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Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held in Afghanistan, freed in swap

Perotista said:
Cute, this is what I love about DP, the same people will jump on and condemn the president saying he can do nothing wrong no matter what he does and it is the same people what will be defending him to the hilt saying he can do no wrong no matter what he does.
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I think our president could have done lots better and is generally a disappointment, but that is irrelevant to the fact that this is an issue that will be exploited no matter what course he chooses
 
Slovik was charged with desertion to avoid hazardous duty and tried by court martial on 11 November 1944. Slovik had to be tried by a court martial composed of staff officers from other U.S. Army divisions, because all combat officers from the 28th Infantry Division were fighting on the front lines.[2] The prosecutor, Captain John Green, presented witnesses to whom Slovik had stated his intention to "run away".

Eddy Slovik also chose to run away. As a result he was executed. We now have another "run away".
What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
 
mtm1963 said:
your question a red herring and you know it.
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The avoidance of the topic is both noted and pathetically transparent.

At this point enough people that were 'there' have spoken out, even some afgani's … it is pretty clear the guy deserted the Army. Period.

That some wish to ignore this reality in order to keep supporting a president that doesn't follow the very laws he signs, is also very much pathetically transparent.
 
Perotista said:
Cute, this is what I love about DP, the same people will jump on and condemn the president saying he can do nothing wrong no matter what he does and it is the same people what will be defending him to the hilt saying he can do no wrong no matter what he does.
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The problem with your theory is that 'the right' hasn't been on Obama's back for the past 5 years to do something to get this guy back. Not at all. Which kinda proves your theory to be nothing other than partisan BS.
 
How many American POWs are there today?
That number is something that must be figured into the equation.
 
mac said:
He did not do the right thing. First of all, the war is not over. Second, Berghdal renounced his citizenship and deserted, third, Obama broke the law in doing it.

There is no "right thing" in any of it.
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And if you cannot prove that Bergdahl renounced his citizenship but are just making it up...what does that make you?

PROVE that Bergdahl renounced his citizenship!
 
Perotista said:
As to why Bush negotiated with them, I suppose it was because the Taliban were the ones providing sanctuary to AQ, I don’t know you would have to ask him.

We left 80-100 deserters in Vietnam after the fall of Saigon and no one every question it. I suppose it was because this nation just wanted to wash its hands of Vietnam.

Well, I tried to explain why some people here think we gave up way to much, I suppose I have failed. I remember a John McCain sitting in Hanoi Hilton, his father was CINCPAC at the time. The North Vietnamese offered to release him, but John and his father refused, stating those captured before him need to be released first.

Anyway, take care, I will not try to explain things again.
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Here's the story of the last POW to come home from Vietnam. He was apparently a deserter, and may have been a traitor too. But we brought him home anyway...and charges were promptly filed against him by the Corps. The rest of the story - including about the results of his trial, his dishonorable discharge, and the indication that he may have been telling the truth about seeing other POW's in Vietnam - are here.
 
tacomancer said:
I think our president could have done lots better and is generally a disappointment, but that is irrelevant to the fact that this is an issue that will be exploited no matter what course he chooses
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I think this is true for the die hard core of each side, exploit on one side and defend to the max on the other regardless of what you/I/them think about the issue or situation personally. It seems these die hard partisans wait until either the president or their party makes up their mind where they stand on any particular issue and then adopt it, that is exactly where they stand on it. Free thinkers or those who make up their minds issue by issue are not allowed.
 
Arbo said:
The problem with your theory is that 'the right' hasn't been on Obama's back for the past 5 years to do something to get this guy back. Not at all. Which kinda proves your theory to be nothing other than partisan BS.
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Okay, and which side of the fence do you think I stand on?
 
Blue_State said:
He is a soldier, an American soldier. It doesn't matter if he made a mistake. We should not leave his punishment or capture up to the Taliban. Get him back. Deal with everything else after he is back in us control.
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He wasnt "captured" he actilvely deserted
 
Travis007 said:
He wasnt "captured" he actilvely deserted
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He is still on the US Army rolls. As with any deserter, we get them and try them. He will have his day in court.

From what I understand, he was not free to leave where he was in the last 5 years. Incarcerated vs. captured?
 
Blue_State said:
He is still on the US Army rolls. As with any deserter, we get them and try them. He will have his day in court.

From what I understand, he was not free to leave where he was in the last 5 years. Incarcerated vs. captured?
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he was a pawn of Code Pink.. his father got what he wanted which was the release of these savages..

He should be executed upon stepping foot back in the USA
 
Travis007 said:
he was a pawn of Code Pink.. his father got what he wanted which was the release of these savages..

He should be executed upon stepping foot back in the USA
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The military will do their due diligence. I am sure they will look at the evidence and hand out an appropriate punishment if needed.

He is a soldier, his actions will be judged.
 
Blue_State said:
The military will do their due diligence. I am sure they will look at the evidence and hand out an appropriate punishment if needed.

He is a soldier, his actions will be judged.
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The military ALREADY did their investigation...

the found him to be a deserter.. and not worthy of risking more lives over..
 
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Glen Contrarian said:
Here's the story of the last POW to come home from Vietnam. He was apparently a deserter, and may have been a traitor too. But we brought him home anyway...and charges were promptly filed against him by the Corps. The rest of the story - including about the results of his trial, his dishonorable discharge, and the indication that he may have been telling the truth about seeing other POW's in Vietnam - are here.
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Ask Senator McCain how he feels now about taking extra beatings in Vietnam, when they were ready to let him go; but he wasn't leaving till his men were freed. And then this! Obama trades five bars of gold for a bar of lead.
 
Travis007 said:
The military ALREADY did their investigation...

the found him to be a deserter.. and not worhty of resking more lives over..
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And now he will have a court-martial. People will weigh the evidence and make an informed decision. The will make an informed decision about a uniformed military member. He is still a US soldier.
 
American said:
Ask Senator McCain how he feels now about taking extra beatings in Vietnam, when they were ready to let him go; but he wasn't leaving till his men were freed. And then this! Obama trades five bars of gold for a bar of lead.
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I don't think people give McCain enough credence for his stellar leadership as a POW. The man is a hero for his actions.
 
Blue_State said:
And now he will have a court-martial. People will weigh the evidence and make an informed decision. The will make an informed decision about a uniformed military member. He is still a US soldier.
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You do know that our troops were told to shoot him upon finding him..that they considered him taliban from radio intercepts
 
Travis007 said:
You do know that our troops were told to shoot him upon finding him..that they considered him taliban from radio intercepts
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A soldier said that. I would be interested in the leadership coming forward and admitting that. If he was considered a combatant he would have been dropped from rolls.
 
Blue_State said:
A soldier said that. I would be interested in the leadership coming forward and admitting that. If he was considered a combatant he would have been dropped from rolls.
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he was.. again.. they knew where he was.. they chose to not get him or find him and shoot him..
 
This is Obama and Code Pink orchestrated .. a tragedy for the USA


IMPEACH NOW
 
Travis007 said:
he was.. again.. they knew where he was.. they chose to not get him or find him and shoot him..
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If they knew where he was, why did the unit go searching for him? He was not dropped from rolls. He is therefore a US Soldier. Therefore, he is subject to UCMJ.
 
Blue_State said:
If they knew where he was, why did the unit go searching for him? He was not dropped from rolls. He is therefore a US Soldier. Therefore, he is subject to UCMJ.
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because they found out he was Taliban.. and not worthy of saving..
 
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