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FBI investigating Bundy supporters in BLM dispute[W:338]

I love how libertarians are branded as trigger-happy southern rednecks that own thousands of guns and have a 3rd grade education.

Libertarians must be pissed that you would pretend they're represented by "there ain't no federal gubmint!" folk.
 
I also watched the whole thing unfold on TV. A panel of arson investigators concluded that the Davidians were responsible for igniting it, simultaneously, in at least three different areas of the compound. The videotapes show the use of accelerants that increased the spread of the fire. Although one Branch Davidian stated that a FBI tank had tipped over a lantern, videotapes show that the tank had struck the building a minute and a half before the fire began. Also some of the surviving Davidians' clothing showed evidence of lighter fluid and other accelerants.

You never saw the uncensored TV feed - what you saw was what CNN, NBC, CBS etc showed you - the same networks that are pro-government. They're not going to show you the FBI/ATF lighting the place on fire.
 
You never saw the uncensored TV feed - what you saw was what CNN, NBC, CBS etc showed you - the same networks that are pro-government. They're not going to show you the FBI/ATF lighting the place on fire.
I'd bet my favorite Martin Guitar and Shure Microphone that whatever 'footage' you have isn't what you think it is.
 
Or drug addicts.

I laugh at that too.... I know plenty of libertarians who don't use drugs. Of course they're against the criminalization of some drugs but just because they take that noble position doesn't mean they use them.

As a matter of fact - this is the easiest way to tell why a progressive or RINO adheres to the politics they do - because they believe people support policies that they would benefit from - hence in their minds a person who supports the legalization/decriminalization of pot (for example) must smoke weed themselves...

Now I admit that I smoke pot occasionally, however my occasional pot smoking has nothing to do with my ideas of decriminalizing the "drug" - weed is so damn easy to get and abundant it doesn't matter if it's legal or not... Not to mention most LEO's don't even care about weed anyways unless they really don't like you and WANT to arrest you.

Whatever tho...

People with all political philosophies get high so it's not exactly a concept that is unique to one brand of politics.
 
So, when we have people who confront law enforcement with guns in order to keep them from evicting a freeloader who refuses to pay for the use of federal lands, who offer to put their women on the front lines so that, should the shooting start, the agents will look bad for shooting them (remember: Taliban) then the FBI is likely to want to investigate those people.

Who saw that one coming?

Was the FBI all over the Occutards?
 
I'd bet my favorite Martin Guitar and Shure Microphone that whatever 'footage' you have isn't what you think it is.

I highly doubt you will give up your Martin if I prove you wrong.

I have the tapes - over 100 of them, which I should upload.

What year Martin do you have anyways?

I have a 38 D-28, and my dad has several Martins.

I bought mine at a garage sale for 15 bucks and it's probably worth 1000x that.
 
You must detest all of the welfare recipients in this country then.

"All welfare recipients" are not breaking the law and stealing those benefits.
 
"All welfare recipients" are not breaking the law and stealing those benefits.

Either welfare is legal, or it isn't. You can't have it both way.

He isn't receving "welfare", and you know it. What he's doing is using someone else's property and not paying for it.

If he's breaking the law (stealing is illegal, you know), when are they going to arrest him?
 
Either welfare is legal, or it isn't. You can't have it both way.

He isn't receving "welfare", and you know it. What he's doing is using someone else's property and not paying for it.

If he's breaking the law (stealing is illegal, you know), when are they going to arrest him?

Not all punishments involve arrest. He should be placed under arrest and his property confiscated to pay off what he owes. That terrible overreaching government has elected not to do so. So far, anyway.
 
I highly doubt you will give up your Martin if I prove you wrong.

I have the tapes - over 100 of them, which I should upload.

What year Martin do you have anyways?

I have a 38 D-28, and my dad has several Martins.

I bought mine at a garage sale for 15 bucks and it's probably worth 1000x that.
A 38 Bone is a holy grail Martin. The only vintage one that I have is a 1940 0-15. All hog. Anyways starting the fire themselves was pre planned and consistent with the Branch Davidians theology. They bought diesel a month before the siege plus there's the testimonials of survivors Clive Doyle and Graeme Craddock.
 
Not all punishments involve arrest. He should be placed under arrest and his property confiscated to pay off what he owes. That terrible overreaching government has elected not to do so. So far, anyway.

Does the federal government make it a habit to not arrest people who they know are committing crimes?
 
If I ignore multiple court orders and ignore the law for decades, and am armed myself? Yeah, I think it's fine for them to carry a rifle.

It's not a double standard. Bundy was breaking the law, the federal agents were enforcing it.

So, the 2nd Amendment doesn't apply?
 
"All welfare recipients" are not breaking the law and stealing those benefits.

I've always had a problem with the word "all" - of course not all who are on welfare rape the program but many do, however the problem is that within the progressive philosophy if a single person is helped by welfare that justifies the thousands that take advantage of the program - just because one person is helped.

Also, every government social program is abused because a lot of people - especially the poor - will take as much as they can get.

I know what it's like growing up poor and living hand to mouth, but my parents never did anything immoral to get out of that rut - no they had a plan and stuck with it and progressively bettered my life and my siblings lives via dedication to their jobs..

I suppose my point is - living off the taxpayers is easy but finding success takes lots of work and dedication.

Also, it pains me to see some people label successful people as "greedy" - most aren't greedy and most worked very hard to be where they're at in life.

Wanting a better life for yourself and your family is not greed - however it is greed when you expect the government to hand it to you "just because to level the playing field."
 
Did the OCW interfere or make threats to federal agents in the execution of a court order?

There was all manner of criminal activity among the Occutard ranks.
 
Does the federal government make it a habit to not arrest people who they know are committing crimes?

No, I think some cops enjoy arresting people.

This is why I generally don't like cops.

I know there are plenty of cops that are patriots and good libertarians and don't view every individual they contact as a potential "bad guy" but there are plenty of cops that view every non-cop as a "bad guy."

To digress a little bit - 90% of the people arrested are not "bad guys."
 
Well, aren't we snide? No..the story is that some self styled "patriots" want to play pretend posse and shoot some feds. They do that, they will be met with ovewhelming force. And the collective IQ of the nation will go up a bit.

Still not reading the article I see....
 
"All welfare recipients" are not breaking the law and stealing those benefits.

A significant amount of them are, to the tune of billions of dollars. Why arent you screaming about that?
 
No, I think some cops enjoy arresting people.

This is why I generally don't like cops.

I know there are plenty of cops that are patriots and good libertarians and don't view every individual they contact as a potential "bad guy" but there are plenty of cops that view every non-cop as a "bad guy."

To digress a little bit - 90% of the people arrested are not "bad guys."

Okay, but the poster said that Bundy was stealing and committing crimes against the federal government. I was asking him if it's common practice for our government to not arrest people who they know are committing crimes. It wasn't anything about policemen.
 
A 38 Bone is a holy grail Martin. The only vintage one that I have is a 1940 0-15. All hog. Anyways starting the fire themselves was pre planned and consistent with the Branch Davidians theology. They bought diesel a month before the siege plus there's the testimonials of survivors Clive Doyle and Graeme Craddock.

I'm not really a guitar collector but I come from a family - both immediate and extended - of musicians so I knew what it was.

If it matters the woman who sold me the guitar didn't even want to sell me the Martin unless I bought 6 other guitars so it was a lot for 100 bucks.

I generally go to garage sales to find interesting items and antiques and if I'm lucky vintage sports cards.

At any rate the Martin is in my dads recording studio - I own it but he loves displaying it. The only problem with the guitar is that the neck is slightly warped, however that can be fixed.

Also, the Martin came it the coolest case - very awesome and a good find.
 
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