High school senior class prank leads to 62 arrests

Fearandloathing · May 1, 2014

polgara said:
You have given me some excellent ideas for our next April Fools Day! I'm going to bookmark them - especially the Blu Cheese one! How can something smell so bad and still be deliberately crumbled over a salad as a preferred dressing? Lots of wine helps, I guess!

i should have used limberger...it's worse.

And cheaper

You can make blu cheese.

Take a whole bunch of cottage cheese, mash it together in a sock and leave it in the basement for six months.

All that blue stuff is mold...

The Mark · May 1, 2014

I could see taping hotdogs to lockers and greasing doorknobs as a prank.

Pissing on the floor is something else entirely.

Robbie Loucks · May 1, 2014

Okay, this goes too far for a school prank. It's one thing to break into the school and do something silly like, I don't know, place cups of water everywhere in the hallways. That's something I wouldn't condemn my classmates for doing. I would probably engage in the prank myself. However, going as far as trashing your own school like that is too far. I hope they have to clean that place up.

DiAnna · May 1, 2014

ttwtt78640 said:
A juvenile record is not widely accessible and will act as a reminder that future mayhem, as a juvenile, will exact a higher cost as you are then a repeat offender. Allowing crimes to slide is not wise, sometimes "tough love" leaves a mark.

They were high school seniors. Some, if not most of them were 18 yrs old, legally adult in the eyes of the law. No juvie record for them; permanent adult record.

coyotedelmar · May 1, 2014

I'd agree with others, some sort of fine, community service, and maybe doing work around the school as well. As long as they meet the conditions, expunge the records (as far as I could see that is possible with adult or juvie records). If they don't, then maybe look at jail (a few days or so, lets not go crazy) and keep the record.

Aunt Spiker · May 1, 2014

longview said:
I think maybe some creative sentencing is called for.
Make the kids pay for the supplies, and do the cleanup them selves.
NO parental help, no power tools, all elbow grease.

Community service! Love it.

ttwtt78640 · May 1, 2014

DiAnna said:
They were high school seniors. Some, if not most of them were 18 yrs old, legally adult in the eyes of the law. No juvie record for them; permanent adult record.

Good. Welcome to Earth, third rock from the sun, where criminal actions have lasting consequences. Don't do the crime and you won't do the time.

year2late · May 1, 2014

Aunt Spiker said:
Community service! Love it.

Xtreme community service.

I think what needs to be looked at is how they were able to orchestrate - you know their personal electronics were probably very "helpful".

I say in addition to full on cleanup, Negotiate a disarmament - adjust their phones to only call parental and 911.No text, no web.

Linc · May 2, 2014

The clientele of the Teaneck 62 will matter--it always does.
I suspect some of them were suffering from "AFFLUENZA", and a big-time lawyer will get them off.

62 Seniors on a Thursday night--nice parent control there.
I'd like to see what the pranks have been here in previous years, as teenagers specialize in outdoing stupid .

ttwtt78640 said:
Good. Welcome to Earth, third rock from the sun, where criminal actions have lasting consequences. Don't do the crime and you won't do the time.

roguenuke · May 2, 2014

ttwtt78640 said:
No, that is not burglary that is breaking and entering but the bigger offense is the destruction of property. Thousands of dollars in damages, even divided by 62, is the serious crime and does not even require proof that the doors were locked.

Actually, you're wrong. It is burglary because they went into the building illegally with the explicit intent to commit an offense, vandalism and/or destruction of property. Burglary, despite popular belief, does not just cover theft. It can include any crime as long as someone has entered into a building just to break some law.

Burglary - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Burglary Overview - FindLaw

Burglary is typically defined as the unlawful entry into almost any structure (not just a home or business) with the intent to commit any crime inside (not just theft/larceny). - See more at: Burglary Overview - FindLaw

Learned this in my criminal justice classes. Took a lot of people, including myself by surprise too that this was the actual legal definition of burglary because most people assume that burglary must include some sort of theft.

roguenuke · May 2, 2014

As for punishment, I feel that definitely community service should be "awarded" to all plus some sort of fine. At the very least, between them they should have to pay for any costs the school has had to spend to clean this up. Probably should be more.

1750Texan · May 2, 2014

ttwtt78640 said:
A juvenile record is not widely accessible and will act as a reminder that future mayhem, as a juvenile, will exact a higher cost as you are then a repeat offender. Allowing crimes to slide is not wise, sometimes "tough love" leaves a mark.

...what is the deciding factor? Its a parent job to give tough love...not the judicial system.

How should one decide if one kid deserves not to have a "mark" on their record, and one that does not deserve that same consideration?

American · May 2, 2014

Ockham said:
They should know better - that in today's world a prank means jail time. Yes they were just being kids. It was a high school prank but there is no common sense nor sense of humor nor way for kids to innocently express themselves any longer in our society. Zero tolerance means these kids will probably be suspended perhaps for the rest of the year, seniors will not be allowed to graduate with their class, they may be charged with juvenile misdemeanors depending on the damage - maybe light felony's. The days of pranks during or at school went away last in the 1980's, probably never to return.

I can forgive all but pissing on the floors. That needs punishment of cleaning the halls 3 times a week for six months.

Jerry · May 2, 2014

Dragonfly said:
High school senior class prank leads to 62 arrests

Thoughts on punishments here.

Should parents be held accountable?
Legal arrest records?
Official charges?

Just a high school prank?

Let kids go with a wrist slap?

They're just being kids?

Enough is enough with these young punks - throw the book at them?

Through the book at them, let them learn this lesson hard now before they find themselves in positions of importance.

MaggieD · May 2, 2014

Dragonfly said:
High school senior class prank leads to 62 arrests

Thoughts on punishments here.

Should parents be held accountable?
Legal arrest records?
Official charges?

Just a high school prank?

Let kids go with a wrist slap?

They're just being kids?

Enough is enough with these young punks - throw the book at them?

Malicious Mischief or some-such charge. Parents held accountable for damages because no responsible parent has high school kids running around at 2 AM in the morning on a school night (especially). Permanent juvenile record.

ttwtt78640 · May 2, 2014

1750Texan said:
...what is the deciding factor? Its a parent job to give tough love...not the judicial system.

How should one decide if one kid deserves not to have a "mark" on their record, and one that does not deserve that same consideration?

Evidence is the deciding factor thus we have trials/hearings. If the evidence presented by the state indicates that the accused violated the law then a judge, or in some cases a jury, decides their fate. The accused are quite welcome to plead their case, offer any evidence that may counter that of the state and dispute the charges.

1750Texan · May 2, 2014

ttwtt78640 said:
Evidence is the deciding factor thus we have trials/hearings. If the evidence presented by the state indicates that the accused violated the law then a judge, or in some cases a jury, decides their fate. The accused are quite welcome to plead their case, offer any evidence that may counter that of the state and dispute the charges.

You are giving me a lesson in judicial procedure...not an explanation of what I asked concerning your comment that procecution [tough love]would leave a mark on their record.

ttwtt78640 · May 2, 2014

1750Texan said:
You are giving me a lesson in judicial procedure...not an explanation of what I asked concerning your comment that procecution [tough love]would leave a mark on their record.

Records are kept on criminal convictions - why is that concept hard for you to grasp?

Jerry · May 2, 2014

Deuce said:
Stupid law enforcement. Stepping in when a crime has been committed. How dare they.

Maybe they should ambush the faculty in the morning, rape a few women teachers and beat some of the men using baseball bats, you know, just as a prank, because kids will be kids :mrgreen:

Mason66 · May 2, 2014

Dragonfly said:
High school senior class prank leads to 62 arrests

Thoughts on punishments here.

Should parents be held accountable?
Legal arrest records?
Official charges?

Just a high school prank?

Let kids go with a wrist slap?

They're just being kids?

Enough is enough with these young punks - throw the book at them?

There is no such thing as a high school prank.

it is criminal behavior and should be treated as such.

lawboy · May 2, 2014

roguenuke said:
Actually, you're wrong. It is burglary because they went into the building illegally with the explicit intent to commit an offense, vandalism and/or destruction of property. Burglary, despite popular belief, does not just cover theft.

State specific, but NJ does not have a B & E statute, just Burglary.

As a comparative example, Ohio has both.

2C:18-2. Burglary. a. Burglary defined. A person is guilty of burglary if, with purpose to commit an offense therein or thereon he:

(1) Enters a research facility, structure, or a separately secured or occupied portion thereof unless the structure was at the time open to the public or the actor is licensed or privileged to enter;

l Learned this in my criminal justice classes. Took a lot of people, including myself by surprise too that this was the actual legal definition of burglary because most people assume that burglary must include some sort of theft.

Criminal law is my field also and whatever the state defines it as it is, not what a general definition is.

1750Texan · May 3, 2014

ttwtt78640 said:
Records are kept on criminal convictions - why is that concept hard for you to grasp?

record keeping was not the idea you were putting forth. If you can not argue for your centention...that's ok.

ttwtt78640 · May 3, 2014

1750Texan said:
record keeping was not the idea you were putting forth. If you can not argue for your centention...that's ok.

That was exactly my contention, the "mark" that I referred to was a criminal conviction record.

1750Texan · May 3, 2014

ttwtt78640 said:
That was exactly my contention, the "mark" that I referred to was a criminal conviction record.

Just back track to where I commented on you post. It is important in a discussion to keep the original contention and counter in mind...The begining is a good start.

ttwtt78640 · May 3, 2014

1750Texan said:
Just back track to where I commented on you post. It is important in a discussion to keep the original contention and counter in mind...The begining is a good start.

Post #36 was the beginning of this and its first words were "A juvenile record" - how was that not my "original contention"? You originally wanted to know who gets to decide when one receives that record and it went on (far too long) from there.

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