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FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

j-mac said:
You have one guy, that may or may not be pointing his weapon at a specific target...hard to say. He may just be posing for the press. Who knows? Maybe some liberal puke photographer asked him to pose like that.
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Shame on that "liberal puke photographer" for taking a picture. Such cartoonish thinking...
 
apdst said:
The Libbos wanted bussing. You got it. Don't complain about it.
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Funny, didn't see anything about unions in there. I guess that's not worth mentioning. What about all the administrators? A city like Newark has over 400 administrators making over $100k a year.

Oh, and let's not pretend that metal detectors are there to catch the law abiding citizens, or that they wouldn't be needed if there was no 2nd amendment.
 
beefheart said:
Well, aren't we snide? No..the story is that some self styled "patriots" want to play pretend posse and shoot some feds. They do that, they will be met with ovewhelming force. And the collective IQ of the nation will go up a bit.
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You know, I'll just bet, maybe I'd lose it but, I'd bet the feds took pictures of all the people who showed at the Bundy thing, and they're probably comparing the photos with other photos to see if any showed up at other events. Ohhh, my imagination is running wild now! Gosh I'd love to be a FBI agent!
 
AJiveMan said:
You know, I'll just bet, maybe I'd lose it but, I'd bet the feds took pictures of all the people who showed at the Bundy thing, and they're probably comparing the photos with other photos to see if any showed up at other events. Ohhh, my imagination is running wild now! Gosh I'd love to be a FBI agent!
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They need this guy to come back!

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Dittohead not! said:
It's the Republican's fault that Obama won two elections. In '08 they ran a candidate who was associated with the failed policies of the past administration, this despite his calling himself a "maverick". In '12 they ran the best qualified candidate in a very long time, but somehow weren't able to rally behind him and get him elected. He wasn't "conservative" enough for a lot of them.

And where has Obama threatened to impose martial law? That's an idea out of the pages of the wacky conspiracy theorists if I've ever see one.
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I want to visit a FEMA camp designed for political dissidents! :roll:
 
apdst said:
I don't have a problem paying taxes, however I insist that the government manage that money a hell-of-a-lot better than they do.

State Dept. misplaced $6B under Hillary Clinton: IG report - Washington Times

Politics News and U.S. Elections Coverage - ABC News

EPA paid nearly $500,000 in unauthorized bonuses, watchdog finds | Fox News
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If you think governments waste a lot of money, check the amount of money that corporations waste. For instance, how many government officials - who often have oversight of tens or even hundreds of billions of dollars of our federal budget - have a salary of $1M or more per year? Very, very few. But I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a CEO of a major corporation who has a salary of less than $10M/year. And then there's Learjets and resorts and stock options.

Is there waste and fraud in government? Absolutely, and we have to remain vigilant to root it out wherever it's found. But do not pretend that the corporate world isn't much worse...because the corporate world gets MUCH less oversight from the press than the government gets.
 
beefheart said:
Shame on that "liberal puke photographer" for taking a picture. Such cartoonish thinking...
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No, shame on liberal statists using a staged photo to craft a false narrative about an entire group in favor of government thugs.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
If you think governments waste a lot of money, check the amount of money that corporations waste. For instance, how many government officials - who often have oversight of tens or even hundreds of billions of dollars of our federal budget - have a salary of $1M or more per year? Very, very few. But I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a CEO of a major corporation who has a salary of less than $10M/year. And then there's Learjets and resorts and stock options.

Is there waste and fraud in government? Absolutely, and we have to remain vigilant to root it out wherever it's found. But do not pretend that the corporate world isn't much worse...because the corporate world gets MUCH less oversight from the press than the government gets.
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Corporations and government are two separate things. I hope you know the difference.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
If you think governments waste a lot of money, check the amount of money that corporations waste. For instance, how many government officials - who often have oversight of tens or even hundreds of billions of dollars of our federal budget - have a salary of $1M or more per year? Very, very few. But I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a CEO of a major corporation who has a salary of less than $10M/year. And then there's Learjets and resorts and stock options.

Is there waste and fraud in government? Absolutely, and we have to remain vigilant to root it out wherever it's found. But do not pretend that the corporate world isn't much worse...because the corporate world gets MUCH less oversight from the press than the government gets.
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Corporations waste THEIR money. The government wastes my money, then demands that I need to give them more than I already do.

Therin lies the difference.
 
j-mac said:
No, shame on liberal statists using a staged photo to craft a false narrative about an entire group in favor of government thugs.
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Really? Those darn liberals and their cameras.

Such a cartoon like black and white world you inhabit.
 
CalGun said:
Janet Reno is an idiot yet, but had nothing to do with Ruby Ridge it was a small group of thug agents within the BATF (NOT FBI) that entrapped Weaver. .
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I concur Janet Reno is an idiot. When you read the 9-11 Commision Report and weigh all the evidence it was Janet Reno who ****ed up big time and her actions allowed 9-11 to happen.

But I digress.

The former ATAF Resident Agent for Orange County, Ca. during the 1980's was a acquaintance of mine. There was no problem with the ATAF back then. They got along with sportsmen, gun owners and gun shop owners. Then they overnight seemed to have been politicized in 1993 and became Gestapo like.
 
Luftwaffe said:
I have figured it out, but you continue this fruitless labeling that is bringing us to the verge of an argument (not debate mind you, argument). And no one is questioning you for anything. Moot wasn't even referring to you and you're at this point just trying so hard to speak with people who wish to not associate with you, a man who has this irrational hatred for all progressives.

You may as well be gone with your bigotry. You're plain-viewed bigotry that is so large it may as well engulf this entire thread.
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Of course it's an argument, because authoritarians have destroyed societies and killed lots of people and I don't want to see history repeated again.

The problem is that most progressives are authoritarian and hence cant stand to see anyone believe in something different - however that isn't the major flaw in progressive ideology - the major flaw is that they just make **** up and believe it about the opposition.

For example I was just watching a youtube video about a "white privilege conference" - in what universe are whites privileged? the truth of the matter is that some clowns actually buy that idea and go out of their way to discriminate against whites - it's absolutely disgusting.

The entire premise of progressive ideology - at least by the sheeple - is that of hate.

Progressives hate me because they believe I'm racist, which is ironic considering progressives claim they stand for tolerance and claim hate is wrong, yet they will do everything in their power to hate me and assure that my logical ideas are never heard..

Progressives are some of the most aggressive hatemongers around - and they mean business with their hate - they take their hate to a whole new level.
 
Hard to believe the FBI would investigate potential criminal activity.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
Hard to believe the FBI would investigate potential criminal activity.
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…who got their marching orders from Eric Holder who was asked by Harry Reid to do so.

The F.B.I., like any agency, gets used as a political tool with every administration.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Of course it's an argument, because authoritarians have destroyed societies and killed lots of people and I don't want to see history repeated again.

The problem is that most progressives are authoritarian and hence cant stand to see anyone believe in something different - however that isn't the major flaw in progressive ideology - the major flaw is that they just make **** up and believe it about the opposition.

For example I was just watching a youtube video about a "white privilege conference" - in what universe are whites privileged? the truth of the matter is that some clowns actually buy that idea and go out of their way to discriminate against whites - it's absolutely disgusting.

The entire premise of progressive ideology - at least by the sheeple - is that of hate.

Progressives hate me because they believe I'm racist, which is ironic considering progressives claim they stand for tolerance and claim hate is wrong, yet they will do everything in their power to hate me and assure that my logical ideas are never heard..

Progressives are some of the most aggressive hatemongers around - and they mean business with their hate - they take their hate to a whole new level.
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Yes, those proggies, gotta watch out for them proggies, they just hate idiots. But, what's so wrong with hating idiots that don tin foil hats?
 
Mr.Nick said:
Yeah and what "criminal activity" is that?
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Threatening federal agents with firearms? Death threats?

Do you think there should be no type of police force of criminal investigatory body?
 
apdst said:
Corporations waste THEIR money. The government wastes my money, then demands that I need to give them more than I already do.

Therin lies the difference.
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Um, no, corporations waste YOUR money, too, in every government contract they take - such as privately-owned prisons, defense contractors, road and highway construction, charter schools, office supplies for tens of thousands of government offices, electricity for all those offices, fuel for every government and defense vehicle on the planet...you name it. And then there's something called "Big Pharma"...and thanks to Bush's Medicare Part D, Medicare's not allowed to negotiate for lower prices - they have to pay whatever price Big Pharma decides to set.

Yes sir, that's ALL your money.

In fact, try finding a government agency that does not buy heaps and heaps of product from corporations. Betcha can't.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
Threatening federal agents with firearms? Death threats?

Do you think there should be no type of police force of criminal investigatory body?
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Of course not - that's the conservative fantasy of REAL freedom, to ignore the laws of the land and to point loaded weapons at those who are tasked with enforcing said laws.
 
j-mac said:
Corporations and government are two separate things. I hope you know the difference.
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I copied and pasted the reply below from what I told someone else who tried to make the same point you just did:

Um, no, corporations waste YOUR money, too, in every government contract they take - such as privately-owned prisons, defense contractors, road and highway construction, charter schools, office supplies for tens of thousands of government offices, electricity for all those offices, fuel for every government and defense vehicle on the planet...you name it. And then there's something called "Big Pharma"...and thanks to Bush's Medicare Part D, Medicare's not allowed to negotiate for lower prices - they have to pay whatever price Big Pharma decides to set.

Yes sir, that's ALL your money.

In fact, try finding a government agency that does not buy heaps and heaps of product from corporations. Betcha can't.
 
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