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Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40, 145]

Putting aside ideological narratives, there's every indication that Clinton would be a formidable candidate if she ran. Those who counsel complacency risk making an enormous error. The latest polling results can be found here:

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You say that NOW, but how effective of a candidate will she be after a perpetual release of corroborating evidence that proves her complicity in building the Benghazi false narrative ?

Its not just going to go away not should it.
 
Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

i don't think that's true at all.

what was benghazi was about?

the administration hasn't come clean about it.

when "judicial watch" has to use the freedom of information act to get documents from the administration to shed light on the situation, that means the administration seems to have something to hide.



Let's see now....after an FBI investigation, a investigation report by the Intelligence Select Committee, inquiries and a reports by the Armed Services Committee, the Foreign Affairs committee, the Intelligence, Judiciary, and Oversight Committee, an investigation report by State Department Accountability Review Board, an investigation report by the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs and an investigation report by the House Select Committee.....and you believe the WH still isn't coming clean about the attacks on Benghazi? Really? What piece of the puzzle are you missing that all those investigations didn't find?
 
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Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

:agree: However, Rove apparently knows something, and he also knows the system well enough to understand the difference between what can be said off-the-cuff, and what might require documentation. We shall see.

Greetings, Pero. :2wave:

Perhaps, Rove is a decent strategist, but as for a pundit or predictor he usually falls way short. I really do not think Hillary will run in 2016. If I was looking for a nominee for the democrats in 2016, I would be looking at a couple of governors, not senators, not old politicians such as Hillary or Biden. A fresh face.
 
Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

Perhaps, Rove is a decent strategist, but as for a pundit or predictor he usually falls way short. I really do not think Hillary will run in 2016. If I was looking for a nominee for the democrats in 2016, I would be looking at a couple of governors, not senators, not old politicians such as Hillary or Biden. A fresh face.

Perhaps former governor of Montana Brian Schweitzer?
 
Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

If Americans put there country first, yes. If they put their party first, perhaps not. Mitt Romney seems to have overestimated the intelligence of the electorate and the country is paying the price for that,

I think what we saw was the insane bias of the yellow media that is the operative arm of the Libs.. we saw Soros money and intimidation of the people facing boycotts and THE IRS if they didnt fall in line with the Libs commie program of changing the USA...
 
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I think what we saw was the insane bias of the yellow media that is the operative arm of the Libs.. we saw Soros money and intimidation of the people facing boycotts and THE IRS if they didnt fall in line with the Libs commie program of changing the USA...

Libs commie program????
How old are you?
 
Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

Let's see now....after an FBI investigation, a investigation report by the Intelligence Select Committee, inquiries and a reports by the Armed Services Committee, the Foreign Affairs committee, the Intelligence, Judiciary, and Oversight Committee, an investigation report by State Department Accountability Review Board, an investigation report by the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs and an investigation report by the House Select Committee.....and you believe the WH still isn't coming clean? Really? What piece of the puzzle are you missing that all those investigations didn't find?

Its proven they didnt come clean and fabricated a lie...

we also see today that the IRS audited 10% of tea party supporters...they only won through illegal procedures

we are done with the LIES
 
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Libs commie program????
How old are you?

Old enough to call it what it is..and see whos funding it
 
Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

Libs commie program????
How old are you?

old enough to be audited also


how about you?
 
You say that NOW, but how effective of a candidate will she be after a perpetual release of corroborating evidence that proves her complicity in building the Benghazi false narrative ?

Its not just going to go away not should it.

I make no predictions about the actual outcome. A lot can change between now and the election, assuming she runs. My point is that right now, given what is known, the polling data shows that she would be a very strong candidate. The notion that she is "DOA" is not supported by any credible polling data. IMO, the GOP's best chance would come from running a candidate who has gravitas, is broadly experienced with a tangible record of achievements in office, and who can clearly and effectively articulate a compelling vision of where he/she would like to lead the country. A flawed candidate--one who has little experience, lacks a distinguished record in public office, or tries to position his/her campaign as being the "non-Hillary Clinton" campaign likely won't be very competitive.
 
Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

Libs commie program????
How old are you?

did you weep when McCain was falsley accused of an affair that ran in the NYTs for weeks on the front page even though it was a lie? right before the election....
 
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Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

Its proven they didnt come clean and fabricated a lie...

we also see today that the IRS audited 10% of tea party supporters...they only won through illegal procedures

we are done with the LIES

Nothing was proven a lie....except Issa's hearings. I'm pretty done with those, too.
 
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If Americans put there country first, yes. If they put their party first, perhaps not. Mitt Romney seems to have overestimated the intelligence of the electorate and the country is paying the price for that,

Mitt Romney was the wrong candidate to defeat a vulnerable sitting president. If you think about, good old Mitt basically bought the Republican nomination, also he was the next in line candidate which the Republicans have a habit of nominating. Mitt won the states in the primaries in which he outspent all his opponents by 5-1 and sometimes as high as 10-1. The states where the money was relative even, he lost.

then Romney never overcame the trust factor, that trust factor, changing his lifetime held political beliefs to run for president back in 2008 carried over into 2012. That trust factor lost him the nomination in 2008 and the presidency in 2012. I think the electorate was ready for a change, they just weren't ready for that change to be Romney. It is sort of keeping the devil you know instead of buying into the devil you don't. But that is water under the bridge.

I think 2012 can be summed up by saying Romney received the Republican votes, Obama got the Democratic votes and the independents split 50-50. But the Democratic base is larger than the Republican one and has been so since 1932. Hence Obama won only because his base was larger than Romney's. To win a presidential race, like it or not the Republican nominee must win around 54-55% of the independents.
 
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Nothing was proven a lie....except Issa's hearings. I'm pretty done with those, too.

who cares if you are or arent...

we have new info and most of us know Clinton is a criminal and a liar..she lied under oath..much like her pig husband
 
Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

Mitt Romney was the wrong candidate to defeat a vulnerable sitting president. If you think about, good old Mitt basically bought the Republican nomination, also he was the next in line candidate which the Republicans have a habit of nominating. Mitt won the states in the primaries in which he outspent all his opponents by 5-1 and sometimes as high as 10-1. The states where the money was relative even, he lost.

then Romney never overcame the trust factor, that trust factor, changing his lifetime held political beliefs to run for president back in 2008 carried over into 2012. That trust factor lost him the nomination in 2008 and the presidency in 2012. I think the electorate was ready for a change, they just weren't ready for that change to be Romney. It is sort of keeping the devil you know instead of buying into the devil you don't. But that is water under the bridge.

I think 2012 can be summed up by saying Romney received the Republican votes, Obama got the Democratic votes and the independents split 50-50. But the Democratic base is larger than the Republican one and has been so since 1932. Hence Obama won only because his base was larger than Romney's. To win a presidential race, like it or not the Republican nominee must win around 54-55% of the independents.

Could you call any of the other republican canidates a credible contender? I think john huntsman was the only one.
 
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who cares if you are or arent...

we have new info and most of us know Clinton is a criminal and a liar..she lied under oath..much like her pig husband

Nobody cares what you think 007
 
Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

Mitt Romney was the wrong candidate to defeat a vulnerable sitting president. If you think about, good old Mitt basically bought the Republican nomination, also he was the next in line candidate which the Republicans have a habit of nominating. Mitt won the states in the primaries in which he outspent all his opponents by 5-1 and sometimes as high as 10-1. The states where the money was relative even, he lost.

then Romney never overcame the trust factor, that trust factor, changing his lifetime held political beliefs to run for president back in 2008 carried over into 2012. That trust factor lost him the nomination in 2008 and the presidency in 2012. I think the electorate was ready for a change, they just weren't ready for that change to be Romney. It is sort of keeping the devil you know instead of buying into the devil you don't. But that is water under the bridge.

I think 2012 can be summed up by saying Romney received the Republican votes, Obama got the Democratic votes and the independents split 50-50. But the Democratic base is larger than the Republican one and has been so since 1932. Hence Obama won only because his base was larger than Romney's. To win a presidential race, like it or not the Republican nominee must win around 54-55% of the independents.

Thate where amnsety fits in.. the libs need to flood the polls with illegals without IDs....
 
Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

Nobody cares what you think 007

it appears they do.. Benghazi is THE TOPIC along with the IRS scandel for adults...
 
Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

did you weep when McCain was falsley accused of an affair that ran in the NYTs for weeks on the front page even though it was a lie? right before the election....

You most assuredly must remember who made those false accusations against McCain...right?
 
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it appears they do.. Benghazi is THE TOPIC along with the IRS scandel for adults...

No... You must be lost...
...The topic here is Rove making false claims about candidates he opposes.
 
Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

who cares if you are or arent...
You do.

we have new info and most of us know Clinton is a criminal and a liar..she lied under oath..much like her pig husband
You have nothing and never did. It's all just emotional outbursts and tantrums. It's like the old adage.....

“If you have the law, hammer the law. If you have the facts, hammer the facts. If you have neither the law nor the facts, hammer the table”.


You're hammering the table.
 
Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

Perhaps former governor of Montana Brian Schweitzer?

I really like him, he is one of three I was thinking of. Another is Jay Nixon of Missouri and Steve Beshear of Kentucky. Now outside of Schweitzer I haven't heard if Nixon or Beshear are interested. All three governors are probably too conservative to win the nomination though. Although I will say the Democratic Party is more willing to nominate someone who can win and overlook the ideology of that person than the Republicans. These three remind me of some of the older conservative type Democrats I have known. Bill Clinton was of this ilk and he did a real good job. Most of us remember him fondly.

You probably know these types of Democrats as blue dogs. Down here in Georgia we use to have yeller dog Democrats. Keep a watch on the Georgia senate race, I would say the chances are about 50-50 or a bit better we will send you a fairly conservative Democratic senator to Washington come November.
 
Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

Perhaps, Rove is a decent strategist, but as for a pundit or predictor he usually falls way short. I really do not think Hillary will run in 2016. If I was looking for a nominee for the democrats in 2016, I would be looking at a couple of governors, not senators, not old politicians such as Hillary or Biden. A fresh face.

As you know, I have never felt Hillary would run - based on comments she herself has made over the years. But I also understand that politicians sometimes have to play things the way they do to keep things interesting and "newsy." Two years is a very long time in the political world, as you have pointed out, so I reckon we'll know for sure one way or the other... when they tell us! :mrgreen:
 
Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

Let's see now....after an FBI investigation, a investigation report by the Intelligence Select Committee, inquiries and a reports by the Armed Services Committee, the Foreign Affairs committee, the Intelligence, Judiciary, and Oversight Committee, an investigation report by State Department Accountability Review Board, an investigation report by the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs and an investigation report by the House Select Committee.....and you believe the WH still isn't coming clean about the attacks on Benghazi? Really? What piece of the puzzle are you missing that all those investigations didn't find?


let's see...........

when "judicial watch" has to use the freedom of information act to get documents from the administration to shed light on the situation, please explain why the administration didn't release them? transparency!! of course NOT!!

when you have to use the freedom of information act to get the facts, something is usually being.......................
 
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