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Russia and China Move Into Central America

That you agreed with danarhea that the seeds of the current Nicaraguan problem
were planted during the Reagan admin. with the death squads Reagan supported.

Reagan supported them the same way Obama is supporting some sort of operation somewhere in the world conducted by US secret forces today.

Presidents are mostly figureheads. ;)
 
:roll: More fear-mongering I see. Given how certain Americans react to Putin even discussing the idea of putting just a few troops in a few parts of Latin America distant from U.S. shores, one has to wonder how Russia feels with NATO forces and American military bases strewn along its borders.
 
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Im pretty sure thats exactly what I said. And no, its not my browser, I know how to use mine.
 
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Obama has absolutely no idea as to what he is doing as POTUS......

This is a ****ing idiot that has ZERO real life experience and has never been in charge of ANYTHING IN HIS LIFE other than the United States.

What is Obama willing to do? wait until the barrel of the Russian gun is pointed at his face much like the Cuban Missile Crisis?

He would not only do that, he'd see it as a sign of strength. Its how liberals do.
 
Reagan supported them the same way Obama is supporting some sort of operation somewhere in the world conducted by US secret forces today.

Presidents are mostly figureheads. ;)

Not with the the number of House investigative committees in 2014.
A different standard has been set for DEM and GOP Presidents with things like Iran/Contra and supporting Nicaraguan death squads since Reagan.
If GOPs do it, they're Patriotic.
If DEMs do it, GOPs politicize every little skirmish since Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize, not his fault for the timing of that either .
 
He would not only do that, he'd see it as a sign of strength. Its how liberals do.
Where would you like to start the next war of choice according to faulty intel to benefit Haliburton?
Have you noticed the polls overwhelmingly against foreign intervention, thanks to last decade's ****-ups?
The GOP is certainly split like the Grand Canyon between Neos and Isos .
 
Where would you like to start the next war of choice according to faulty intel to benefit Haliburton?
Have you noticed the polls overwhelmingly against foreign intervention, thanks to last decade's ****-ups?
The GOP is certainly split like the Grand Canyon between Neos and Isos .

And I will take false choice for $100, please Alex.
 
Did Nicaragua invite Russia and China? If so, then that is Nicaragua's business. And, after what we did, supporting the death squads there, do you blame Nicaragua? Ron Paul called it "blowback". Bad foreign policy eventually comes back to roost.

The US did not support any "Death Squads" in Nicaragua. That was the communists in power. It was the Americans who helped free the Nicaraguan people and allowed them to have a democracy. That Cold War propaganda should stay back in the 70's and 89's where it belongs.
 
There used to be a time when we were serious about not allowing communism into the western hemisphere. Men gave their lives in that protection. Today we turn our palms skyward, shrug our shoulders, and continue through life with puzzled looks on our faces, muttering "what can we do?" Pathetic.

I am not sure what to order from Rosetta Stone, Russian, or mandarin Chinese? :(

Communism was always about totalitarianism and control while the western leftists thought it some sort of 'share the wealth' scheme where everyone would share in the bounty of the harvests, have free medical, and sing folk songs on the streets of Havana and elsewhere. Because of seven decades of this never even coming close to happening anywhere in the world it is safe to assume that these people are simply not very observant or intelligent.
 
Really? Last time I checked China and Russia had embraced capitalism on the economic front. China is a Communist country only politically while Putin is quite arguably a fascist.

The labels you attach to each other is unimportant. Check out their actions and you can see a lot more.
 
We may yet find out US Conservative.
As for your poor poor NIMBY mocking, you can't refute Reagan's planting the Nicaragua seeds so you mock posters and blame Obama, your MO .

The Nicaraguan seeds of democracy?? Yes, Reagan deserves credit for this certainly.
 
This is quite important and yet no one seems to be talking about it. I live mostly in Costa Rica but often visit Nicaragua and what's happening there is huge.



How would George Kennan respond to Nicaragua



There is nothing new here...

Chinese companies have been managing the Panama Canal now for decades, I do believe an international consortium was formed several years ago to build a second canal, one that would handle the big container ships.

Russian and Chinese companies have been investing heavily in Central American countries for many years now and in recent years have been taking advantage of the collapse of the US economy and edging out American competition. While Obama has been claiming all is well, the new global economy has been gobbling up US interests world wide.

This does get coverage in the shipping and economic news, but I guess not in the MSM there
 
Right-wingers who try to make politics over anything happening beyond our shores wouldn't have it any other way either, would they ?



*Right wingers* who try to make politics over anything happening beyond our shores?????


Ahem......There was that little matter of Syria and a Red Line. Then there was Arab Spring, oh and the great Obama apology...

And oh, gee, how many rock star tours to Europe, the ****ed up toast to the queen....and never shall we forget the making of politics, the kind where you lie to get re-elected, ta da!....

that little matter of stomping across the country, day after day, for over two weeks insisting that four dead Americans were the result of a kind of, gee, silly little demonstration that, oops,. kind of got out of hand and demolished America's reputation wold wide..

That kind of making politics over anything that happens world wide?

Or did you mean screwing with peoples lives in Kyiv, creating havoc and forcing the downfall of a duly elected government? That kind of making politics? Or is is how now that Obama has been chased from the region with his tail between his legs, Putin is regaining control of the Ukraine, more people are dying and your president is more concerned about his new heroic endeavor, kidnapped children.

People in glass houses need to be careful when lobbing grenades since you have nukes pointed back at you.
 
There is nothing new here...

There has been talk of building a canal across Nicaragua for well over a century but now it finally seems to be happening, which really is big new news for shipping, yes, but also big news for Nicaragua and not so good news for Panama. The Nicaragua Canal can handle larger cargo and shorter times from Asia to Europe.

Chinese companies have been managing the Panama Canal now for decades, I do believe an international consortium was formed several years ago to build a second canal, one that would handle the big container ships.
Yes, the Chinese have been moving into Central America and it will probably be Chinese who will buy my properties in CR.

Russian and Chinese companies have been investing heavily in Central American countries for many years now and in recent years have been taking advantage of the collapse of the US economy and edging out American competition. While Obama has been claiming all is well, the new global economy has been gobbling up US interests world wide.
Russians have not been investing like the Chinese and this story of Russian involvement in the canal is a new one, or at least the first i've heard of it, and I've been following rather closely because I'm considering an investment there.

This does get coverage in the shipping and economic news, but I guess not in the MSM there
It is certainly more newsworthy than a lot of what we see being discussed on these pages, and will be around a lot longer
 
Did Nicaragua invite Russia and China? If so, then that is Nicaragua's business. And, after what we did, supporting the death squads there, do you blame Nicaragua? Ron Paul called it "blowback". Bad foreign policy eventually comes back to roost.

Very great point.
 
It was on Obama's watch. Good legacy.

Wtf is Obama suppose to do about Nicaragua inviting China and Russia to a construction project. And why should he try to do anything?
 
This is quite important and yet no one seems to be talking about it. I live mostly in Costa Rica but often visit Nicaragua and what's happening there is huge.



How would George Kennan respond to Nicaragua

central and south america have been vulnerable and a security risk since the ending of the gold standard.most the worl either tied their currency to the gold dollar or was independant of it,but central and south america were heavily dependant on the gold dollar,since ending the gold standard,many south american countries went from being economic power houses to dirt poor,and it was only a matter of time before someone stepped in.even after ending the gold dollar,the us could have held its influence,rather than sitting back and watching their currencies no longer tied to the dollar fail.instead we did nothing so its only natural someone else capitalizes on our lack of effort or care.
 
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You are aware of course that the Contras (Nicaraguan death death squads) were supported and funded under Ronald Reagan. Also see: Iran–Contra affair.

Partisans on the right don't like to admit such things anymore than partisans on the left do about Clinton failings. But great point!!
 
Russia's aggression is the direct result of Obama and is weak defense policies..... Let me ask everyone this: Would JFK - the democrat - have tolerated this nonsense? hell no.

As far as China, I have no idea why they're in on this fiasco as well but I'm sure they're doing it just because they can and know Obama wont do a damn thing about it.

Putin needs to be dealt with, however Obamy loves him too much.

Your comparing a joint construction project between Russia and China at Nicaragua's request with Russia attempting to place nuclear weapons in Cuba a hundred miles from the US. Obama hatred clouds people's thinking.
 
Obama has absolutely no idea as to what he is doing as POTUS......

This is a ****ing idiot that has ZERO real life experience and has never been in charge of ANYTHING IN HIS LIFE other than the United States.

What is Obama willing to do? wait until the barrel of the Russian gun is pointed at his face much like the Cuban Missile Crisis?

Whatcha wanta do. Send the military to confront Russia's construction crew. You guys are unbelievable.
 
The US did not support any "Death Squads" in Nicaragua. That was the communists in power. It was the Americans who helped free the Nicaraguan people and allowed them to have a democracy. That Cold War propaganda should stay back in the 70's and 89's where it belongs.

Oh dear lord,


The United States has sought to control the region of Latin America well before the Cold War. That is why U. S. Marines were involved in Nicaragua from 1910 - 1933. After the victory of the Sandinista revolution in 1979, the conflict was initially one between the U. S. and Nicaragua. The U.S.S.R. and Cuba came to the aid of Nicaragua when it was apparent the U.S. was fighting a covert war against the Sandinista government. Despite the fact that the Sandinistas won in fair elections, the U.S. continued to subvert the government, and support the Contras (many of whom were former National Guard, and who "raped, tortured, and killed unarmed civilians, including children," and who were responsible for the deaths of "groups of civilians, including pregnant women and children were burned, dismembered, blinded and beheaded)."


That was another example where Russia was supporting the right side. The FSLN that was fighting to overthrow the dictatorship that the US was propping up.

The Nicaraguan Revolution (Spanish: Revolución Nicaragüense or Revolución Popular Sandinista) encompassed the rising opposition to the Somoza dictatorship in the 1960s and 1970s, the campaign led by the Sandinista National Liberation Front (FSLN) to violently oust the dictatorship in 1978-79, the subsequent efforts of the FSLN to govern Nicaragua from 1979 until 1990[13] and the Contra War which was waged between the FSLN and the Contras from 1981-1990.

Nicaraguan Revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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The seeds were planted during the Reagan regime.
Didn't you just read the post before yours, #3?

Don't you know? Obama planned this on his way from Kenya to Hawaii as a part of his master plan to rule the universe.
 
Partisans on the right don't like to admit such things anymore than partisans on the left do about Clinton failings. But great point!!
How can it be a good point if its false? Do you have any idea at all what the Communists did in Nicaragua? Ever visited there or talked to the people?
 
Oh dear lord,


The United States has sought to control the region of Latin America well before the Cold War. That is why U. S. Marines were involved in Nicaragua from 1910 - 1933. After the victory of the Sandinista revolution in 1979, the conflict was initially one between the U. S. and Nicaragua. The U.S.S.R. and Cuba came to the aid of Nicaragua when it was apparent the U.S. was fighting a covert war against the Sandinista government. Despite the fact that the Sandinistas won in fair elections, the U.S. continued to subvert the government, and support the Contras (many of whom were former National Guard, and who "raped, tortured, and killed unarmed civilians, including children," and who were responsible for the deaths of "groups of civilians, including pregnant women and children were burned, dismembered, blinded and beheaded)."


That was another example where Russia was supporting the right side. The FSLN that was fighting to overthrow the dictatorship that the US was propping up.

The Nicaraguan Revolution (Spanish: Revolución Nicaragüense or Revolución Popular Sandinista) encompassed the rising opposition to the Somoza dictatorship in the 1960s and 1970s, the campaign led by the Sandinista National Liberation Front (FSLN) to violently oust the dictatorship in 1978-79, the subsequent efforts of the FSLN to govern Nicaragua from 1979 until 1990[13] and the Contra War which was waged between the FSLN and the Contras from 1981-1990.

Nicaraguan Revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why not do some real research. Do you seriously believe that Cuba and Russia were there to help the Nicaraguan people?? Did you know for example that over 400,000 people fled Nicaragua after the Communist dictatorship took control? Do you have any understanding at all of what the Communists did throughout the world??

That you, as well as many other leftists, actually believe Cold War Wiki link propaganda is a black mark against the US education system and the ignorance of what really happened during that period.

Here's a history lesson. Nicaragua is on page 665. http://www.germanvictims.com/wp-con...munism-jean-louis-margolin-1999-communism.pdf
 
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