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Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:212]

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Grant said:
Which lies are they?
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Be prepared for a dump from Media Matter's web site. :mrgreen:
(As if they are some sort of unbiased source of information - they are not).
 
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JasperL said:
Giving what orders? The military response? Since when do we expect Sec. of State and/or POTUS to meddle into how our trained military responds to battles as those battles are taking place? THAT would be a scandal, IMO. It's why we have a Sec. Def, JCOS, command centers, chains of command, staffed by some of the best in their fields in world history.
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It starts with the President. This may help, including the video. 'The Point Is We Should Have Tried
 
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eohrnberger said:
Be prepared for a dump from Media Matter's web site. :mrgreen:
(As if they are some sort of unbiased source of information - they are not).
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He mentioned Fox News as having lied but offers no evidence or support for his charge yet continues to believe in Obama/Hillary despite all the evidence against them.

I don't expect a reply because liberals will lie in order to protect their political beliefs, that whatever means necessary will always justify the glorious end.

This should counter any Media Matter nonsense. http://www.judicialwatch.org/
 
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JasperL said:
Giving what orders? The military response? Since when do we expect Sec. of State and/or POTUS to meddle into how our trained military responds to battles as those battles are taking place? THAT would be a scandal, IMO. It's why we have a Sec. Def, JCOS, command centers, chains of command, staffed by some of the best in their fields in world history.

And you just ignored the example of the OTHER 9/11. Do you care why you were lied to by Bush? Or do you actually believe we are targeted for terrorist attacks because of our freedoms?
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It's funny how when SEAL Team 6 risked their lives to take out Osama bi Laden the left spoke of the action as if Obama had been the first one out of the helicopter and put the bullet in bin Laden himself.

When he fails to rally a response to Benghazi it's because he is only the Commander in Chief and can't be expected to take responsibility...
 
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jmotivator said:
It's funny how when SEAL Team 6 risked their lives to take out Osama bi Laden the left spoke of the action as if Obama had been the first one out of the helicopter and put the bullet in bin Laden himself.

When he fails to rally a response to Benghazi it's because he is only the Commander in Chief and can't be expected to take responsibility...
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While I don't like Obama you are comparing apples and oranges. The bin Ladin strike was planned, the Benghazi incident wasn't. Two separate things.
 
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TheNextEra said:
While I don't like Obama you are comparing apples and oranges. The bin Ladin strike was planned, the Benghazi incident wasn't. Two separate things.
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Benghazi wasn't planned? Despite all the warnings? Is this excuse intended to be a defense of Obama/Hillary?
 
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Grant said:
Benghazi wasn't planned? Despite all the warnings? Is this excuse intended to be a defense of Obama/Hillary?
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Not by the president it wasn't planned.
 
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Grant said:
Exactly.
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So like I said, it was apples and oranges. Bin ladin strike was planned, the bengazi incident wasn't a planned event by the president.

I like it how you calim there were "warnings" and blame Obama, yet there were warnings about terrorists using planes and you don't hold Bush accountable. Hypocrisy on your part again.
 
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Grant said:
He mentioned Fox News as having lied but offers no evidence or support for his charge yet continues to believe in Obama/Hillary despite all the evidence against them.

I don't expect a reply because liberals will lie in order to protect their political beliefs, that whatever means necessary will always justify the glorious end.

This should counter any Media Matter nonsense. Judicial Watch | Welcome
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I'd very much agree.
 
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TheNextEra said:
While I don't like Obama you are comparing apples and oranges. The bin Ladin strike was planned, the Benghazi incident wasn't. Two separate things.
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Let's not act like this was some kind of surprise or something. Libya was an absolute hotbed of activity and had JSOC's focus. They were well aware of the situation there. They prepare for everything, but I don't think Obama does and wasn't all that concerned with stuff going on over there.
 
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Anthony60 said:
Let's not act like this was some kind of surprise or something. Libya was an absolute hotbed of activity and had JSOC's focus. They were well aware of the situation there. They prepare for everything, but I don't think Obama does and wasn't all that concerned with stuff going on over there.
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Again, some people are going to see things where they aren't. It's great having that hindsight 20/20 after an event isn't it?

I'm not saying they didn't mismanaged it, they did. But I'm not going to believe some conspiracy theory of "Obama wanted those people to die" crap.
 
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TheNextEra said:
While I don't like Obama you are comparing apples and oranges. The bin Ladin strike was planned, the Benghazi incident wasn't. Two separate things.
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Anthony60 said:
Let's not act like this was some kind of surprise or something. Libya was an absolute hotbed of activity and had JSOC's focus. They were well aware of the situation there. They prepare for everything, but I don't think Obama does and wasn't all that concerned with stuff going on over there.
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TheNextEra said:
Again, some people are going to see things where they aren't. It's great having that hindsight 20/20 after an event isn't it?

I'm not saying they didn't mismanaged it, they did. But I'm not going to believe some conspiracy theory of "Obama wanted those people to die" crap.
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Again, I'd like to point out that only 1/2 of the issue is the attack and the lack of preparation / negligence of duty to defend the attack.

The other, perhaps even larger issue, is the misdirection, proffering up various quickly debunked memes from the president and his administration in defense of the reelection campaign, as well as the clear violation of the Hatch Act, where campaign leaders prepped Rice to deliver the politically motivated memes in defense of the reelection campaign, in essence, politically motivated lying to the nation.
 
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TheNextEra said:
Again, some people are going to see things where they aren't. It's great having that hindsight 20/20 after an event isn't it?

I'm not saying they didn't mismanaged it, they did. But I'm not going to believe some conspiracy theory of "Obama wanted those people to die" crap.
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The point is, it is not hindsight, they knew before hand that there could be heaps of trouble there. Obama made a decision based on what he thought would be best for his reelection, not the best decision. And of course, there is the cover up.
 
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jmotivator said:
It's funny how when SEAL Team 6 risked their lives to take out Osama bi Laden the left spoke of the action as if Obama had been the first one out of the helicopter and put the bullet in bin Laden himself.

When he fails to rally a response to Benghazi it's because he is only the Commander in Chief and can't be expected to take responsibility...
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The CIA did launch a response that failed. They were in charge there. How many times will you keep ignoring the facts?

New Detailed Account of Benghazi Attack Notes CIA’s Quick Response - ABC News
 
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TheNextEra said:
Again, some people are going to see things where they aren't. It's great having that hindsight 20/20 after an event isn't it?

I'm not saying they didn't mismanaged it, they did. But I'm not going to believe some conspiracy theory of "Obama wanted those people to die" crap.
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Who said "Obama wanted those people to die"? Is this the truth or are you making it up??
 
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iguanaman said:
The CIA did launch a response that failed. They were in charge there. How many times will you keep ignoring the facts?

New Detailed Account of Benghazi Attack Notes CIA’s Quick Response - ABC News
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So the CIA has authority over the White House and State Department ?

Before the attack on the compound was even finished Hillary put out a press statement blaming it on a internet video.

The CIA testified that its talking points, which were changed due to heavy pressure from the WH and State Dept, did not include a reference to a Internet Video.

While Men were dying in Benghazzi, all the WH and Hillary could think of was how this event affected them Politically.

So before it was even finished they started their cover up.

Thats why Benghazzi is even worse than the IRA scandal.
 
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Fenton said:
So the CIA has authority over the White House and State Department ?

Before the attack on the compound was even finished Hillary put out a press statement blaming it on a internet video.

The CIA testified that its talking points, which were changed due to heavy pressure from the WH and State Dept, did not include a reference to a Internet Video.

While Men were dying in Benghazzi, all the WH and Hillary could think of was how this event affected them Politically.

So before it was even finished they started their cover up.

Thats why Benghazzi is even worse than the IRA scandal.
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The CIA was responsible for security and Stevens himself turned down offers of additional men because of that. The CIA failed and somehow that is a plot? When have they not failed lately? Bush giving out those "Medals of Failure" and raises to the losers for failing to stop 911 have poisoned it. That embarrassment, Petreus was also involved, need I say more?
 
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JasperL said:
You're making conclusions that just are not in the evidence. A drone wasn't on the scene until after the attacks began, and you're asserting the WH and others knew WHY the terrorists attacked the embassy well before they even knew WHO was behind the attacks. How could they know the motivations of people not yet identified? I don't really think anyone can say right now WHY they attacked the outposts. We now know, and weren't supposed to learn, that these were CIA spook sites, staffed by CIA personnel doing classified activities. Were those activities the motivation - we don't know because we don't know what they were doing - it was secret enough that Petraeus avoided the public ceremony of his own dead agents to keep the CIA connection unclear.

But somehow the fact that the unknown attackers who attacked for still unknown to me reasons was politically spun for a few DAYS is supposed to be a scandal that's lived for 18 months. I really don't get it.
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They (government officials) went on TV and claimed a stupid youtube video caused the attack in Benghazi. They were protecting their phony President. No evidence existed to come to such stupid conclusions.
 
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iguanaman said:
The CIA was responsible for security and Stevens himself turned down offers of additional men because of that. The CIA failed and somehow that is a plot? When have they not failed lately? Bush giving out those "Medals of Failure" and raises to the losers for failing to stop 911 have poisoned it. That embarrassment, Petreus was also involved, need I say more?
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"DUDE, Bush was Like 5 Years Ago"...

One things apparent, that before the attack was even finished, Clinton started the false narrative about a Internet video with a press release.

More concerned about her political future than the truth. More concerned about her Political future than the people who were being attacked
 
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eohrnberger said:
Again, I'd like to point out that only 1/2 of the issue is the attack and the lack of preparation / negligence of duty to defend the attack.

The other, perhaps even larger issue, is the misdirection, proffering up various quickly debunked memes from the president and his administration in defense of the reelection campaign, as well as the clear violation of the Hatch Act, where campaign leaders prepped Rice to deliver the politically motivated memes in defense of the reelection campaign, in essence, politically motivated lying to the nation.
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To me, it's about posting links that support your view. Mine is that they blamed it on the video. I read that the video was referenced many times by Arab publications. This may be where the U.S. got the excuse from. I found this blog pretty thorough. Surprises in the Benghazi E-Mails | Foreign Policy Blogs
 
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7forever said:
To me, it's about posting links that support your view. Mine is that they blamed it on the video. I read that the video was referenced many times by Arab publications. This may be where the U.S. got the excuse from. I found this blog pretty thorough. Surprises in the Benghazi E-Mails | Foreign Policy Blogs
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I have, earlier in this thread. There was even an image of the email posted as well, with the addressees clearly visible, demonstrating the mixing of administration and campaign personnel, clearly a Hatch Act violation.

The repeated lying by the administration in the form of misdirection blame memes is already a mater of public record.
 
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