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Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video [W:212]

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So would you would not call someone who was involved in a protest on say 9/10 a protester?

The attacks did not spontaneously arise out of a protest. But that's not the same thing as saying that no protesters were involved.

I don't parse or play word ganes.

The attack had nothing to do with any "protest" and yet Obama persisted with that lie for 2 weeks.
 
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So would you would not call someone who was involved in a protest on say 9/10 a protester?

The attacks did not spontaneously arise out of a protest. But that's not the same thing as saying that no protesters were involved.

Why don't you take 2 minutes and educate yourself on what's been testified to and where we are today on this matter:

Herridge: Administration's Benghazi Explanations Are Beginning To Unravel | Video | RealClearPolitics
 
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America is finally hearing the news they have been waiting for a year and a half to hear, Speaker of the House John Boehner is forming a select committee to investigate Benghazi.

The White House coverup of Benghazi will not stand any longer. They have refused to release key documents and have been caught in lie after lie, as evidenced by the latest emails released by a court order.
The Select Committee will likely be Chaired by Representative Trey Gowdy.
BREAKING: Trey Gowdy to Chair a "Select Committee" Investigation of Benghazi



Trey seems to know how to ask questions that get answers. Fromm what I've heard, he's a former prosecutor. Perhaps he'll have better luck than the previous investigative chairman.
 
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Since the GOP House has already stated that they are not in the business of making new laws,
they may as well waste taxpayer's money on as many faux committees as they please.

As soon as polls show this latest round of Benghazi hurting the GOP, they'll head to the IRS vote next week and back to the ACA.
Americans will have a surprise in November for the party of NO .
 
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Since the GOP House has already stated that they are not in the business of making new laws,
they may as well waste taxpayer's money on as many faux committees as they please.

I think you really are missing the significant point behind the continued Benghazi investigation. As I've stated previously in this thread.
The entire controversy, in my view, has 2 main parts.
  • 4 dead Americans, one of which a respected ambassador were killed
    • Repeatedly asked for greater security, and were never granted a
    • State didn't want a 'heavy footprint' (security presence) at that embassy
    • It was obvious that on 9/11 anniversary the likelihood of an attack is increased
  • After the event, in the heat of the rapidly concluding election, no bad news for the Obama administration must have been the mandate. Hence misdirection of quickly discredited memes that the administration put in talking point to present in the media, even though the truth of the attack being well coordinated and pre-planned was already well known to the administration shortly after the attack started.
Now, for #1, it's a darn shame, but sometimes mistakes are made and there are errors in judgement. You learn from the event, and make policy and procedural changes to prevent a recurrence. Fine.

For #2, I find it inexcusable that the administration, one again, lies to the public when politically convenient. Further, I find it dam frustrating that some would accept this as perfectly acceptable behavior. In my view, and according to my value system, it isn't. It raises the question as to what values the people hold who accept this as perfectly acceptable behavior.

This part of the Benghazi issue is far from over, in spite of nearly everyone on the left wanting to bury it.

Maybe it's that you don't want to hold the president and his administration accountable for lying, misdirecting, stonewalling the electorate.

As soon as polls show this latest round of Benghazi hurting the GOP, they'll head to the IRS vote next week and back to the ACA.
Americans will have a surprise in November for the party of NO .

Everything that I've heard or seen would indicate counter to this. But that's OK. You just keep your hope alive. Fine by me.
 
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Since the GOP House has already stated that they are not in the business of making new laws,
they may as well waste taxpayer's money on as many faux committees as they please.

As soon as polls show this latest round of Benghazi hurting the GOP, they'll head to the IRS vote next week and back to the ACA.
Americans will have a surprise in November for the party of NO .

I'm sure the Nixon administration thought the same of that select committee too...but I know, it's only not a waste of time and money when demo's investigate repub's...
 
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BREAKING: Trey Gowdy to Chair a "Select Committee" Investigation of Benghazi



Trey seems to know how to ask questions that get answers. Fromm what I've heard, he's a former prosecutor. Perhaps he'll have better luck than the previous investigative chairman.


Does this idiot know President Bush said he would get Osama Bin Laden "Dead or Alive" yet just 6 months later he tells the world he doesn't care about him any more? As for Obama doing more, Former Sec of Defense Robert Gates disagrees.

 
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I'm sure the Nixon administration thought the same of that select committee too...but I know, it's only not a waste of time and money when demo's investigate repub's...
The reason Nixon quit was because he knew if he was impeached, he would likely not have the Republican votes in the Senate to save his ass.
 
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Does this idiot know President Bush said he would get Osama Bin Laden "Dead or Alive" yet just 6 months later he tells the world he doesn't care about him any more? As for Obama doing more, Former Sec of Defense Robert Gates disagrees.



So what exactly does Bush's positions on OBL have to do with Benghazi?
Or is this yet another desperate attempt to change the subject away from Benghazi?
Or is this yet another lame attempt at blaming Bush?
 
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So what exactly does Bush's positions on OBL have to do with Benghazi?
Or is this yet another desperate attempt to change the subject away from Benghazi?
Or is this yet another lame attempt at blaming Bush?
Didn't you listen to Rep. Trey Gowdy? He complained that President Obama hasn't produced the people who were responsible for the Benghazi attack.
 
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Didn't you listen to Rep. Trey Gowdy? He complained that President Obama hasn't produced the people who were responsible for the Benghazi attack.

And the administration hasn't. The administration has been stonewalling and not producing the requested documents, short of a court FoIA battle.
What's your point? That this is admirable behavior somehow?
 
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And the administration hasn't. The administration has been stonewalling and not producing the requested documents, short of a court FoIA battle.
What's your point? That this is admirable behavior somehow?
Sorry, I don't care what the issue is, POTUS's don't give up documents without a fight. Bush did it, Obama did it and every president it the future will fight it. Trust me.
 
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And the administration hasn't. The administration has been stonewalling and not producing the requested documents, short of a court FoIA battle.
What's your point? That this is admirable behavior somehow?

First off what Protest?


Benghazi US consulate attack: Timeline

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Here is the timeline of events that US officials believe led to the death of US ambassador Christopher Stevens, his state department colleague Sean Smith and former Navy Seals Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

10pm: Attackers open fire at the consulate, which has a main building and a smaller annex.

10.15pm: The assailants gain entry to the complex and the main building is engulfed in flames.

10.45pm: Security staff try to retake the main building but come under heavy fire and retreat.

11.20pm: A second attempt to retake the main building is successful. Fighting moves to the annexe.

Midnight: Fighting at the annexe - reported to last about two hours - results in the deaths of two more Americans, later named by US authorities as former Navy Seals whose job was to protect the other staff.

1.15am: Mr Stevens arrives at a nearby hospital - it is not known who took him. A doctor there has told the BBC that he spent an hour trying to revive him, but that Mr Stevens died from smoke inhalation.

2.30am: Security forces regain control of the annexe.....snip~

BBC News - Benghazi US consulate attack: Timeline
 
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Sorry, I don't care what the issue is, POTUS's don't give up documents without a fight. Bush did it, Obama did it and every president it the future will fight it. Trust me.

And now that the fight is done, the court ordering the release of the documents, and now, it's excessive spin and rationalization time for the president, the administration and their supporters. Yes, yes, this is all the normal way it goes.

Too bad the released documents clearly show how twisted and tortured this administration and this president is. All the already documented lying they do the electorate. Some leadership style, that.
 
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And now that the fight is done, the court ordering the release of the documents, and now, it's excessive spin and rationalization time for the president, the administration and their supporters. Yes, yes, this is all the normal way it goes.

Too bad the released documents clearly show how twisted and tortured this administration and this president is. All the already documented lying they do the electorate. Some leadership style, that.

Yeah Eorhn, and don't forget we have all the other Material on the Emails in the other thread. Including the New Yorker Piece wherein they state it undermines Team O's credibility.

So Benghazi rearing its Ugly head and coming back into assist BO's special care package, and the Jobs situation not looking so good. Plus now the call for a Select Committee over Benghazi.

I don't think we will be having to worry about the Demos in any leadership roles for some time to come.
 
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Yeah Eorhn, and don't forget we have all the other Material on the Emails in the other thread. Including the New Yorker Piece wherein they state it undermines Team O's credibility.

So Benghazi rearing its Ugly head and coming back into assist BO's special care package, and the Jobs situation not looking so good. Plus now the call for a Select Committee over Benghazi.

I don't think we will be having to worry about the Demos in any leadership roles for some time to come.

True, until the Republicans screw it up on their watch (bound to happen sooner or later). The continuing ebb and flow of the balance of power that is politics.
 
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And now that the fight is done, the court ordering the release of the documents, and now, it's excessive spin and rationalization time for the president, the administration and their supporters. Yes, yes, this is all the normal way it goes.

Too bad the released documents clearly show how twisted and tortured this administration and this president is. All the already documented lying they do the electorate. Some leadership style, that.
It's not the Obama administration that's twisted...
 
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It's not the Obama administration that's twisted...

Depends on your perspective and your political leanings, how much Obama Kool Aid you drink, how few probing questions you ask, and how much critical thinking you use.

I don't see presidential bold faced lies in front of the entire world when the truth was already known by the president and the administration as being anything but tortured and twisted.

By what value system do you judge that to be acceptable?
By what value system do you judge that to be desirable in a presidential leader?
 
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It's not the Obama administration that's twisted...

Oh no not at all
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.....that's why 61% of the Country believes he will lie on any important issue, and truthfully we weren't counting all the Obamabots. :lol:
 
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Depends on your perspective and your political leanings, how much Obama Kool Aid you drink, how few probing questions you ask, and how much critical thinking you use.

I don't see presidential bold faced lies in front of the entire world when the truth was already known by the president and the administration as being anything but tortured and twisted.

By what value system do you judge that to be acceptable?
By what value system do you judge that to be desirable in a presidential leader?
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By what value system do you judge a president that lies us into a war that resulted in the deaths of more than 4500 of our troops and life altering injuries to tens of thousands more?
 
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By what value system do you judge a president that lies us into a war that resulted in the deaths of more than 4500 of our troops and life altering injuries to tens of thousands more?

I dispute the premise. If you recall, the post 9/11 congress, who should be a balance to the executive branch, agreed by a majority that Afghanistan and Iraq military engagements. I have the Democratic leader's quotes, if you like.

You may also recall that it was far from just the president and his administration that contributed the intelligence information that supported the main reason for invading Iraq, which was suspected WMDs. The Yellow cake may have been a misreading of intelligence gathered, or may have been something else. That, obviously, was faux pas.

In the ensuing occupation of Iraq, traces of WMDs were found (I have a link to the Wired article as well as the WikiLeaks inforation), so those weapons were in Iraq at one time, possibly moved over to Syria which may have used on protesters / rebels by Assad.
 
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I wasn't here during the Bush years, but I have a hard time believing that the 10-15 attacks on our embassies got the same scrutiny, or the thousands of dead soldiers because of our misguided Iraq and Afghanistan policies, or the in general decades of mucking around in the ME, deposing leaders we don't like, propping up those we do, which has created all this blowback. I read this stuff on Benghazi and it appears like the only mistakes we've made in the ME were by Hillary, Rice and Obama.

Mistakes aren't the issue. I think there have been enough policy failures in the ME for both parties. It's the cover up in and lying to the American people and the families of the victims because you valued an easier re-election more than them that's the issue.
 
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I dispute the premise. If you recall, the post 9/11 congress, who should be a balance to the executive branch, agreed by a majority that Afghanistan and Iraq military engagements. I have the Democratic leader's quotes, if you like.

You may also recall that it was far from just the president and his administration that contributed the intelligence information that supported the main reason for invading Iraq, which was suspected WMDs. The Yellow cake may have been a misreading of intelligence gathered, or may have been something else. That, obviously, was faux pas.

In the ensuing occupation of Iraq, traces of WMDs were found (I have a link to the Wired article as well as the WikiLeaks inforation), so those weapons were in Iraq at one time, possibly moved over to Syria which may have used on protesters / rebels by Assad.

That's just Pete going into his default "change the topic to Bush/republicans" mode, because he can't handle, nor accept, that the Obama Administration has once again been caught lying and/or deceiving the American people.
 
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