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Patches are not "transition layers". They are usually newer versions of existing DLL's
Usually doesn't cut it for me.
Patches are not "transition layers". They are usually newer versions of existing DLL's
I agree with what you said except the part about Win8 being directed at consumers and it being an attempt to get them to change the way they use their personal devices
Instead, MS has recognized that consumers have already changed the way they use their devices. Win8 was designed to help businesses change the way they use technology by making it easier for them to modify and enhance their existing applications so that they work on mobile devices.
Well, yes. I agree with you. Except MS wants people to get away from using two or three different OS's across their devices and they want their Windows OS to have the same look and feel across all those devices.
The only disappointment I have with using Win8 on my desktop...and it's more directed at monitor manufacturers...is the lack of affordable touch screen monitors. I don't have a lot of money, so I can't get a good 27" touch screen monitor for my setup. I'd love to have that, though.
Yes, yes it is. Especially when you can't even get the patches, as evidenced by pages and pages of forum complaints on Microsoft's forums.
A patch is a translation layer most likely, that slows the already over-bloated software down even more.
A patch is a translation layer most likely, that slows the already over-bloated software down even more.
I did say most likely. I'm not claiming it is that way, and it was obviously an opinion.I'm thinking that you don't know much about computers. Maybe that's why you are still using XP.
So it goes.
I'm still using XP because I'm not willing to experiment with money, and it works fine for me. Does everything I need to do.I'm thinking that you don't know much about computers. Maybe that's why you are still using XP.
So it goes.
Maybe China could write its own OS.
I'm still using XP because I'm not willing to experiment with money, and it works fine for me. Does everything I need to do.
I haven't kept up with computers like I used to, but I still know more than most. I don't like the way they started changing how advanced access works starting with Vista.
I did say most likely. I'm not claiming it is that way, and it was obviously an opinion.
The way there are subroutines like spiderwebs in their OS, I can't imaging a complete rewrite being done my Microsoft. The end result I've seen over the years is the code is rarely optimized anymore, they rely on the speed of the CPU, and most people don't notice.
I'm still using XP because I'm not willing to experiment with money, and it works fine for me. Does everything I need to do.
There is no truth or logic one can present which will make Windows 8 a good product. It's crap. Everyone knows it is crap. I deal with it on a regular basis. It's awful. And when Microsoft tells you they will no longer support your product unless you run an update you cannot run, then there can be no disputing the awful quality of the OS.Well, I'm going to pretty much dismiss everything in your post because I'm thinking that no matter how much truth and logic I present, you won't change your mind. It's made up. shrug... That's fine for you.
:lamoBut I will address two things you said:
1. Problems getting patches.
I've had no problems getting patches or upgrades to my Win8x OS. I simply read and follow instructions...run the procedure...and BANG!...it's done. Easy, painfree and it works. I'm thinking these "pages and pages of forum complaints" are from a combination of diehard Winh8ters, Apple fanboys jumping on the Winh8t bandwagon and idiots who should probably spend their money on Apple products so they don't have to think about what they are doing.
I think you have forgotten what you said. You said that in 10 years, more people will be using Win 8 than Win 7. I'm telling you that is false, just like it would be false to say more people are using Vista than XP.2. In 10 years it won't be Win8.
That is true. And in 10 years, it won't be Win9, either. But whatever the latest OS is then, it will be the direct descendant of Win8. It'll have remnants of Win7, Win8, Win9...and newer features and capabilities that those others don't have right now.
And I'm speaking from my experiences with Windows 8, as well as the experiences many many people have had with Windows 8, as evidenced by the plethora of complaints around the Internet of things which don't work well or at all.I am speaking from my experiences with Windows 8. If you are having problems, address them.
I mean how can Microsoft or anyone compete against the Cult of Apple, when yesterday at the Surface Pro 3 launch event, 96% of the journalists were there with their MacBook Airs/Pros and iPads in their bags... and that some of them were already posting negative comments about the Surface Pro 3 before they had even tested it? That they before having it in their hands say that the MacBook Air is the best of the two? Damn hard to fight against such brainwashed minions and that spreads some what to the general population who read this drivel and actually believe it.
And I'm speaking from my experiences with Windows 8, as well as the experiences many many people have had with Windows 8, as evidenced by the plethora of complaints around the Internet of things which don't work well or at all.
You can find a plethora of complaints about just about anything on the internet. If we are using complaints online as the bases for whether or not something is good then I suppose everything is crap.
There is no truth or logic one can present which will make Windows 8 a good product. It's crap. Everyone knows it is crap. I deal with it on a regular basis. It's awful. And when Microsoft tells you they will no longer support your product unless you run an update you cannot run, then there can be no disputing the awful quality of the OS.
:lamo
Or it's people who try to update their software and don't see it in the Store and don't know how to restart the wuauserv service. Or they do see it in the store and one driver is incompatible with 8.1 and the upgrade process goes through the entire download and install, only to say "Sorry, we can't install" without providing any reason why before restoring to Windows 8. Your logic here is asinine. There are sometimes hundreds of pages on Microsoft's forum dedicated to problem updates. Microsoft has numerous "help" articles to provide insight into why the update isn't working. These are not Microsoft haters, these are people who are simply trying to update a system which doesn't update.
I don't know if you're a paid shill or you simply don't understand what a good operating system looks like, but you clearly are not qualified to speak on the quality of Windows 8, especially if you're going to dismiss hundreds of complaints based on your personal anecdotal evidence.
I think you have forgotten what you said. You said that in 10 years, more people will be using Win 8 than Win 7. I'm telling you that is false, just like it would be false to say more people are using Vista than XP.
I am still rocking XP for a couple of my computers. I like it far more than 7 or 8.
Unwise. Microsoft has dropped support for XP, so future security exploits aren't going to get patched. If you continue to use XP, I'd advise against doing anything sensitive on the machine.
I draw engineered plans and play video games. Shouldn't be an issue.
Seems to me people complain about any and all Microsoft products, repeat something they heard, and try to sound like some sort of an expert. Then, you actually use the product, and I think, what are these people talking about? I swear, if I had a tenth of the problems that people say exist with these products, I'd get nothing done at all.
It seems to me Windows 8 is different than Windows 7. The majority of complaints are simply that or user errors. I know nothing is perfect and some people have had issues, but the same can be said for anything.
The complaints about Windows 8 are far different, and you know it. And if you don't know it, take it from someone who regularly has to do research on the Internet to fix various computer and operating system failures.You can find a plethora of complaints about just about anything on the internet.
Or they are simply stating common knowledge that some people refuse to acknowledge.Here's a tip for all the readers here: When someone says "Everyone knows blah, blah, blah." it is a certainty that the person saying that doesn't know a damned thing.
No, no it does not. There are a plethora of reasons it doesn't work.As I said...read...follow instructions...it just works.
We refuse to use Apple products in our environment (to the point we don't even allow them to connect to our network). But we also install Zenworks on our machines and while we can't be sure (since there are no error messages telling us the problem), we think a driver installed by Zenworks prevents an update to 8.1 from 8. That's just one example. Other examples can include:These people you are talking about sound like they belong in that third category that I spoke of. Apple wants their money. They should give it to them.
Uhh, I also said you could just be clueless. But yeah, your posting definitely suggests one or the other, given the copious amount of evidence you ignore to continue stating ridiculous things. Very few people would ignore mountains of evidence by insisting on one personal anecdote, unless they were ignorant to a good OS or had an agenda.LOL!! The last refuge of one who has nothing: Accuse the other of being a paid shill.
:lamoSounds to me like I have more on the ball than those "hundreds" of complainers.
I'm thinking you've never once done anything but make asinine statements to explain the legitimate problems people have, problems even Microsoft themselves have acknowledged.I don't seem to have the problems they have and I'm using the same OS they are having trouble with. I'm thinking the trouble with Win8 originates between those people's ears.
Which is it? Because they are not the same thing.I know exactly what I've said and I stand by my prediction...and my correction.
Windows XP was released over a decade ago and still had a larger share of the market than Windows 8 until just five months ago. And it probably still would have a larger market share had Microsoft not told everyone for two years it wouldn't be supported any more.Especially since Win7 will reach it's end of life within that 10 years.
Windows 7 won't last forever and eventually another OS will replace it at the top. But it won't be Windows 8. Because Windows 8 is awful and anyone who has ever had to work with it or done research on it knows it.Or do you think it's going to last forever? Like those who are using XP? LOL!!
We refuse to use Apple products in our environment (to the point we don't even allow them to connect to our network). But we also install Zenworks on our machines and while we can't be sure (since there are no error messages telling us the problem), we think a driver installed by Zenworks prevents an update to 8.1 from 8. That's just one example.