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Obama on VA allegations: 'I will not stand for it'

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Obama on VA allegations: 'I will not stand for it' - CNN.com

"I will not stand for it," President Barack Obama said Wednesday when it comes to allegations of misconduct at VA hospitals. Obama said he understands the public wants a "swift reckoning" in the Department of Veterans Affairs scandal, but he asked for time to allow the investigation into allegations of cooked books to run its course.

Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki is committed to solving the department's problems, Obama added, but it has been made clear to him that there will be accountability throughout the VA system.

Under criticism for failing to act on a growing controversy, President Barack Obama met Wednesday with Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki about the controversy over cooked books that covered up deadly delays for veterans to receive care.
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Seems to me he stood for it a long time.
 
Didn't he say this before?
 
he was outraged about the IRS scandal too, yet nothing happens.
 
MaggieD said:
The public wants to hear that people lost their jobs over this. Anything less is lip service. Resignation from the top? Not enough.
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If he resigned that would be enough. :lol:
 
I would have preferred a more decisive approach that would have entailed among the following elements:

1. An investigation with a full report to be produced within 30 days. If necessary, investigative resources would have been shifted from other projects, as the nation's veteran's deserve the highest priority.

2. A commitment that any individuals responsible for the fraudulent reporting would be held fully accountable for the fraud and the consequences of that fraud, including the deaths of veterans.

3. Any medical personnel involved in fraudulent reporting would also be held accountable, including the possible loss of their licenses to practice medicine.

4. The federal government would provide compensation to the families for their losses.
 
American said:
Obama on VA allegations: 'I will not stand for it' - CNN.com


Seems to me he stood for it a long time.
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The response so far, other than expressing "outrage", has been to let (force?) the #2 VA moron retire a month early. A harsh punishment, indeed, for not doing a job that probably led to people's earlier deaths. Yet more trouble in the kingdom; an internal investigation will conclude that mistakes were made yet nobody actually made them. ;)
 
donsutherland1 said:
I would have preferred a more decisive approach that would have entailed among the following elements:

1. An investigation with a full report to be produced within 30 days. If necessary, investigative resources would have been shifted from other projects, as the nation's veteran's deserve the highest priority.

2. A commitment that any individuals responsible for the fraudulent reporting would be held fully accountable for the fraud and the consequences of that fraud, including the deaths of veterans.

3. Any medical personnel involved in fraudulent reporting would also be held accountable, including the possible loss of their licenses to practice medicine.

4. The federal government would provide compensation to the families for their losses.
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Yes. This.
 
MaggieD said:
The public wants to hear that people lost their jobs over this. Anything less is lip service. Resignation from the top? Not enough.
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Jail or at least massive fines would be better than simply shuffling folks into more obscure federal positions or letting them retire earlier.
 
donsutherland1 said:
I would have preferred a more decisive approach that would have entailed among the following elements:

1. An investigation with a full report to be produced within 30 days. If necessary, investigative resources would have been shifted from other projects, as the nation's veteran's deserve the highest priority.

2. A commitment that any individuals responsible for the fraudulent reporting would be held fully accountable for the fraud and the consequences of that fraud, including the deaths of veterans.

3. Any medical personnel involved in fraudulent reporting would also be held accountable, including the possible loss of their licenses to practice medicine.

4. The federal government would provide compensation to the families for their losses.
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It's tough to choose with all the scandals going on out there.
 
cpgrad08 said:
You can't hold the boss responsible for his Administration actions. ;)
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Well he just didn't know, untill CNN told him. Maybe if CNN were made a govt agency there would be less scandal. :shock:
 
donsutherland1 said:
I would have preferred a more decisive approach that would have entailed among the following elements:

1. An investigation with a full report to be produced within 30 days. If necessary, investigative resources would have been shifted from other projects, as the nation's veteran's deserve the highest priority.

2. A commitment that any individuals responsible for the fraudulent reporting would be held fully accountable for the fraud and the consequences of that fraud, including the deaths of veterans.

3. Any medical personnel involved in fraudulent reporting would also be held accountable, including the possible loss of their licenses to practice medicine.

4. The federal government would provide compensation to the families for their losses.
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Yep, this and if it is found that any personnel involved broke any existing laws, they will be criminally prosecuted. But for now I will sit, wait, listen and watch as there are two ways the president can go about this. He can use this scandal to improve the VA and make it a whole lot better and he can paper over it trying to prevent political damage.

I would advise the first. If he does this, there really won't be any bad political fall out on him and it will look to the American People that he was notified of some wrong doings and he dove right in to fix the problems. Trying to paper over everything as running out a laundry list of achievements his administration has accomplished with the VA and for our servicemen won't cut it.

Michelle Obama and Jill Biden have done quite a lot for our veterans and deserve a ton of kudos. It is time now for Michelle's husband to do the same and get that whip cracking and the problems with the VA fixed and fixed as quickly as possible. My two cents
 
MaggieD said:
The public wants to hear that people lost their jobs over this. Anything less is lip service. Resignation from the top? Not enough.
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It's the military. Firing people didn't fix the problem when three generals were forced to resign back in 2007 over the Walter Reed Hospital Scandal. Demanding resignations doesn't fix the problem because it's inbred in the culture.

The other problem with demanding resignations is that people can learn from their mistakes and are less likely to make the same mistakes again, as opposed to bringing in someone new and having the same mistakes made as under previous leadership.....which appears to be the case here.
 
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Every scandal, he just pushes this button on the app on his phone.
 
azgreg said:
Didn't he say this before?
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Yeah, but this time he's really, really serious.

A few years from now, if the investigation into the investigation doesn't run into a lot of snags this will probably, almost for sure, be over with.

Stay tuned.
 
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MaggieD said:
The public wants to hear that people lost their jobs over this. Anything less is lip service. Resignation from the top? Not enough.
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Benghazi, IRS, F & F, VA, et al, all have a few things in common.

All have the same boss.

Said boss is outraged.

Said boss is on top of it.

Nothing ever happens.
 
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