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U.S. Supreme Court declines new gun regulations challenge

Thrilla said:
your opinion of me, necessarily formed without fact or knowledge, is of no concern.
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My opinion is based solely on what the carelessness you were bragging about. If you didn't want to share that information, you shouldn't have typed it. You did, you exposed yourself.
 
Summerwind said:
My opinion is based solely on what the carelessness you were bragging about. If you didn't want to share that information, you shouldn't have typed it. You did, you exposed yourself.
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well, at least we agree your opinion of me is not based on facts or knowledge..
 
notquiteright said:
If I was into personal attacks I'd have asked you and anyone wanting restrictions on firearm ownership. Instead I instead of point out fear of your fellow citizen- to the extreme of fearing biker gangs assaulting the old homeplace- was used to 'justify' ARs and high cap mags...

I'd say the 'gun nuts' show a level of stupidity all their own.... :peace
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NOn relevant
 
TurtleDude said:
NOn relevant
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Oh to the CONtrary- you asked about fearing your fellow citizens and I just pointed out YOU used that fear upped to an extreme in an attempt to justify owning ARs and high cap mags...

just saying that thing about Geese, ganders and gravy comes to mind...
 
notquiteright said:
Oh to the CONtrary- you asked about fearing your fellow citizens and I just pointed out YOU used that fear upped to an extreme in an attempt to justify owning ARs and high cap mags...

just saying that thing about Geese, ganders and gravy comes to mind...
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Look dude

most of the stuff you post on gun politics is nothing more than a passive aggressive attack on pro gun posters who tire of the Democrat Party's attacks on gun rights. I get tired of you projecting your phobias on to the rest of us or insinuating that those of us who think all free citizens of age ought to be able to own the same rifle as our tax dollars supply the military and the civilian police departments.
 
Winchester said:
I personally would like to see a lawsuit challenging the need for a CCW permit in the first place.
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Totally friggin agree bro. Why do I need to be licensed to carry a gun? I just moved to a state the takes up to 90 days to process a CC permit. Meanwhile, I have one of two choices. 1) Not carry and have mine and my family's lives in danger 2) Break the law and carry and protect my family. No American should ever be presented with that dilemma. I should be able to carry however I want, regardless of state laws. I am all about state's rights, however, I'm not a fan of a state infringing on my constitutional rights with their own version of what keep and bear arms means. I'm good with a background check (no wait period). They are so fast at this point, it shouldn't be an issue. After that, I should be able to carry whatever I want, however I want.
 
TurtleDude said:
Look dude most of the stuff you post on gun politics is nothing more than a passive aggressive attack on pro gun posters who tire of the Democrat Party's attacks on gun rights. I get tired of you projecting your phobias on to the rest of us or insinuating that those of us who think all free citizens of age ought to be able to own the same rifle as our tax dollars supply the military and the civilian police departments.
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Not insinuating a damn thing Dude, YOU have claimed repeatedly you should be able to own what Commissioned Law Enforcement and the military are issued. YOU used the 'biker gang assault' in a CON attempt to justify owning such weapons and the high cap mag.

In this thread you use the 'fear of your fellow citizen' on some one apparently for firearm regulations when you have used the EXACT same 'fear' to justify military weaponry... :doh

Hoisted on your own petard and all that sort of thing.
 
Summerwind said:
I tried, Idaho didn't want the information until after my handgun was stolen because I left it at home to enter a "gun-free" zone on a day I was burgled. Then they wanted that information, not until though. I did try.
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Out of curiosity, did they get it from your safe or biometric lock?
 
TurtleDude said:
Look dude

most of the stuff you post on gun politics is nothing more than a passive aggressive attack on pro gun posters who tire of the Democrat Party's attacks on gun rights. I get tired of you projecting your phobias on to the rest of us or insinuating that those of us who think all free citizens of age ought to be able to own the same rifle as our tax dollars supply the military and the civilian police departments.
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That about covers it.

Uneducated fear and ignorance by him that must be applied to the rest of us.

He just needs to take his huge bag of fear and step aside and let normal folks play through.
 
Paxaeon said:
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Wrong. Ideologically extreme men with guns will shoot to kill another man who took an oath to follow the law. Society just saw an example of the gun totting people at the Bundy ranch. There is much to fear when ignorance has a gun in its hand.
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Like FBI agents at Ruby Ridge.
 
Summerwind said:
Those were required in Idaho, so yes, I completed an FBI check and a gun safety/laws/usage course. Can you not read? How bizarre that you are asking what's been clearly discussed. I also did so in Washington though someone has suggested I didn't need to.
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You do need the background check in WA. Just no training, safety, etc courses.
 
notquiteright said:
In general it is best to never say in general. ;)

High altitude engagements in a densely packed thin skin tube is rather unique. High stress, difficult shot scenarios do require far more training than the average CCW graduate possesses. Many advanced classes have the student put into a high stress engagement to struggle- not being mean but to show there is a bit to know, practice and commit to muscle memory.

far more difficult to ingrain is the so-called 'killer instinct' as it really is neither in a well trained person. Funny the times a highly trained shootist is a miserable failure at 'sealing the deal' when in a deadly encounter. The time honored double or triple tap is quickly forgotten and it is back to target practice 'shoot and observe' one round at a time.

But a citizen with no real training in the 'gun-fight' or history of mental defect will fire multiple rounds to include a coup de grace in multiple people.

So best to in general never say in general... :peace
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So in the airplane scenario. Good, that's all I asked.
 
Summerwind said:
My opinion is based solely on what the carelessness you were bragging about. If you didn't want to share that information, you shouldn't have typed it. You did, you exposed yourself.
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What carelessness did he write about?
 
Summerwind said:
Those were required in Idaho, so yes, I completed an FBI check and a gun safety/laws/usage course. Can you not read? How bizarre that you are asking what's been clearly discussed. I also did so in Washington though someone has suggested I didn't need to.
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you don't need. that's the law. the only requirements in WA are fingerprints and a check.... no training is required for WA's CPL (which I think is a good thing.... licenses should be easy if the state requires them)
 
SMTA said:
That about covers it.

Uneducated fear and ignorance by him that must be applied to the rest of us.

He just needs to take his huge bag of fear and step aside and let normal folks play through.
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I get tired of people who pretend to be pro gun but feel a need to bash real pro gun posters because we have no use for the Democrat party's constant war on gun owners.
 
TurtleDude said:
I get tired of people who pretend to be pro gun but feel a need to bash real pro gun posters because we have no use for the Democrat party's constant war on gun owners.
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I personally know many Dems who are pro-gun and CCW.

The problem is the blind and ignorant hardcore followers who sing the party songs without understanding their meaning.

Mindless sheep.....uneducated morons.
 
SMTA said:
I personally know many Dems who are pro-gun and CCW.

The problem is the blind and ignorant hardcore followers who sing the party songs without understanding their meaning.

Mindless sheep.....uneducated morons.
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there are two kinds

1) those who say-Yeah My party is anti gun but gun rights aren't as important to me as say

a) what my union wants
b) gay or abortion issues

2) and then you have those who

a) deny that the Democrats are any worse than the GOP (normally what I will get is hours hearing about how Reagan signed the Hughes Amendment or how some GOP assholes like Danforth or Cave in Kasich (who switched his vote after Clinton promised to sign the Kasich-Penney BRCA) also voted for the AWB

b) claim that the Dems are actually more pro gun than the GOP

the second group I have no use for

the first group at least are honest that gun rights aren't that important to them
 
TurtleDude said:
there are two kinds

1) those who say-Yeah My party is anti gun but gun rights aren't as important to me as say

a) what my union wants
b) gay or abortion issues
C) Understand that gun rights is such a live wire issue that any real strict laws are so unlikely to pass that focusing on issues such as the vanishing middle class and growing corporate power in the government is the more important fight
the first group at least are honest that gun rights aren't that important to them
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there fixed it for ya.
 
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