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Kidnapped Nigerian Girls

poweRob said:
This will all boil down to drug trade. Watch the guys video. He's geeked out of his goard. The girls are just for poer and side money and as usual religion plays the excuse for violence as it always has.
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They are pretty much established as a terrorist organization and have made quite a few attacks apparently.
 
Islam is a lie. Muslims don't believe the same God as Jews and Christians. Islam is a false, demonic "religion" of hate. Muslims practice taqiyya. Do you know what that means, that's part of the problem. Muslims like to say that they believe in Jesus but only as a prophet not God. Muslims believe that Islam is a lie. Muslims practice taqiyya. If you don't in the end times Jesus will come back and deny His divinity, deny the Resurrection, deny the cross and say the whole thing was a hoax. Muslims believe that when Jesus comes back He will say that He is a Muslim and break all the crosses. Does this sound like the Jesus of the Bible? Of cause not! Muslims will never talk about that.
Muslims will use the West's freedom, laws and PC culture against it and for the benefit of Islam. Muslims will come as sheep but they are like ravenous wolfs.
Pray for understanding, read the Qur'an and the Bible and you will see the truth that Jesus is our Lord and Savor. Muslims don't want you to know the truth. I can't count the how many times the "religion of peace" had deleted my posts. Everything I need to know about Islam, I learned on 9/11.
Even our own leaders bend over backwards trying not to offend the practitioners of the "religion of peace".
All over the world Muslims are fighting their neighbors be they Jewish, Christian or other Muslims. Does that sound peaceful to you?
We should invade their counties, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. Ann Coulter after 9/11.
What are they afraid of? The truth? I'm not going anywhere. I'll keep writing.
Jesus Christ is the only way. Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savor. Repent while there is yet time and pray that your name is in the book of life at judgment.
 
ChrisL said:
You can't expect change to happen when nobody knows what's going on. That is what this campaign is about I think. What better way to garner support for a cause than through the internet? There is really nothing else a person can do to show their support for the girls, so while it might not DO anything, there is certainly nothing wrong with spreading the word and educating other people about what is happening.

I really, REALLY cannot understand where all the negativity about this comes from... The real point is that it educates people about what is happening and when the international community is against something, it does put pressure on the government to do something, just as my links state.
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Looks like Goodluck is really concerned about those girls. Vice, you know, not looking bad for the elections next year.
 
poweRob said:
This will all boil down to drug trade. Watch the guys video. He's geeked out of his goard. The girls are just for poer and side money and as usual religion plays the excuse for violence as it always has.
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Actually Boko Haram will straight up execute you for that crap. Smoking, drinking, drugs, etc. The drug trade in Nigeria is on the coastline, but Boko Haram is centered up in Borno.


Nope, Ahmed Shekau is just no-kidding real-world, bat-**** crazy.

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ChrisL said:
Does not change the fact that the web campaign did no harm. In fact, it's even better that it's already out there. Thank goodness for the internet! :)
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:shrug: I rather suspect it did. It provided a costless and resultless means for people to feel that they had "done their part", thereby draining away support from efforts that might have actually helped the girls.
 
cpwill said:
:shrug: I rather suspect it did. It provided a costless and resultless means for people to feel that they had "done their part", thereby draining away support from efforts that might have actually helped the girls.
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That's not true at all. You make it sound as if people can only pay attention to ONE website, and because they offer support means they have done NOTHING else, and that's not the case. :roll:
 
ChrisL said:
That's not true at all. You make it sound as if people can only pay attention to ONE website, and because they offer support means they have done NOTHING else, and that's not the case. :roll:
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Only one? No. But people do tend to accept the least-cost method, and feel that they have done their part. We have low-levels of cause-exhaustion for that which does not effect us. That's why tips on Sunday afternoon are the worst for wait-staff. People feel like they have "already been generous" when they gave at church.
 
cpwill said:
Actually Boko Haram will straight up execute you for that crap. Smoking, drinking, drugs, etc. The drug trade in Nigeria is on the coastline, but Boko Haram is centered up in Borno.


Nope, Ahmed Shekau is just no-kidding real-world, bat-**** crazy.

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Bank robbery, kidnapping, drugs and guns fund Boko Haram's bloody ventures | Fox News

Drugs, Driving Boko Haram Activities, Says Shettima
http://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/117456/1/drugs-driving-boko-haram-activities-says-shettima.html

Nigerian militant chief is ‘high on drugs’
http://www.arabnews.com/news/570971
 
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poweRob said:
Bank robbery, kidnapping, drugs and guns fund Boko Haram's bloody ventures | Fox News

Drugs, Driving Boko Haram Activities, Says Shettima
Drugs, Driving Boko Haram Activities, Says Shettima

Nigerian militant chief is ‘high on drugs’
http://www.arabnews.com/news/570971
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Yup. They probably also got a crap-ton of money for the Italian hostages they just released - that and armed robbery are their cash cows. That being said, the drug trade is down off the coastline, along with piracy, and kidnapping / extortion / theft from oil companies.
 
cpwill said:
Only one? No. But people do tend to accept the least-cost method, and feel that they have done their part. We have low-levels of cause-exhaustion for that which does not effect us. That's why tips on Sunday afternoon are the worst for wait-staff. People feel like they have "already been generous" when they gave at church.
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Evidence of this would be that the girls are still not free and have been dropped from the news cycle. But those holding the hashtags can still feel good about themselves.
 
Grant said:
Evidence of this would be that the girls are still not free and have been dropped from the news cycle. But those holding the hashtags can still feel good about themselves.
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Here... just for you. A reminder line from the OP:

ChrisL said:
I know I saw another thread about this, but it is full of partisan bickering. I was hoping to start a thread that is about the Nigerian girls and the things that are being done to rescue them.
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Grant said:
Where are the girls? Has Michelle O. made any more announcements?
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Unfortunately new news will always overshadow the old and with the Bowe Bergdahl story, sadly we probably won't hear much about the girls anymore. Short of invading Nigeria and overthrowing Mr. Goodluck, the ONLY thing we could really do is put pressure on the Nigerian government. I really think that was what the Twitter campaign was all about.
 
Grant said:
Where are the girls? Has Michelle O. made any more announcements?
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Here... just for you. A reminder line from the OP:

ChrisL said:
I know I saw another thread about this, but it is full of partisan bickering. I was hoping to start a thread that is about the Nigerian girls and the things that are being done to rescue them.
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ChrisL said:
Unfortunately new news will always overshadow the old and with the Bowe Bergdahl story, sadly we probably won't hear much about the girls anymore. Short of invading Nigeria and overthrowing Mr. Goodluck, the ONLY thing we could really do is put pressure on the Nigerian government. I really think that was what the Twitter campaign was all about.
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Obama Sends Troops to Chad in Search for Nigeria Girls With Boko Haram - TIME

Kidnapped Nigerian schoolgirls: Australia offers SAS troops to help rescue students taken by Boko Haram - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

They are trying. I'll bet there are tons of closed door negotiations going on.
 
Grant said:
Evidence of this would be that the girls are still not free and have been dropped from the news cycle. But those holding the hashtags can still feel good about themselves.
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....maybe Obama should give a speech or something? That usually works.
 
VanceMack said:
Remember when everyone had a sad and posted selfies because they cared so very much for 'our girls'?

Suspected Boko Haram gunmen kidnap 20 women in Nigeria | Fox News
Boko Haram kidnaps more women near Chibok, reports say | World news | theguardian.com
Boko Haram Kidnaps More Girls in Nigeria - WSJ
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There's nothing more that some people can do. I don't see what the problem is. Of course, most of us aren't going to hear about a lot events that happen in other countries, but that's no reason to cop a tude just because people express sorrow over a sorrowful event. :roll:
 
ChrisL said:
There's nothing more that some people can do. I don't see what the problem is. Of course, most of us aren't going to hear about a lot events that happen in other countries, but that's no reason to cop a tude just because people express sorrow over a sorrowful event. :roll:
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Seriously? So...post a selfie...and...well...



Because...well...I mean really...we 'care'...but...lets not be silly....
 
VanceMack said:
Seriously? So...post a selfie...and...well...



Because...well...I mean really...we 'care'...but...lets not be silly....
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Who was silly about it? Who posted a selfie besides Mrs. Obama? And let's face it, HER selfie could have some type of political clout, seeing that she is the wife of one of the most powerful men in the world.

There is NOTHING silly about showing your support for a cause. What is your issue with it? You prefer silence? Honestly, I do not get it at all what you are objecting to.
 
ChrisL said:
Who was silly about it? Who posted a selfie besides Mrs. Obama? And let's face it, HER selfie could have some type of political clout, seeing that she is the wife of one of the most powerful men in the world.

There is NOTHING silly about showing your support for a cause. What is your issue with it? You prefer silence? Honestly, I do not get it at all what you are objecting to.
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What is silly about it. Hmmm...lets start by 'waiting 5 weeks' before caring. Lets move on to 'I posted a selfie showing I haz a sad...my work here is done'. Of course we can progress to 'Well...dang...nothing huh? Oh well...I didnt really give a **** anyway so no big deal'. And now of course there is 'Wait...they kidnapped another 40 women? 20 more after that? Well...sucks to be them I reckon...I'm sure I have a vacay to plan somewhere..."

And BTW...no...she isnt the only one. There have been several Administration officials posting their 'selfie diplomacy'. Its like the worst form of 'giving a ****' ever. Because...they dont.
 
VanceMack said:
What is silly about it. Hmmm...lets start by 'waiting 5 weeks' before caring. Lets move on to 'I posted a selfie showing I haz a sad...my work here is done'. Of course we can progress to 'Well...dang...nothing huh? Oh well...I didnt really give a **** anyway so no big deal'. And now of course there is 'Wait...they kidnapped another 40 women? 20 more after that? Well...sucks to be them I reckon...I'm sure I have a vacay to plan somewhere..."

And BTW...no...she isnt the only one. There have been several Administration officials posting their 'selfie diplomacy'. Its like the worst form of 'giving a ****' ever. Because...they dont.
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Of course people give a ****. It's all some people can do though, and there's nothing wrong with it. As far as the president and/or his wife participating, THEY could probably do more, but WTF? Why should they do any more than show support and put pressure on the Nigerian government? Personally, I feel terribly about the girls and can't imagine what the parents must be going through and how sucky it must be to live in such a hell hole, but about all I could do is give well wishes. I would rather see their government be pressured into doing it, or perhaps overthrown by the people who are sick and tired of the whole situation. But there is nothing wrong with showing your support, no matter how "terrible" you try and make it sound. :roll:
 
ChrisL said:
Of course people give a ****. It's all some people can do though, and there's nothing wrong with it. As far as the president and/or his wife participating, THEY could probably do more, but WTF? Why should they do any more than show support and put pressure on the Nigerian government? Personally, I feel terribly about the girls and can't imagine what the parents must be going through and how sucky it must be to live in such a hell hole, but about all I could do is give well wishes. I would rather see their government be pressured into doing it, or perhaps overthrown by the people who are sick and tired of the whole situation. But there is nothing wrong with showing your support, no matter how "terrible" you try and make it sound. :roll:
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When is 'support' nothing more than a photo-op....
 
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