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Rams select Michael Sam, NFL's first openly gay player [W:282]

Kobie said:
And Richard Dawkins does not speak for all atheists. Richard Dawkins speaks for Richard Dawkins. Don't try to play the guilt by association game.
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Richard Dawkins makes a great point about moral relativity. I'm not saying he speaks for all atheists but if you truly believe in moral relativity it is impossible to condemn any action
 
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votemout said:
comes out say he is gay and he gets the league minimum, still more then most make in 5 years.

But I am done with the National Felons League. and not because of micheal sam
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Guess what? NFL players get arrested less often than adult men as a whole for everything other than weapons charges.

What Do Arrests Data Really Say About NFL Players And Crime?

Compared with their peers, these players were 11 percent less likely to get a DUI (8.3 per thousand compared to 9.4 for adult males), 23 percent less likely to get an assault charge (7.4 vs. 9.6), and 59 percent less likely to get a drug charge (4.2 vs. 10.4). The NFL's problem is the one Bob Costas identified: NFL players were still more than twice as likely as the average man to face a weapons charge (2.2 vs. 1.0).
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The "National Felons League" is a product of media sensationalism, not facts.
 
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Henrin said:
Is it? Most experts were saying before he came out that the chances he would get drafted were very slim. It's entirely likely he was drafted just so the Rams could say they were first in accepting gays.
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This is 100% supposition backed by absolutely nothing factual.
 
Crovax said:
most people don't capitalize God when mocking
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I'm not most people. That was for your consumption. Remember, you think I'm ignorant..willfully I believe. I was raised Catholic, went to catholic school, I was an altar boy whose sister was a Dominican. I'm still recovering.
 
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Kobie said:
This is 100% supposition backed by absolutely nothing factual.
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I seriously doubt he makes that team. Their defensive line is beyond sanity.
 
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Kobie said:
Guess what? NFL players get arrested less often than adult men as a whole for everything other than weapons charges.

What Do Arrests Data Really Say About NFL Players And Crime?



The "National Felons League" is a product of media sensationalism, not facts.
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How do NFL players compare with their peers by income level? Saying that a very financially secure person is not as prone to crime as the average guy is not much of a complement. ;)
 
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rocket88 said:
Just like some are saying that's the only reason he got drafted? If he wasn't drafted he would gave gotten a cheap deal from someone to fill the preseason roster.
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Report: Four teams liked Michael Sam if he want undrafted - CBSSports.com

If the draft had finished without Michael Sam being selected, he would have had an NFL job within about five minutes. This idea that he was "only drafted because he is gay" is utterly stupid on every conceivable level.
 
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Kobie said:
Guess what? NFL players get arrested less often than adult men as a whole for everything other than weapons charges.

What Do Arrests Data Really Say About NFL Players And Crime?



The "National Felons League" is a product of media sensationalism, not facts.
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A lot of crime has to do with poverty, how does the NFL arrest rate compare with other adult males making in the top 1% of salaries?
 
Top Cat said:
I'm not most people. That was for your consumption. Remember, you think I'm ignorant..willfully I believe. I was raised Catholic, went to catholic school, I was an altar boy whose sister was a Dominican. I'm still recovering.
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I know you are ignorant if you actually think that Christians want anal and oral sex criminalized
 
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Del Zeppnile said:
He's not really a very good ballplayer, the only reason he was in the news is because he is a homosexual.


This story is a big yawn.
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He was SEC Co-Defensive Player of the Year.
 
Crovax said:
I know you are ignorant if you actually think that Christians want anal and oral sex criminalized
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Oh I know plenty that do. I also know plenty that take it in the ass. But hey, we can't all be as enlightened as you. Honestly, you represent what is so repugnant about the so many Christians. The "our interpretation of morality is what is good for all others" attitude.
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
How do NFL players compare with their peers by income level? Saying that a very financially secure person is not as prone to crime as the average guy is not much of a complement. ;)
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The average career is but 3 years so it's impossible to compare really.
 
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Top Cat said:
I seriously doubt he makes that team. Their defensive line is beyond sanity.
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He probably won't.
 
Top Cat said:
There are plenty of good walk the walk Christians. The point of the quote was simple. People who call themselves Christians like you that are so quick to judge and condemn others are precisely the ones that quote was written for...

What would Christ do?
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Saying sin is wrong is not condemning people. So please get a better argument.

As for what Christ would do, read Revelation chapter 2 to see how he judges sexual immorality.
 
OnWisconsin said:
That assumes that you take that piece of junk book seriously. Morality is relative, not universal.

For a book that touts itself as being righteous it sure does like talking about sodomy a lot.
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And who are you that I should listen to your folly?
 
Top Cat said:
We can do this all day...

Spare me the nonsense from your book of fictional fairy tales.Even the founding fathers were smart enough to leave God out of the constitution.
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There's another one of your fairy tales.

The Constitution is dated in “the year of our Lord," 1787.
 
Logicman said:
There's another one of your fairy tales.

The Constitution is dated in “the year of our Lord," 1787.
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Which is the English way of saying "A.D." If that's all you got, you don't have much.
 
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rocket88 said:
The players in the big programs are just as pro as anybody. They just don't get to cash in until the NFL calls.
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Think so?
 
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Thrilla said:
oh?.. do tell... why should the sex lives of athletes be relevant to the sport?
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It simply means equality for all
 
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Thrilla said:
oh?.. do tell... why should the sex lives of athletes be relevant to the sport?
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Homosexuality is more than just "his sex life." When people boil the whole concept of love, attraction and commitment down to "his sex life," then all it proves is they truly don't understand anything about the subject.
 
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RogueWarrior said:
Co-winner defensive player of the year for the SEC
I wonder when the other winner got drafted.

Ahh google is my friend

CJ Mosley 17th pick first round versus 249th

Just an observation, not a criticism.
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Sam wasn't even the best defensive end in the SEC. Jadeveon Clowney was, the number 1 pick in the draft.
 
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