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Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

I don't believe these men have any honor. If you've got a problem with someone in your unit then you either deal with them directly, take it up with your commander(s), or keep the hole in your face shut until there's a hearing. Honorable men don't go slithering to the media to launch a vicious assault on a man's patriotism and loyalty, especially when the man you're accusing cannot defend himself. And they certainly should not be whining about performing their duty in searching for him.

They are free Americans with every right to express their views. You just don't like their views. Bergdahl forfeited their respect when he walked away from his duty.:peace
 
They are free Americans with every right to express their views. You just don't like their views. Bergdahl forfeited their respect when he walked away from his duty.:peace

Not only that, but it appears this in charge tried to shut them up and then their commander in chief starts lying to the citizens of the US about this guy.
 
I don't believe these men have any honor. If you've got a problem with someone in your unit then you either deal with them directly, take it up with your commander(s), or keep the hole in your face shut until there's a hearing. Honorable men don't go slithering to the media to launch a vicious assault on a man's patriotism and loyalty, especially when the man you're accusing cannot defend himself. And they certainly should not be whining about performing their duty in searching for him.

They had enough " honor " to put their lives on the line by going out and looking for a known deserter.

Just be honest.

You think these men have " no honor " because by publicly divulging the true nature of Bergdahl's disappearance they're making your President look really bad.

You have no place to question anyone's honor, let alone these Veterans who DID server honorably.

When did the definition of honor change to covering Obama's incompetence at any cost ?

Because thats not honor, that's blind allegiance.
 
You think these men have " no honor " because by publicly divulging the true nature of Bergdahl's disappearance they're making your President look really bad.

The President doesn't look bad.

You have no place to question anyone's honor, let alone these Veterans who DID server honorably.

I don't consider running down children in their vehicles for sport to be serving honorably. They're garbage.
 
No President has ever traded hostages before so what Obama did was illegal. Besides, Bergdahl is a Muslim, so he's not really an American. The last thing we need are more non-Christian immigrants.
 
No President has ever traded hostages before so what Obama did was illegal.

The United States has a very long history of prisoner exchanges. The rest of your post doesn't deserve commenting on.
 
the president doesn't look bad.

i don't consider running down children in their vehicles for sport to be serving honorably. They're garbage.

wtf...??
 

Something Bergdahl recounted in an e-mail to his parents. The entire unit was just a bunch of undisciplined incompetent yahoos. Something made clear years ago by the Pentagon. Perhaps these men are afraid of what else his might say.
 
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Something Bergdahl recounted in an e-mail to his parents. The entire unit was just a bunch of undisciplined incompetent yahoos. Something made clear years ago by the Pentagon. Perhaps these men are afraid of what else his might say.

Have seen/heard some of those fellow unit members. Strike me a competent and levelheaded.



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Bingo. Barry and Moo, too.

The President doesn't look bad.



I don't consider running down children in their vehicles for sport to be serving honorably. They're garbage.

Lol !!

The President ABSOLUTELY looks bad.

First he released 5 Taliban leaders without following the law HE SIGNED.

5 Guys who are going to be returning to their waiting terrorist organization.

He lied about Bergdahl, lied about his health, lied about his service record, lied about everything.

Ofcourse they're "garbage" to you. ( Lol...they ran down children ? )

If you're going to make stuff up why show up here ? We're all adults, and its the least YOU can do to act like one.

Like I said, they ruined your Presidents "success story " of freeing a US veteran.

This was a HUGE Fail by the Obama administration.

And WE warned you people back in 2008. There are real consequences to electing a incompetent.

But you people equated plattitudes and bumper sticker slogans to Presidential qualifications.
 
Have seen/heard some of those fellow unit members. Strike me a competent and levelheaded.

i think this was just the tip of the iceberg. Some highlights:

The discipline problems that had plagued Bowe's unit back home only got worse when immersed in the fog of war. From the start, everything seemed to go wrong. In April, Lt. Fancey was removed from his post for clashing with a superior officer. He was replaced by Sgt. 1st Class Larry Hein, who had never held such a command – a move that left the remote outpost with no officers. According to four soldiers in the battalion, the removal of Fancey was quickly followed by a collapse in unit morale and an almost complete breakdown of authority.

The unruly situation was captured by Sean Smith, a British documentary filmmaker with The Guardian who spent a month embedded with Bowe's unit. His footage shows a bunch of soldiers who no longer give a ****: breaking even the most basic rules of combat, like wearing baseball caps on patrol instead of helmets...

In early June, after photographs taken by Sean Smith appeared in The Guardian, Bowe's unit got reamed out by its commander for its lack of discipline. Bowe's squad leader, Sgt. Greg Leatherman, was demoted, and two other sergeants in the squad were reassigned. According to Fancey, one was made "a gate guard for the rest of the deployment."

The unit, for its part, continued to bungle even the most basic aspects of military duty. During the last week of June, the platoon spent a day resupplying at Forward Operating Base Sharana. When someone in the unit lost his weapon, everyone in the platoon had to drop what they were doing and look for it.
 
Lol !!

The President ABSOLUTELY looks bad.

First he released 5 Taliban leaders without following the law HE SIGNED.

5 Guys who are going to be returning to their waiting terrorist organization.

He lied about Bergdahl, lied about his health, lied about his service record, lied about everything.

Ofcourse they're "garbage" to you. ( Lol...they ran down children ? )

If you're going to make stuff up why show up here ? We're all adults, and its the least YOU can do to act like one.

Like I said, they ruined your Presidents "success story " of freeing a US veteran.

This was a HUGE Fail by the Obama administration.

And WE warned you people back in 2008. There are real consequences to electing a incompetent.

But you people equated plattitudes and bumper sticker slogans to Presidential qualifications.

Very well said.
 
Something Bergdahl recounted in an e-mail to his parents. The entire unit was just a bunch of undisciplined incompetent yahoos. Something made clear years ago by the Pentagon. Perhaps these men are afraid of what else his might say.

Once again smearing the troops.:roll:
 
I'm just pointing out the facts. ;)

The 8 Stupidest Arguments Being Made - Mollie Hemingway, The Federalist

[h=2]3) The motives of Bergdahl’s fellow infantry are suspect[/h] Perhaps the single biggest reason the White House spin on the Bergdahl trade didn’t hold up was because almost immediately people who knew him in Afghanistan started talking about what they knew about his disappearance. While these details had been kept under wraps via a non-disclosure agreement, the rush to paint him as a homecoming hero was too much for many of them. Whether they viewed the non-disclosure agreement as no longer operationally important, or because they hadn’t signed one to begin with, some even started appearing on national news to give their side of the story.
The first attempt to fight this was to do something very unusual — talk about a public relations firm that had helped coordinate such appearances. Now, the fact of the matter is that public relations firms coordinate pretty much everything you see on television. But usually you don’t hear about it. Did the New York Times report, when it covered birth control activist Sandra Fluke, that she was represented by the firm of former White House communications director Anita Dunn? Of course not. How much coverage was given the fact that Texas State Senator Wendy Davis’ late-term abortion filibuster was a public relations campaign? I think I saw one blog item.
What about the award-winning public relations campaign Planned Parenthood planned against the Komen Foundation? Not only were Planned Parenthood’s public relations firms not mentioned in stories about the campaign, the media actually was blatantly one-sided in which group it supported and which group it condemned in the contest between a breast health charity and the country’s largest abortion provider.
I could go on. But only in this case did we learn about this fact behind most major news stories. That attempt to discredit soldiers didn’t work, though, so White House aides told NBC’s Chuck Todd that they didn’t expect soldiers to “swift boat” Bergdahl. That was a reference to what happened when John Kerry ran for president by emphasizing his military service. The only problem was that those “swift boat” veterans who served with him had a different view. Democrats believed these attacks on John Kerry were unfair. An Obama administration official tweeted out his thoughts about the matter this week:
Just … no. Speculating that the men who did not desert were “psychopaths” is just idiotic. Particularly since even if Bergdahl had problems with soldiers or leadership, that wouldn’t make him even remotely unique in the Army. What did make his situation unique was that he didn’t work through approved channels for resolving those issues without putting people in danger.
And now the New York Times is trying to make the claim that Bergdahl’s unit was “as much to blame” for his disappearance as he was. Sigh.
 
They're facts which have been widely known for years, but people like you wish to bury in a mad attempt to go after the President.

On the contrary, I think the POTUS is nearly irrelevant to this issue. I don't care about that aspect of the question. All the politicization of the question has come from the WH and its minions.:peace
 
The United States has a very long history of prisoner exchanges. The rest of your post doesn't deserve commenting on.

Yeah, but was a Muslim in the White House?
 
Right. So let's drill here. Drill now. And leave the Middle East. Agreed?

Um, we already are. We're pumping out more oil than ever before, thanks to fracking (and the swarms of (relatively minor) earthquakes that come with it).

Thing is, the way the global oil markets are structured, NONE - repeat, NONE - of that oil we're pumping out is reserved for American use. ALL of it is considered 'fungible' - it's put on the global market, and so we bid on and buy what's cheapest on the market, without any concern of where it came from.

Which is why "drill baby drill" was so silly - it Does Not Matter how much we drill, because it's ALL on the global market, and because of this, we will never, ever (as long as the wealthiest industry in human history survives) be "energy independent" as long as we depend on oil.

Never. It's flatly impossible, because we have to buy from the global market, and not from the oil we're drilling on our own land...even though we're currently producing more oil than we're using.
 
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