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Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

johndylan1 said:
Your complete and utter failure to cite one example shows that you have been defeated here.
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Translation: you got nothing, thanks for playing facts win again. lol
 
johndylan1 said:
If that's the issue, how, pray tell, does sexuality within draft coverage have anything to do with that? Acceptance will be had on the feild with tackles, sacks and interceptions. It's football. That's it.
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It's reporting on the changing times. Cultural evolution is kind of a big deal.
 
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Kobie said:
Feel free to pack up and move to Somalia whenever you're ready.
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So you think you have every right, and there is nothing inappropriate about exposing children to any type of sexuality, let alone homosexuality??

That's what's sick... on top of that, an employee being fined and suspended by his employer for expressing disgust of over something like that?? Agree or disagree with the guy - the more disgusting act is that of the employer, in this case the Miami Dolphins.

Just as with the Baker that refused to bake a gay wedding cake - he had every right to refuse that business, afterall, it's his business; the truly disgusting acts here were by the gay couple that sued, and the court that found in their favor - there upon violating the rights of the baker.

You leftists are bullies - and who wants to live in a society where bullies control the government?? I know I don't... unfortunately, there is nowhere left to run in this sick world - the world has become a prison.
 
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brothern said:
He came out, and within the following days his draft ratings dropped.



Regardless we've got our first gay NFL player. Glass ceiling shattered. Now we don't have to worry about this situation anymore.
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No, you've got your first gay player drafted as a gay player. Dave Kopay, whose last season in the NFL was in 1972, came out of the closet in 1975. No one knew while he was in the League. Just like no one knows that some people may like sex with sheep or goat or dogs. But no one has come out of the closet on that one yet. Hopefully, nobody ever will. This country has sunken about as far as it can with regard to debauchery...
 
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Top Cat said:
I doubt you'd understand since I already told you.
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I already told him also. The Rams got their orders from the commissioner to draft him. No doubt in my mind.
 
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HogWash said:
I already told him also. The Rams got their orders from the commissioner to draft him. No doubt in my mind.
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Prove it.
 
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HogWash said:
No, you've got your first gay player drafted as a gay player. Dave Kopay, whose last season in the NFL was in 1972, came out of the closet in 1975. No one knew while he was in the League. Just like no one knows that some people may like sex with sheep or goat or dogs. But no one has come out of the closet on that one yet. Hopefully, nobody ever will. This country has sunken about as far as it can with regard to debauchery...
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Hold on to your knickers then, b/c these debauched pieces of garbage are just getting started - and I say that as a libertarian who couldn't care less who they screw.

What I do care about is public decency. There are children about, children watching TV, children in the supermarket, etc. I don't, and I know millions upon millions of other parents don't want their children exposed to that type of behavior.

But these homosexuals enjoy the "shock" of it all... and don't care that they may harm children in any way - these people are selfish, obnoxious, bullies; and they have the government backing them up. Eventually, it will literally be illegal to prevent a pervert from molesting my child - that's how sick and arrogant these people are.
 
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HogWash said:
I already told him also. The Rams got their orders from the commissioner to draft him. No doubt in my mind.
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Is there anything else in there? Tin hats all around.
 
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wist43 said:
Hold on to your knickers then, b/c these debauched pieces of garbage are just getting started - and I say that as a libertarian who couldn't care less who they screw.

What I do care about is public decency. There are children about, children watching TV, children in the supermarket, etc. I don't, and I know millions upon millions of other parents don't want their children exposed to that type of behavior.
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What "type of behavior"? It's not like they touched dicks on national TV. A man kissed another man. Big deal. Men and women kiss all the time in front of children.

wist43 said:
But these homosexuals enjoy the "shock" of it all... and don't care that they may harm children in any way - these people are selfish, obnoxious, bullies; and they have the government backing them up. Eventually, it will literally be illegal to prevent a pervert from molesting my child - that's how sick and arrogant these people are.
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Ah, the slippery slope argument from homosexuality to pedophilia. Typical tactic from someone who really doesn't have an argument.

What "harm" does two men kissing inflict on a child?
 
Top Cat said:
Dave Kopay was the first one we know of (64-75)...surely there were others

David Kopay - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think Lance Allworth was gay as well. His nickname was Bambi. LOL
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Naaa, Lance was as straight as they come. He was married to his high school sweetheart, hence he couldn't play football for the Ole Miss Rebels who didn't allow married players. So Lance ended up at Arkansas, playing for Frank Broyles. Bambi was a nickname hung on Lance by teammate Keith Lincoln with the Chargers. You see Lance had big, brown eyes and ran like a deer.
 
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HogWash said:
No, you've got your first gay player drafted as a gay player. Dave Kopay, whose last season in the NFL was in 1972, came out of the closet in 1975. No one knew while he was in the League. Just like no one knows that some people may like sex with sheep or goat or dogs. But no one has come out of the closet on that one yet. Hopefully, nobody ever will. This country has sunken about as far as it can with regard to debauchery...
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Yes, I'm sure the next player that comes out will be into banging dogs. You right wing extremists are entertaining if nothing else. You know you are out there when NP agrees with you.
 
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HogWash said:
No, you've got your first gay player drafted as a gay player. Dave Kopay, whose last season in the NFL was in 1972, came out of the closet in 1975. No one knew while he was in the League. Just like no one knows that some people may like sex with sheep or goat or dogs. But no one has come out of the closet on that one yet. Hopefully, nobody ever will. This country has sunken about as far as it can with regard to debauchery...
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And this guy goes full Duck Dynasty and takes us down that slippery slope from homosexuality to pedophilia! All the Great Moments In Logical Fallacies are on full display today.
 
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wist43 said:
But these homosexuals enjoy the "shock" of it all... and don't care that they may harm children in any way - these people are selfish, obnoxious, bullies; and they have the government backing them up. Eventually, it will literally be illegal to prevent a pervert from molesting my child - that's how sick and arrogant these people are.
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There you have it folks. Homosexuality = pedophilia.

The ignorance of that argument is as clear and concise as a Fred Phelps sermon. Congratulations.
 
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Kobie said:
Prove it.
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What part of no doubt in MY mind do you not understand?
 
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Kobie said:
And this guy goes full Duck Dynasty and takes us down that slippery slope from homosexuality to pedophilia! All the Great Moments In Logical Fallacies are on full display today.
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Geesus, I've already learned something new on here...at least according to Kobby, oops Kobie. He thinks sex with animals is pedophilia. Hey Kob...it's bestiality. equals sex with animals...
 
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HogWash said:
Geesus, I've already learned something new on here...at least according to Kobby, oops Kobie. He thinks sex with animals is pedophilia. Hey Kob...it's bestiality. equals sex with animals...
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Whoops. That is what we call ... a mistake. I was thinking beastiality (not like that you weirdos) but typed pedophilia since that was the subject of my previous response.

As the great Harry Truman once said, "my bad, yo."
 
Kobie said:
It's reporting on the changing times. Cultural evolution is kind of a big deal.
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I'd agree, if it were a tabloid program. This was the NFL draft, sports programming.
 
Kobie said:
It's sports that is culturally evolving.
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As I said earlier sexuality has nothing to do with football. I have never seen anyone getting it on in the endzone (no pun intended), nor on the fifty yard line...
 
johndylan1 said:
As I said earlier sexuality has nothing to do with football. I have never seen anyone getting it on in the endzone (no pun intended), nor on the fifty yard line...
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Sports media has always covered more than the results on the field. The shifting culture of sports has always, always, always been a hot topic.
 
Kobie said:
Sports media has always covered more than the results on the field. The shifting culture of sports has always, always, always been a hot topic.
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Not for me, I rue the day that Bob Costas was hired to feminize the Olympics with personal interest stories. I'd much rather see more events and let the performance do the talking.
 
Kobie said:
It's sports that is culturally evolving.
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shhhhh dont bring up reality some are mistaken and dont think its relevant.
 
johndylan1 said:
Not for me, I rue the day that Bob Costas was hired to feminize the Olympics with personal interest stories. I'd much rather see more events and let the performance do the talking.
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1. I fully agree that the Olympics goes way over the top with the personal interest stuff. I'm not sure how that's "feminizing" them, however.

2. The Sam thing is not remotely in that vein. It's a cultural milestone.
 
We don't need to know which way people perform sex acts.

Keep that self-serving drivel to yourselves.
 
Kobie said:
And this guy goes full Duck Dynasty and takes us down that slippery slope from homosexuality to pedophilia! All the Great Moments In Logical Fallacies are on full display today.
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What do you have against pedophiles, polygamists and those who practice beastiality? They are loving people too and should be allowed to express their love on national TV as well...........you are so bigoted and hateful...
 
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