Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores?[W:37]

Spartacus FPV · Jun 7, 2014

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Sababa said:
i am sorry you don't understand the idiomatic way I used a common phrase. People on this thread have argued that no one can restrict where they bring their guns when it comes to the business that are open to the public. I don't know why you have to be so nitpicky except maybe you are trying to derail the fact that the pro-gun crowd are so ignorant of how the world works here. But that is okay, I understand people who feel the need to do that.

:roll:

You were wrong and hyperbolical, accept it.

Jerry · Jun 7, 2014

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Sababa said:
i am sorry you don't understand the idiomatic way I used a common phrase. People on this thread have argued that no one can restrict where they bring their guns when it comes to the business that are open to the public. I don't know why you have to be so nitpicky except maybe you are trying to derail the fact that the pro-gun crowd are so ignorant of how the world works here. But that is okay, I understand people who feel the need to do that.

That's some lame trolling.

Sababa · Jun 7, 2014

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Lachean said:
:roll:

You were wrong and hyperbolical, accept it.

No you are just overly sensitive and whiny.

Spartacus FPV · Jun 7, 2014

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Sababa said:
No you are just overly sensitive and whiny.

This name calling makes you even worse.

Jerry said:
That's some lame trolling.

IKR, Translation: Why do you have to insist on pointing out how I was wrong? That not nice! :scared:

Sababa · Jun 7, 2014

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Lachean said:
:roll:

You were wrong and hyperbolical, accept it.

Originally Posted by Lursa
Sometimes people open carry because that's their only option. In some states, it can take up to 18 months and $500 to get a concealed carry permit. (just one example) But OC is allowed without a permit.

Mr.Nick said:
A civil liberty should have no fees or restrictions attached,

This guy said his so-called civil liberty of gun ownership should have no restrictions which could mean he could do what he wants.

so you can apologize for your childish attack please.

Spartacus FPV · Jun 7, 2014

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Sababa said:
This guy said his so-called civil liberty of gun ownership should have no restrictions which could mean he could do what he wants.

so you can apologize for your childish attack please.

1. You resorted to the "childish" personal attacks.
2. The 2A not being infringed upon doesn't = "allows you to do whatever you want with your guns" like MURDER for example, its not a license to kill and that's not what he claimed.

I'll retract NOTHING so long as you resort to such easily disproven absolutes.

Mr.Nick · Jun 7, 2014

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Sababa said:
This guy said his so-called civil liberty of gun ownership should have no restrictions which could mean he could do what he wants.

so you can apologize for your childish attack please.

Guns don't kill people - people kill people.

People have been killing people first evolved to use tools to kill, and a gun in nothing more than a tool.

You can't blame a murder on a gun - otherwise that gun would be in prison and not the man who is ultimately responsible for that act.

I would love to give a history lesson on guns and other weaponry but I don't have the time - however I should when I do have the time and energy to write a blog or a dissertation or even a thesis on this subject... I will say tho - humans are full of emotions and sometimes a knife or a hammer will do the trick as quick as a gun - not to seem morbid - but it is the truth.

If I as wrong prisons would be a safe place.

beer guru · Jun 8, 2014

rocket88 said:
Should Target take action to keep rifles out of their stores? | Today's Question | Minnesota Public Radio News

So there's pressure on Target to restrict gun carrying. Now my own opinion is that open carry like this is more harmful to gun rights.

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How so?

If guns are OK, what else should openly allowed? Should we openly allow gay sex in the frozen foods aisle? You have that right too, right? It's my right to go barefoot, but they won't let me do that.

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your sexual life is not an issue protected by the constitution. As far as bare feet, most stores do it as a liability to avoid lawsuits

beer guru · Jun 8, 2014

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votemout said:
Answer me this one question please.

Had Trayvon saw a gun on zimmermans person, Do you think trayvon still attacks the creepy *** cracka?

Would the Fort Hood or Colorado movie theatre shooters carried out there sick plans if they knew the majority of people were carrying?

rocket88 · Jun 8, 2014

beer guru said:
How so?

It's a dumb political stunt that makes them look like their trying to stir up trouble. It's bound to have a reverse effect.

your sexual life is not an issue protected by the constitution. As far as bare feet, most stores do it as a liability to avoid lawsuits

Aren't guns a liability? My bare feet wouldn't hurt anyone unless I kicked them, and shoes actually make that worse.

rocket88 · Jun 8, 2014

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beer guru said:
Would the Fort Hood or Colorado movie theatre shooters carried out there sick plans if they knew the majority of people were carrying?

Yes, because they were sick. They weren't acting rationally. Would a rational person carry out a one person attack on a military base?

apdst · Jun 8, 2014

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rocket88 said:
Yes, because they were sick. They weren't acting rationally. Would a rational person carry out a one person attack on a military base?

An army post is a gun free zone.

rocket88 · Jun 8, 2014

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apdst said:
An army post is a gun free zone.

Does this guy look unarmed to you?

How about this guy?

Grand Mal · Jun 8, 2014

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Point and laugh. That's how I'd respond if I saw some jackass toting a rifle around in a department store.

apdst · Jun 8, 2014

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rocket88 said:
Does this guy look unarmed to you?

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How about this guy?

Thise are MP's. i.e. police officers. Every other soldier, on main post, is unarmed.

Goshin · Jun 8, 2014

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rocket88 said:
Does this guy look unarmed to you?

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How about this guy?

Those are guards or MPs; everyone else is disarmed. If you attack where there are no MPs or guards, you've got a window of time to slaughter unopposed before they get there.

rocket88 · Jun 8, 2014

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Goshin said:
Those are guards or MPs; everyone else is disarmed. If you attack where there are no MPs or guards, you've got a window of time to slaughter unopposed before they get there.

Yes, but those guards are armed to the teeth. There's nothing "gun free" about it.

Goshin · Jun 8, 2014

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rocket88 said:
Yes, but those guards are armed to the teeth. There's nothing "gun free" about it.

Some malls and whatnot have armed security, but everyone else (staff and guests) are disarmed by policy... if you attack where the armed security is not around, you have the same effect for a certain amount of time.

Soldiers on a US-soil military base are disarmed unless they are on guard duty at an armed post.

Sababa · Jun 8, 2014

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Mr.Nick said:
Guns don't kill people - people kill people.

People have been killing people first evolved to use tools to kill, and a gun in nothing more than a tool.

You can't blame a murder on a gun - otherwise that gun would be in prison and not the man who is ultimately responsible for that act.

I would love to give a history lesson on guns and other weaponry but I don't have the time - however I should when I do have the time and energy to write a blog or a dissertation or even a thesis on this subject... I will say tho - humans are full of emotions and sometimes a knife or a hammer will do the trick as quick as a gun - not to seem morbid - but it is the truth.

If I as wrong prisons would be a safe place.

And none of what you have written here changes that fact that Target can ban guns and the 2nd amendment rights are still intact.

beer guru · Jun 8, 2014

rocket88 said:
It's a dumb political stunt that makes them look like their trying to stir up trouble. It's bound to have a reverse effect.

I mean How is open carry harmful to gun rights

Aren't guns a liability? My bare feet wouldn't hurt anyone unless I kicked them, and shoes actually make that worse.

Not to the store, if some one fires off their personal gun the store is not responsible. As opposed to walking in with no shoes, the store is responsible if you somehow cut your foot on something.

beer guru · Jun 8, 2014

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rocket88 said:
Yes, because they were sick. They weren't acting rationally. Would a rational person carry out a one person attack on a military base?

True, but their intent was not to die other wise they would just have killed them selves like most of the nut jobs. Their intention was to do harm. neither attack would have happened if they knew that most of their intended victims were packing

Jerry · Jun 8, 2014

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rocket88 said:
Yes, because they were sick. They weren't acting rationally. Would a rational person carry out a one person attack on a military base?

Yes, because anger and grievance doesn't have to cloud reason; only give motivation.

To the Fort Hood shooter it was just a mission. The military trains us to commit controled acts of violence.

Jerry · Jun 8, 2014

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rocket88 said:
Yes, but those guards are armed to the teeth. There's nothing "gun free" about it.

We have different ideas of what "armed to the teeth" means. MPs generaly have exactly what civilian cops have: a pistol with a couple mags and maybe a rifle in the patrole car.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...erm-armed-to-the-teeth/articleshow/274090.cms

The term originated in Port Royal Jamaica in the 1600s when pirates were constantly looking for ships to loot and their guns were very primitive. As a result, pirates could shoot only once before a long reloading process. Consequently, they needed to carry a gun in each hand, and also perhaps in each pocket. For extra power, they would also hold a knife between their teeth. So to be 'armed to the teeth' means to carry the maximum number of weapons possible.

Jerry · Jun 8, 2014

rocket88 said:
Aren't guns a liability? My bare feet wouldn't hurt anyone unless I kicked them, and shoes actually make that worse.

Your bear feet catch and spread various fungus.

Mr.Nick · Jun 8, 2014

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Sababa said:
And none of what you have written here changes that fact that Target can ban guns and the 2nd amendment rights are still intact.

I never claimed they couldn't - but if they can ban guns (which is something ironically they sold) they can ban gays if they want.

It's a two-way street here.

Do you really recommend stepping over that line? because it's only asking for trouble.

Let people do what they do and live free until they actually physically hurt someone.

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