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White House Contacted Youtube DURING Benghazi Attack.[W:324]

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If it comes without the X-Files conspiracy "other website" dope you keep asking for? While you run run run away from anything approaching rational discourse and virtually every question put to you? What can I say but the obvious? OK.:mrgreen:

since you cannot provide evidence that you demanded similar scrutiny for any of the attacks between 2001 and 2009, i will not discuss Benghazi with you. however, i did enjoy the Deadwood and X Files references.

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since you cannot provide evidence that you demanded similar scrutiny for any of the attacks between 2001 and 2009, i will not discuss Benghazi with you. however, i did enjoy the Deadwood and X Files references.

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Well at least now we know the source of your rather embarrassing paranoia wherein I stalked you from either five to thirteen years ago across the interwebz to DP came from! An early season episode of the X-Files, a series that floundered in its own conspiratorial fiction to the point it squandered its audience and diluted its own brand. You sure you did not want to reference "The Lone Gunmen" instead? Which enjoyed an even less illustrious flight in the annals of lunacy and horrid fictional writing than the source it sprang foaming at the mouth from?
 
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Well at least now we know the source of your rather embarrassing paranoia wherein I stalked you from either five to thirteen years ago across the interwebz to DP came from! An early season episode of the X-Files, a series that floundered in its own conspiratorial fiction to the point it squandered its audience and diluted its own brand. You sure you did not want to reference "The Lone Gunmen" instead? Which enjoyed an even less illustrious flight in the annals of lunacy and horrid fictional writing than the source it sprang foaming at the mouth from?

yeah, when they started making every episode about space aliens coverups / conspiracies, i lost interest.

Deadwood, though; it really sucked when they cut that one off early. resisting the urge to post a Swearengen video, as i might have to infract myself.
 
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yeah, when they started making every episode about space aliens coverups / conspiracies, i lost interest.

Deadwood, though; it really sucked when they cut that one off early. resisting the urge to post a Swearengen video, as i might have to infract myself.
Given the hovering of hall monitors who magically assembled for about twenty minutes, earlier? I'm thinking a real "Deadwood" style X-Files CYA event occurred off screen too. Maybe I should have exercised that option I pondered about before, but it seems maybe someone realized they needed to cut me off at the pass and sent word along the trail just in case I did. Real wagon circling, western speaking of course. Meanwhile back at the ranch, amazingly you are still unable to address a single question put to you as you pitch a fit that your questions are not only answered but called out as the empty posturings they are. Imagine that. Quick now, better go get the rest of the posse to review your hanging!
 
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What I've been disappointed to observe is that Obama has been consistently crap in communicating to the public in the aftermath of just about any crisis. He just...seizes up.

So, again I ask, the aftermath communication is all you have a problem with?
 
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And that is what is so frightening about the socialist hordes who back this guy....

They do not realize that by aiding and abetting this and every other White House concocted problem, they are placing the country in peril; each new president will look at what Obama has accomplished in deception, and consider that the new standard.

I think many of them DO know that he is being destructive. The trouble is they wanted a wholesale change of the US to begin with so toppling what is already there is a plus for them.
 
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thanks. i do have some hopes that the average non-hyperpartisan will get sick of hyperpartisan nonsense like i have.

anyway, no one has linked me to any thread anywhere on line in which they demanded an investigation of an embassy attack between 2001 and 2009, so i suppose there's nothing to do here. have a good one.

But then again....none of the other embassy attacks involved a white house coverup and two weeks of telling an outright lie to the American people. I do not like hyperpartisanship either, however I see red when my government lies and covers up incompetence.
 
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And that is what is so frightening about the socialist hordes who back this guy....

They do not realize that by aiding and abetting this and every other White House concocted problem, they are placing the country in peril; each new president will look at what Obama has accomplished in deception, and consider that the new standard.

Clinton deliberately devalued the legal debate into one of tawdry suck jobs and seamen stained clothes; I for one can no longer think of the Oval Office as a place of honor and integrity, but of cheap, low life animal urges. But that, the spin of that narrow point enabled him to not get kicked out of office, an amazing accomplishment next to the likes of Theodore Roosevelt, FDR or Ronald Reagan.

But it stands, it cannot be removed this stain on the corridors of power and the way Clinton evaded the issue and escaped is now what Obama plays on every single issue; the dumbing down, over simplification reductivism that ranges from "So, you hate Obama and want people to die..." for finding fault with the ACA, to demanding enough evidence to impeach to justify an investigation at all.

It is the new reality where "it depends on what your definition of is, is" replaces integrity; even the foul, lying Harry S. Truman said "the buck stops here" which under Obama has come to mean "the buck gets passed FROM here..."

Agreed. I find it sickening that the Obama administrations response to being caught in scandals is to just stonewall and lie, then hope the scandal runs it's course into "old news".
 
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what i'm untilis that my opinion is that the vast majority of Republicans who are pushing the Benghazi story are doing so for political reasons. because of this, i won't spend much time with any andwho can't show me that he or she supported serious inquiries into the embassy attacks which occurred during the Bush administration.

Name another embassy attack that involved a white house cover up and two weeks of lying to the American people and I will jump on board and demand an investigation. Let's face it.....you can gripe about republican political gain until hell freezes over...and it does not matter. The Obama administration screwed the pooch in Benghazi and covered it up to protect the president's chances at re-election....and they got caught. It's that simple. Every white house scandal benefits the party out of power. That is just a fact of political life.
 
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Fair enough. Would it be safe to say since you spent time in Africa, where Benghazi is, and in Europe, where some possible response to Benghazi would be based-that you might have more insight into this than the forums lefties who get their news from The Daily Show?

The locations would matter to some extent, but more important would be the experience in dealing with situations and the relevant organizations. That said, I prefer not to beat people over the head with my experience unless the common sense line gets crossed.:peace
 
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LOL. There are no charges, no impeachment and nothing has been found that is worthy of either. There is no "hot water" except for the idiots that are running this side show. That loon Issa makes even Cruze seem intelligent. These hearings should be a real hoot.

Demonizing and name calling the opposition just makes you look partisan and small. I have seen at least one liberal on this board who agrees that the white house has been stonewalling and lying in regards to Benghazi. The truth is that you are afraid of the inquiries still looming as the 2014 campaign season heats up.
 
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Agreed. I find it sickening that the Obama administrations response to being caught in scandals is to just stonewall and lie, then hope the scandal runs it's course into "old news".

I find it surprising actually. In all my early assessments of him, which turned out pretty accurate, I did not think he would be so crass....Nixon crass, the very thing that brought Dick down was not that he authorized a second rate burglary, hell many Americans thought that was ace. It was not lying about it, but taking the masses for granted to the degree he thought he could just lie his way out of it, erase the tape himself.

The final for me was the trip to Boston, Romney land, to claim "I never said that, what I said was you can keep your plan if the insurance companies don't take it away' only to find out he knew people would be hurt at least ten months before, and long before his ad men created "If you like your plan...."

That just said "I think everyone is stupid enough to believe this...."
 
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So, again I ask, the aftermath communication is all you have a problem with?

So...what, admitting outright that Obama was a crap communicator in the aftermath of the attack doesn't even earn me a sarcastic clap?
 
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So...what, admitting outright that Obama was a crap communicator in the aftermath of the attack doesn't even earn me a sarcastic clap?

Is 'crap communicator' a euphemism for 'liar'? If so, you nailed it!
 
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So...what, admitting outright that Obama was a crap communicator in the aftermath of the attack doesn't even earn me a sarcastic clap?

That's cold man....People died, including an ambassador. And you couldn't care any less about that. But I am confident if this were a republican president that was in office your tune would be so different, probably by 180 degrees....
 
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That's cold man....People died, including an ambassador. And you couldn't care any less about that. But I am confident if this were a republican president that was in office your tune would be so different, probably by 180 degrees....

Is that the best you got? I already learned in this thread that I personally allowed the assassination of the ambassador. Surely you can top that? Telling me that I don't care about their deaths is so 2013.
 
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I find it surprising actually. In all my early assessments of him, which turned out pretty accurate, I did not think he would be so crass....Nixon crass, the very thing that brought Dick down was not that he authorized a second rate burglary, hell many Americans thought that was ace. It was not lying about it, but taking the masses for granted to the degree he thought he could just lie his way out of it, erase the tape himself.

Yes.....if it were just a Watergate burglary alone, Nixon would have survived politically. Obstruction of justice and arrogance took him down. And Clinton would have suffered little more then embarrassment if he had not committed perjury in his attempt to cover up the Lewinsky scandal.


The final for me was the trip to Boston, Romney land, to claim "I never said that, what I said was you can keep your plan if the insurance companies don't take it away' only to find out he knew people would be hurt at least ten months before, and long before his ad men created "If you like your plan...."

Yes....that was arrogance at an insane level. Obama assumed that all Americans are stupid and would not remember what he was actually taped saying at least 29 times.
 
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Yes.....if it were just a Watergate burglary alone, Nixon would have survived politically. Obstruction of justice and arrogance took him down. And Clinton would have suffered little more then embarrassment if he had not committed perjury in his attempt to cover up the Lewinsky scandal. Yes....that was arrogance at an insane level. Obama assumed that all Americans are stupid and would not remember what he was actually taped saying at least 29 times.
It seems that Romney didn't campaign hard enough because he overestimated the intelligence of the American electorate assuming, incorrectly of course, that few would be foolish enough to elect Barrack Obama twice.
 
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Yes.....if it were just a Watergate burglary alone, Nixon would have survived politically. Obstruction of justice and arrogance took him down. And Clinton would have suffered little more then embarrassment if he had not committed perjury in his attempt to cover up the Lewinsky scandal.


Yes....that was arrogance at an insane level. Obama assumed that all Americans are stupid and would not remember what he was actually taped saying at least 29 times.

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40 times. MSNBC had it before he made it back aboard Air Force One.....
 
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Name another embassy attack that involved a white house cover up and two weeks of lying to the American people and I will jump on board and demand an investigation. Let's face it.....you can gripe about republican political gain until hell freezes over...and it does not matter. The Obama administration screwed the pooch in Benghazi and covered it up to protect the president's chances at re-election....and they got caught. It's that simple. Every white house scandal benefits the party out of power. That is just a fact of political life.
Well you have to remember that unless you can point this poster to an embassy attack you questioned the investigation and out come of from five to thirteen years ago? He won't deign to spend time with you and will spend even less time than that answering straight forward questions. He can't name an attack with the circumstances that surround it that has similarity to the Benghazi attack. Nor can he name a single embassy attack that has occurred that he thinks was not fully investigated that he questions. Much less that you should. As his logic goes, if you can't locate a thread from here or nebulous other websites dating back to that time period? To show him here at this website today? You must have stalked this guy from some other website to this one! Or something irrational and paranoid like that. As best I can make out. It get more than a little weird. So good luck with all that.:doh
 
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It seems that Romney didn't campaign hard enough because he overestimated the intelligence of the American electorate assuming, incorrectly of course, that few would be foolish enough to elect Barrack Obama twice.

He also could not follow through when he had Obama on the ropes after the first debate. He backed off going into the second debate.
 
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Well you have to remember that unless you can point this poster to an embassy attack you questioned the investigation and out come of from five to thirteen years ago? He won't deign to spend time with you and will spend even less time than that answering straight forward questions. He can't name an attack with the circumstances that surround it that has similarity to the Benghazi attack. Nor can he name a single embassy attack that has occurred that he thinks was not fully investigated that he questions. Much less that you should. As his logic goes, if you can't locate a thread from here or nebulous other websites dating back to that time period? To show him here at this website today? You must have stalked this guy from some other website to this one! Or something irrational and paranoid like that. As best I can make out. It get more than a little weird. So good luck with all that.:doh

My disappointment is that he seems more concerned ,whether or not the republicans are gaining politically from the scandal then getting to the bottom of it. The Benghazi attack is the most recent attack on a US embassy or consulate and four Americans including our ambassador died. At this point I could care less about the other 13 attacks he mentioned. I just want to get to the bottom of it and then let the chips fall where they may.
 
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What political gain can there be in an inquiry regarding what happened in Benghazi unless one party was systemically lying throughout the entire affair. Otherwise it will probably backfire on the Republicans, correct? In the meanwhile an inquiry needs to be held in order to discover what happened, what went wrong, and to ensure it never happens again.

But Issa's not making inquires in an effort to "get to the root of the problem"; he's not even looking for truth. He's on a witch hunt and he won't stop until he and his party gets their version of Iran/Contra for a Democratic president. Look at the facts:

- Fast and Furious: 1 under cover DEA agent killed and nothing really came of the ensuring hearing/investigation.

- IRS non-profit/SuperPAC controversy: At least two hearings, but in the end nothing concrete found there either.

- Benghazi attack: 4 Americans killed and the best the so-called investigators have come up with to date is "cover-up over talking points". No "they knew the attack was coming and did nothing to stop it". No "there was a secret mission involving Ambassador Stevens that went horribly wrong". No! Issa doesn't focus on those things. Instead, he's hell bent on trying to prove a cover-up over a narrative which ultimately was changed to address a terrorist attack.

The reason Issa won't let this issue go isn't because he believes the Obama Administration decided on a specific narrative once they learned of the attack or that talking points were changed or some argument over who changed them. None of that really matters. What Issa and the Republican Party is after is something concrete to nail Hillary Clinton to the wall ahead of the 2016 presidential elections. And the longer he can keep Benghazi in the public consciousness, the more he/they believe Hillary can be discredited.
 
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He also could not follow through when he had Obama on the ropes after the first debate. He backed off going into the second debate.

Right. After trouncing Obama the first time he seemed to want to take the high road, be a gentleman, and all of that. The press and the left interpreted it quite differently.
 
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But Issa's not making inquires in an effort to "get to the root of the problem"; he's not even looking for truth. He's on a witch hunt and he won't stop until he and his party gets their version of Iran/Contra for a Democratic president.
That's your interpretation bt if you are right then this wil certainly come out in the inquiry.

- Fast and Furious: 1 under cover DEA agent killed and nothing really came of the ensuring hearing/investigation.

- IRS non-profit/SuperPAC controversy: At least two hearings, but in the end nothing concrete found there either.

- Benghazi attack: 4 Americans killed and the best the so-called investigators have come up with to date is "cover-up over talking points". No "they knew the attack was coming and did nothing to stop it". No "there was a secret mission involving Ambassador Stevens that went horribly wrong". No! Issa doesn't focus on those things. Instead, he's hell bent on trying to prove a cover-up over a narrative which ultimately was changed to address a terrorist attack.

The reason Issa won't let this issue go isn't because he believes the Obama Administration decided on a specific narrative once they learned of the attack or that talking points were changed or some argument over who changed them. None of that really matters. What Issa and the Republican Party is after is something concrete to nail Hillary Clinton to the wall ahead of the 2016 presidential elections. And the longer he can keep Benghazi in the public consciousness, the more he/they believe Hillary can be discredited.

When a federal employee pleads the fifth during an IRS investigation there is obviously a smoking gun somewhere. And the fact that Eric Holder is a party man first is why these investigations lead nowhere. All information which an inquiry needs is being held up for no good reason at all.
 
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