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US soldier freed from captivity in Afghanistan

and you're so influenced by the conservative entertainment media that you're actually pissed off about a POW being released after five ****ing years in captivity?

seriously. i mean, i understand that it's possible to hate a president that much, but seeing it in the wild is still stunning every time. this guy is not the president. he is a POW. what is Fox saying about him?

never mind, i just went and looked. Fox cleverly inserted the "desertion" angle, just as i expected. and turned off comments for the article. i wonder why.

Hey, you know as well as I do that it is verboten on the Right to agree with anything at all that Obama says, does, or supports. I mean, the First Lady even just recommended that people drink more water, and the right wing went nuts.

The Right of today is nothing like what it used to be when I was a strong conservative - they've gone off the rails.
 
So what he got discharged after 5 months. Point being?

What the heck are you talking about him being discharged. How was he still in the Army and deployed if he was discharged.
Also you still haven't said what he did that is so awesome.
 
What will the concequences be if Qatar cuts them lose?

Qatar would risk its security alliance with the U.S. For the U.S., the five individuals would have practically no meaningful battlefield consequences.
 
So if we say that his time in captivity was punishment enough, that could be true. It could also not be true if it is found that he was a Taliban appologist. If it is found that the reason he was in captivity for 5 years is because he partially agreed with their cause and as a result, never tried really hard to escape. Punishment for most citizens and soldiers who break the law is to go somewhere you don't want to be and dont have a choice weather to be there or not. Maybe his 5 years was not much a punishment. Even if it was was... Do you see the President of the United States greeting everyone and congradulating them on surviving their prison sentence? Its absurd!

I understand and accept that Helix's rule states that given enough time and participation, a thread about a peanut butter and jelly sandwich will turn into a flame war, but this is even more stunning.

A POW has been released after five years in captivity, and the right is pissed off about it? Seriously?

Five years, man.

Five ****ing years.
 
Hey, you know as well as I do that it is verboten on the Right to agree with anything at all that Obama says, does, or supports. I mean, the First Lady even just recommended that people drink more water, and the right wing went nuts.

The Right of today is nothing like what it used to be when I was a strong conservative - they've gone off the rails.

I get so tired of this back and forth bologna from both sides. This happened during the Bush admin, the Clinton Admin, EVERY ADMIN... Its called politics. Its ugly, its stupid, and both sides are ugly and stupid. So to fight back and forth about who is worse, is a waste of time because both sides do it. Do I really have to remind you of the Bush years and all the trivial attacks that occurred during his Presidency. Or all the money spent to find out that Clinton got a BJ in the oval office. This is rife on both sides in our political system and people like you simply allow it to propagate. *RANT OFF*

Anyway, back on topic..
 
I understand and accept that Helix's rule states that given enough time and participation, a thread about a peanut butter and jelly sandwich will turn into a flame war, but this is even more stunning.

A POW has been released after five years in captivity, and the right is pissed off about it? Seriously?

Five years, man.

Five ****ing years.

There is doubt that he was a POW. A POW and a someone who defects are not the same thing.
 
Hey, you know as well as I do that it is verboten on the Right to agree with anything at all that Obama says, does, or supports. I mean, the First Lady even just recommended that people drink more water, and the right wing went nuts.

The Right of today is nothing like what it used to be when I was a strong conservative - they've gone off the rails.

I was a Republican, and then a libertarian as recently as 2007, and I don't even recognize this ****. This approaches the level of hyperpartisan nonsense that the left achieved with its ****ty Bush snuff film. And that idiot Olbermann calling on him to resign every single night. In a way, this is worse.
 
There is doubt that he was a POW. A POW and a someone who defects are not the same thing.

Really think about what you're doing here, and why you're doing it, dude. Seriously.
 
I am still very hesitant to give any well wishes to this soldier without knowing if he had purposely went AWOL and endagered the safety of his unit by having to look for him. If he did leave willfully, and we let 5 enemy prisoners back out into the world, it would be even worse. So I do not share the media's warm welcome as blindly as they do.
I want a few questions to be asked and answered first.




It's a good bet that this guy will be asked a lot of questions.

Whether anyone will get any good answers is another story.
 
Really think about what you're doing here, and why you're doing it, dude. Seriously.

I am not sure what you are refering too... could you please elaborate.
 
I was a Republican, and then a libertarian as recently as 2007, and I don't even recognize this ****. This approaches the level of hyperpartisan nonsense that the left achieved with its ****ty Bush snuff film. And that idiot Olbermann calling on him to resign every single night. In a way, this is worse.

So what you are saying, is you refuse to look deeper than 'he was a POW'. That nothing else matters.

And you refuse to address that this guy was put down as a deserter 2 years ago, but continue to blame Fox for 'making it up'?

LOL.. a republican then a libertarian… now that's funny.
 
It's a good bet that this guy will be asked a lot of questions.

Whether anyone will get any good answers is another story.



There are ways to investigate the validity of his answers and judgement can be made to some degree weather or not his actions are worth the acclaim he is receiving in the media.
 
I am not sure what you are refering too... could you please elaborate.

You are not agreeing with him, so you are part of the right wing conspiracy. Or some such thing like that, we'd have to ask Hillary about it to be sure. ;)
 
There are ways to investigate the validity of his answers and judgement can be made to some degree weather or not his actions are worth the acclaim he is receiving in the media.




They could investigate from now until the end of time and never learn a thing.

It has happened many times.
 
Qatar would risk its security alliance with the U.S. For the U.S., the five individuals would have practically no meaningful battlefield consequences.

Obama isn't going to punish Qatar for releasing these dudes; Qatar knows it.
 
I am not sure what you are refering too... could you please elaborate.

are you one of the ones who is pissed off about a POW being released because of partisan reasons? it's hard to keep it straight. pissed off hyperpartisans are coming at me from all sides because i'm happy that he's coming home.

and even though i understand that hyperpartisanism is a thing, i am just flat out stunned.

here was my initial comment :

Helix said:
this is a good thing. i can't imagine what he went through. i'm very glad that he is being released.

THIS ACTUALLY LED TO A PARTISAN FISTFIGHT. ARE YOU ****ING KIDDING ME?
 
Obama isn't going to punish Qatar for releasing these dudes; Qatar knows it.




The USA needs Qatar just as much as Qatar needs the USA and Qatar knows that.
 
So what you are saying, is you refuse to look deeper than 'he was a POW'. That nothing else matters.

And you refuse to address that this guy was put down as a deserter 2 years ago, but continue to blame Fox for 'making it up'?

LOL.. a republican then a libertarian… now that's funny.

what i'm saying is this :

i'm happy that a POW is finally coming home after five ****ing years in captivity, and i'm disgusted that the right is making this political because they hate them some Obama.

this dude gets released under Romney? no ****ing way fox and the right would have taken this angle. this thread would read as follows :

Obama had four ****ing years to get this guy out, and Romney gets it done in five ****ing months.

seriously.

a POW has been released. this is a good thing.
 
And I didnt even know about his circumstances of his getting captured or US law prohibiting release of our captives. His alleged actions should not have stopped us from rescuing him, but thats a solid rule which we should never violate. Never negotiate with terrorists.

Yes. It is inexcusable and Obama should abdicate.

He won't, of course.....
 
You are so full of partisan BS. 'The right' didn't make this political. It has been 'put out' for a long time this guy was nothing other than a deserter, his own parents gave the media emails he wrote just before he 'disappeared' where the stated he was ashamed of America. And given the history of government in general, the motivation must always be questioned, it doesn't matter if it is Obama or Romney or the damn Easter Bunny.

We know that our general policy is not negotiating with terrorists, so when 5 of them are let go for one guy, motivation needs to be questioned. When it is found out the guy that was missing might well be a deserter from the military… well that adds to the need to get the details and truth out.

So to go back to my questions you responded to, it seems yes, you refuse to look deeper than 'he was a POW', and when you came out suggesting fox was making stuff up and it was shown this 'info' was out years ago, not by fox, you refuse to admit your partisan attack on them was incorrect. Thanks.

BTW, you have no idea what he went through… was he really a POW, or was he sympathetic and worked out with is 'captors' that he would stay with them to help fight against the horrible Americans that even he detested? Could be either, but more information is needed, and journalists need to do their job and dig. But it appears you are unwilling to accept that he was anything but an upstanding American that was proud of his country fighting the 'bad guys' and was a POW that went through horrible mistreatment.
 
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are you one of the ones who is pissed off about a POW being released because of partisan reasons? it's hard to keep it straight. pissed off hyperpartisans are coming at me from all sides because i'm happy that he's coming home.

and even though i understand that hyperpartisanism is a thing, i am just flat out stunned.

here was my initial comment :

No, and I am not aware what you are even talking about. I am simply making the point that before we lay out a warm welcome mat, we better make sure we are not condoning dissent to manifest itself within the ranks by saying its ok to go AWOL and take refuge with the enemy.
 
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