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China bans government use of Windows 8

That's powerful, my college had a VAX 11/780 and my first PC on the job had an 8088 CPU with no graphics card and DOS 2.1.

yep, slightly before my time, at least schoolwise. we did borrow a TRS80 from the school once when i was a kid, though, and i took a class to learn how to program it. mostly, i used it to play B52 Bomber and Oregon trail.

our high school was equipped with a lab of Tandy 1000s. that meant GWBasic and Turbo Pascal with a healthy portion of King's Quest and Space Quest during study hall.
 
Remember vista and win 2000? Something will come out that will make sense. You know what I hate about windows 8...it is like apple ios. Passwords and logins for everything. Apps. Not what I wanted at all.

i had vista i didn't mind it but it was a resource hog. 7 runs much faster.
windows 2000 ugg even the server version was a disaster. server 2003 was much better and way more stable.

yea i don't know why they did that. i know they were trying to integrate tablet and everything else, but they went about it the wrong way.
i have to work on my father in laws all the time. finding anything is a disaster.
 
How did you fit all that on the back of your triceratops?

i remember when i got that 100 mb hard drive, and set up the 40 mb as a slave drive. i was so excited, and thought that there was no way i'd ever need that much storage space.
 
the fact is microsoft shot itself in the head with windows 8.
i don't nkow very many corporations that are leaving 7 after the upgrade from xp.

i know my company only orders windows 7 boxes.

windows 9 doens't look to be anymore promising just what windows 8 probably should have been.
until they come out with another windows xp/7 model they are going to have a hard time getting anyone but consumers to switch.

No...MS didn't shoot itself in the head with Win8.

Talking about corporations using or not using Win8 is irrelevant. MS knows that business use of a new OS never happens quickly. It didn't happen quickly with XP or Win7...it won't happen quickly with Win8. The fact is, Win8 is aimed directly at the consumer. MS's aim is to change the way people use their personal computing devices...from phones to tablets, laptops and pc's. They want people to get used to an OS that has the same look and feel across all those devices. But they know that'll take time. It's not a problem for them.

Businesses are still slowly working on switching to Win7. Win7 is also used by massive numbers of consumers. The consumers who stop using XP will be switching to Win8...some to Win7. No problem for MS...they sell their OS's either way.

All MS has to do...in fact, all they ARE doing...is to add content and refine their Win8/Win9, etc., direction. Make improvements. Add content and capabilities. Change the way people use their computers. Cortana is one of those capabilities...kinect is another. In 10 years, more people will be using Win8/Win9 than Win7 and corporations will be bringing up the rear...slowly changing...as they normally do.
 
Mac or bust. I got tired of XP and Vista crashing Photoshop, switched to Mac OS and never looked back.
 
yep, slightly before my time, at least schoolwise. we did borrow a TRS80 from the school once when i was a kid, though, and i took a class to learn how to program it. mostly, i used it to play B52 Bomber and Oregon trail.

our high school was equipped with a lab of Tandy 1000s. that meant GWBasic and Turbo Pascal with a healthy portion of King's Quest and Space Quest during study hall.

Oregon Trail!
 
Which company in its profit driven mind would do that to billion consumers?

Maybe China could write its own OS.
 
I think the energy savings is due to not turning on the computer with no OS on it.

You know, XP is a little old now, 7 & 8 are fine. And a little know secret is that Vista is fine also, after all the service packs.
I think China may go back to Windows 3.1.

They can use Mosaic as their web browser. :lamo
 
No...MS didn't shoot itself in the head with Win8.

Talking about corporations using or not using Win8 is irrelevant. MS knows that business use of a new OS never happens quickly. It didn't happen quickly with XP or Win7...it won't happen quickly with Win8. The fact is, Win8 is aimed directly at the consumer. MS's aim is to change the way people use their personal computing devices...from phones to tablets, laptops and pc's. They want people to get used to an OS that has the same look and feel across all those devices. But they know that'll take time. It's not a problem for them.

Businesses are still slowly working on switching to Win7. Win7 is also used by massive numbers of consumers. The consumers who stop using XP will be switching to Win8...some to Win7. No problem for MS...they sell their OS's either way.

All MS has to do...in fact, all they ARE doing...is to add content and refine their Win8/Win9, etc., direction. Make improvements. Add content and capabilities. Change the way people use their computers. Cortana is one of those capabilities...kinect is another. In 10 years, more people will be using Win8/Win9 than Win7 and corporations will be bringing up the rear...slowly changing...as they normally do.

A lot of what you say about the business adoption cycle is correct. However, 10 years is a long time. Time enough for competitors to come up with something more compelling. MS has moved to a two year DEV cycle. That's right two years. Sinofsky and Ballmer screwed the MS brand and may have sunk them good.

Win 8 is flat out unusable for business. It's also the ****tiest desktop OS available. They will lose the OS market altogether if they don't send this crap the way of winMe. The big problem MS has right now is Office. People don't need any more features, they don't need a new version. Not to mention the freeware alternatives are many and mature - they work just as well. At one time the majority of MS's money came from Office sales.
 
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I think the energy savings is due to not turning on the computer with no OS on it.

You know, XP is a little old now, 7 & 8 are fine. And a little know secret is that Vista is fine also, after all the service packs.
I think China may go back to Windows 3.1.

I personally don't want to work with a work in progress. XP is stable. It runs my programs well that I need for work. I can't say the same for 7 or 8. We did an office downgrade for our new computers because they were having issues. Put them on XP, all is good.

7 & 8 have their place. And when they get their 3rd service pack, maybe then they will be a better fit for me. Right now, they aren't the product I need. I am generally an early adopter on computer hardware. Computer software...not so much.
 
I think the energy savings is due to not turning on the computer with no OS on it.

You know, XP is a little old now, 7 & 8 are fine. And a little know secret is that Vista is fine also, after all the service packs.
I think China may go back to Windows 3.1.

Not really, energy savings comes from not having a ton of attached devices and not having a 1000w power supply running on your desktop. Games are the real power suckers.

Vista was never fine and 8 is unusable for anything but a mobile device.

If China goes back that far they'd use 3.11 (Windows for Workgroups). It actually wasn't too bad, as long as you replaced the default progman.
 
No...MS didn't shoot itself in the head with Win8.

Talking about corporations using or not using Win8 is irrelevant. MS knows that business use of a new OS never happens quickly. It didn't happen quickly with XP or Win7...it won't happen quickly with Win8. The fact is, Win8 is aimed directly at the consumer. MS's aim is to change the way people use their personal computing devices...from phones to tablets, laptops and pc's. They want people to get used to an OS that has the same look and feel across all those devices. But they know that'll take time. It's not a problem for them.

yet the consumer PC market has slumped to an all time low as individuals most away from laptops and desktops to tablets and phones. A lot of the slump is attributed to windows 8, however there is another market which is the tablet market pushing laptops out.

Talking about businesses is not irrelevant since that is the majority of their businesses. actually windows XP took off like a bang and so did windows 7. windows 7 was the first OS that major corporations switched to and most PC users switched to after xp.

1. microsoft forced the upgrad by killing of xp support, but windows 7 was just that good. windows vista wasn't that great and so corproate america didn't bite to many issues.

Businesses are still slowly working on switching to Win7. Win7 is also used by massive numbers of consumers. The consumers who stop using XP will be switching to Win8...some to Win7. No problem for MS...they sell their OS's either way.

slowly? almost all businesses are running 7 now. very few have not switched. unless it is a mom and pop shop that have their 10 year old accounting system that they refuse to upgrade.

All MS has to do...in fact, all they ARE doing...is to add content and refine their Win8/Win9, etc., direction. Make improvements. Add content and capabilities. Change the way people use their computers. Cortana is one of those capabilities...kinect is another. In 10 years, more people will be using Win8/Win9 than Win7 and corporations will be bringing up the rear...slowly changing...as they normally do.

They need to do more than that because i know for a fact that i will never install windown 8 or windows 9 on any PC i have or ever get. i have a copy of windows 7 professional and until windows comes up with an operating system that works just as well and just as fast and just as user efficient i won't switch.

almost everyone i know and speak to hate windows 8 with a passion.
corporate america has rejected it and microsoft has taken a huge hit.

they tried to put a tablet made OS and stick it on a PC and it failed.
 
Not really, energy savings comes from not having a ton of attached devices and not having a 1000w power supply running on your desktop. Games are the real power suckers.
That was a joke, not turning on. Most systems will run on a 600w PSU, 1000w is only for the most high end, expensive systems, otherwise it's overkill.
Vista was never fine and 8 is unusable for anything but a mobile device.

Vista works fine for me, never had a problem. There was a problem with device drivers when it first came out, but that was taken care of. I use 7 & 8 everyday, both are very stable. Obviously, 8 still gets patches, so will continue to improve.

If China goes back that far they'd use 3.11 (Windows for Workgroups). It actually wasn't too bad, as long as you replaced the default progman.
Yes, the Workgoups would appeal to those Socialist Commies.
 
Windows 8 with the more recent patches isn't that bad.
Yes, yes it is. Especially when you can't even get the patches, as evidenced by pages and pages of forum complaints on Microsoft's forums.
I'd go along with every company's IT banning it. It seems to be a productivity killer. I don't know many large corps with touch-screen workstations. Stupid move by MS.
We don't put it in unless we have no choice.
No...MS didn't shoot itself in the head with Win8.
But they did put out a pitiful product.

The fact is, Win8 is aimed directly at the consumer. MS's aim is to change the way people use their personal computing devices...from phones to tablets, laptops and pc's. They want people to get used to an OS that has the same look and feel across all those devices. But they know that'll take time. It's not a problem for them.
It is a problem for them, otherwise they wouldn't be backtracking so hard on the things people have complained about since W8 first previewed.

Windows 8 was terrible. Everyone knows it.

All MS has to do...in fact, all they ARE doing...is to add content and refine their Win8/Win9, etc., direction. Make improvements. Add content and capabilities.
Add capabilities like an easy to find power button, boot to desktop and a start menu...

Now if they could only do something about how terrible their upgrading process has turned out to be...

In 10 years, more people will be using Win8/Win9 than Win7
Not Windows 8. Windows 9, maybe, but not Windows 8. Windows 8 is going the way of ME and Vista and rightfully so.
 
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China bans government use of Windows 8 - Livemint

I think we should all follow China's lead on this one.

I did...I went to Best Buy to purchase a new desktop about a month ago. They had on their shelves almost NO desktops. The ones they did have was Window 8. I refused to buy a W8. They said they could order one in with Windows7. So I went down the street to HH Gregg. They had ONE HP with Windows7. I bought it immediately.

Microsoft is apparently phasing out Windows7 OS and actually I think they are forcing the world to go to those damned tablets as opposed to laptops. If it comes to that I'm done with computers.
 
I am still rocking XP for a couple of my computers. I like it far more than 7 or 8.

Same here. Maybe Microsoft will figure out they screwed up, and make Windows 9 a better version of XP.

I turned off updates a few months back, because I can't help but think MS will send an update to slow or cripple XP.
 
Windows 8 with the more recent patches isn't that bad. Once I got used to the cell phone type layouts I started liking it more.

A patch is a translation layer most likely, that slows the already over-bloated software down even more.
 
I use my computers for CAD (engineered drawings). XP runs the program well. My experience with 7 & 8 is that CAD crashes at very random times.

Also, XP is great for gaming. And it is energy efficient according to the Chinese government.
Yes.

XP is the most stable windows I have ever seen.

Why does MS think i want to give that up?
 
The factual reason for the ban by China would be the well known NSA backdoor into the operating systems provided by Microsoft for USA intelligence Agencies.
Yes, I forgot about reading that.
 
I know what CAD is :).

You know xp is no longer supported by microsoft.
Who gives a rip?

Do you want to be supported by your parents for all your life?
 
A lot of what you say about the business adoption cycle is correct. However, 10 years is a long time. Time enough for competitors to come up with something more compelling. MS has moved to a two year DEV cycle. That's right two years. Sinofsky and Ballmer screwed the MS brand and may have sunk them good.

Win 8 is flat out unusable for business. It's also the ****tiest desktop OS available. They will lose the OS market altogether if they don't send this crap the way of winMe. The big problem MS has right now is Office. People don't need any more features, they don't need a new version. Not to mention the freeware alternatives are many and mature - they work just as well. At one time the majority of MS's money came from Office sales.

I never can understand the logic when someone like you says that Win8 is "flat out unusable for business". You do understand, don't you, that Win8 is nothing more than an improved and enhanced Win7? If Win7 is usable for business, then it's illogical to say that Win8 is unusable. The same is true with your statement about Win8 being a the "#########" desktop OS available. If Win 7 is a good OS, Win8 is too...only it's better. It's a move toward the future of computing. And, in regard to Office...MS is making changes to the way that software works to make it more compatible and useful for mobile environments. This is right in line with their future goals of making their OS and their software usable across the whole range of digital devices.

And, for sure, competitors will come up with their alternatives. But they will have a hard time at it. Google probably has the best chances, but I don't think they will really hurt MS much. Especially in the business market.
 
No...MS didn't shoot itself in the head with Win8.

Talking about corporations using or not using Win8 is irrelevant. MS knows that business use of a new OS never happens quickly. It didn't happen quickly with XP or Win7...it won't happen quickly with Win8. The fact is, Win8 is aimed directly at the consumer. MS's aim is to change the way people use their personal computing devices...from phones to tablets, laptops and pc's. They want people to get used to an OS that has the same look and feel across all those devices. But they know that'll take time. It's not a problem for them.

Businesses are still slowly working on switching to Win7. Win7 is also used by massive numbers of consumers. The consumers who stop using XP will be switching to Win8...some to Win7. No problem for MS...they sell their OS's either way.

All MS has to do...in fact, all they ARE doing...is to add content and refine their Win8/Win9, etc., direction. Make improvements. Add content and capabilities. Change the way people use their computers. Cortana is one of those capabilities...kinect is another. In 10 years, more people will be using Win8/Win9 than Win7 and corporations will be bringing up the rear...slowly changing...as they normally do.

I agree with what you said except the part about Win8 being directed at consumers and it being an attempt to get them to change the way they use their personal devices

Instead, MS has recognized that consumers have already changed the way they use their devices. Win8 was designed to help businesses change the way they use technology by making it easier for them to modify and enhance their existing applications so that they work on mobile devices.
 
Yes, yes it is. Especially when you can't even get the patches, as evidenced by pages and pages of forum complaints on Microsoft's forums.
We don't put it in unless we have no choice.
But they did put out a pitiful product.

It is a problem for them, otherwise they wouldn't be backtracking so hard on the things people have complained about since W8 first previewed.

Windows 8 was terrible. Everyone knows it.

Add capabilities like an easy to find power button, boot to desktop and a start menu...

Now if they could only do something about how terrible their upgrading process has turned out to be...

Not Windows 8. Windows 9, maybe, but not Windows 8. Windows 8 is going the way of ME and Vista and rightfully so.

Well, I'm going to pretty much dismiss everything in your post because I'm thinking that no matter how much truth and logic I present, you won't change your mind. It's made up. shrug... That's fine for you.

But I will address two things you said:

1. Problems getting patches.

I've had no problems getting patches or upgrades to my Win8x OS. I simply read and follow instructions...run the procedure...and BANG!...it's done. Easy, painfree and it works. I'm thinking these "pages and pages of forum complaints" are from a combination of diehard Winh8ters, Apple fanboys jumping on the Winh8t bandwagon and idiots who should probably spend their money on Apple products so they don't have to think about what they are doing.

2. In 10 years it won't be Win8.

That is true. And in 10 years, it won't be Win9, either. But whatever the latest OS is then, it will be the direct descendant of Win8. It'll have remnants of Win7, Win8, Win9...and newer features and capabilities that those others don't have right now.
 
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