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Dems seek to rally base over GOP's block of minimum wage bill

Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

Excon said:
Clear evidence that Dems are all about getting votes and not in doing what is best for the country.
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Nonsense. We have the highest minimum wage in America here in WA, And since it went up, unemployment has decreased.

The right wing myth has been exposed.
 
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Top Cat said:
Nonsense. We have the highest minimum wage in America here in WA, And since it went up, unemployment has decreased.

The right wing myth has been exposed.
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:lamo

People leaving the workforce is not unemployment decreasing.
 
Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

Excon said:
:lamo

People leaving the workforce is not unemployment decreasing.
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Right wing radio claims yet another victim.
 
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Top Cat said:
Nonsense. We have the highest minimum wage in America here in WA, And since it went up, unemployment has decreased.
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How would increasing the minimum wage reduce unemployment?
 
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Porchev said:
How would increasing the minimum wage reduce unemployment?
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I didn't say it caused unemployment to go down. But all the naysayers were sure it would immediately increase unemployment. The opposite happened. So you tell me, what happened?
 
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why not make it $30 an hour, like it really OUGHT to be, hmm? If, that is, as you claim, you REALLY want it to be a living wage, and if you really want such people paying taxes, getting ahead, etc. Why not make the US COMPLETELY non-competitive in the global market. ? You KNOW damned well that MOST other wages and prices would go up by a factor of 4 (at least). So why not make it obvious to everyone what you REALLY want, hmm? To buy votes or some other ignorance/skullduggery.
 
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Top Cat said:
I didn't say it caused unemployment to go down. But all the naysayers were sure it would immediately increase unemployment. The opposite happened. So you tell me, what happened?
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No, please, after you, I insist.
 
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Top Cat said:
I didn't say it caused unemployment to go down. But all the naysayers were sure it would immediately increase unemployment. The opposite happened. So you tell me, what happened?
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What happened? It had little impact as Washington state is in the top 3 with the lowest percentage of minimum wage workers in the country. Impact is small when those it impacts is small. Areas with above average cost of living generally have wage workers that make above minimum wage. Just the way it is.
 
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Top Cat said:
Right wing radio claims yet another victim.
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I am sorry to hear you are a victim of whatever this right wing radio is.
 
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A MW raise doesn't always make unemployment go up. Sometimes it just makes prices go up instead.

But most assuredly, one or the other goes up.
 
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Gipper said:
A MW raise doesn't always make unemployment go up. Sometimes it just makes prices go up instead.

But most assuredly, one or the other goes up.
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depends on the hike in minimum wage.

for every 10% increase there is about a 20% decline in employment or employment oppertunities.
Politics is politics and that is all the dem's have is pandering to people the promise of more money.

of coures they don't have to pay for the minimum wage increase so they don't care. honestly i think we should make all of these people pay all their staffers.
no more internships. then lets see them howl and scream at the costs.
 
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After Wednesday's vote, Democratic senators sought to use the defeat as a rallying cry for November.

"Low-income people tend not to vote, but on this, this would be one that they come out on because it's a pocketbook issue for them," said liberal Sen. Tom Harkin of Iowa.

Votes are cheap these days. Now you can buy them for a mere $2.85 per hour.
 
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Grant said:
The Dems already have a lock on the minimum wage voter.
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Lots more that aren't registered...
 
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Oh, jeez, why all the frittering around? Why don't the dems just propose that we mint that $trillion coin, and give one to everybody? Well, the problem there is that those voters wouldn't need the dems anymore. All the trillionaires would want tax cuts. And, of course, the dems don't want people on their level, they just want the carrot on a stick so that they keep begging for just a little more. Plus, $100 billion for a cup of coffee doesn't sound so good.
 
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I don't understand why the minimum wage shouldn't rise. Prices have.
Consider that in the early 60s the minimum wage was set at 1 dollar, which had the purchasing power of 15 of today's dollars. So people are actually making less money now than 50 years ago.
The Real Minimum Wage Falls Every Year
 
Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

Excon said:
:lamo

People leaving the workforce is not unemployment decreasing.
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I don't follow your logic (or lack thereof). Why would people leave the work force just because the minimum wage was higher?
 
Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

Porchev said:
How would increasing the minimum wage reduce unemployment?
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Some very small businesses can't afford the wage increase. They just shut down their business. Some larger business budget a certain amount of money for wages. If the minimum wage increases they have to fire some of the people to make up the difference. It's a logical theory. I don't know if it really pans out that way in reality but it is logic. Let me give you a simplistic example. There are too many factors but this will at least help you understand the logic behind the claims.


A large company budgets $4,976,400.00 for salaries for 2014. The company has 330 employees all being paid minimum wage. If minimum wage increases to $10.10 per hour the company is only willing to pay 237 employees at that cost. 93 people will be fired right off the bat.

330 employees x $7.25 x 40 hours x 52 weeks = $4,976,400.00
237 employees x $10.10 x 40 hours x 52 weeks = $4,978,896.00

That means that 28% of people earning minimum wage will lose their job.
If 6,000,000 are earning minimum wage then 1,680,000 will lose their job. That's the logic. Don't get pissed at me though. This is just the logic with a simplistic example. There are billions and billions of factors to consider. Nobody has a crystal ball. Nobody can predict the impact of increasing the minimum wage. Consult your capitalistic religion or socialistic religion for the true answers.
 
Re: How $10.10 an hour could get votes in November

The left should run on raising the mini wage. After handing the middle class's health care system over to the poor and making the middle class pay for it they shall be greatly routed in Nov.
 
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