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Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA[W:545]

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Bodhisattva said:
A business can ban anybody it likes... it happens in bars and restaurants most often. Public pools. Libraries. Etc. It can happen in the NBA.
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No, it can't
 
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sangha said:
No, it can't
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Yes, it can. It can get a Ban and Bar Notice or a No Trespass Notice (depends on terminology of area) that enables police to legally remove anybody on that Notice from the business.
 
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sangha said:
Nope

Flo Rida was banned for his behavior at one of the games; not for something he said while not at a game.
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Did Sterling say or do something at a Clippers game?
 
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Hate to play the devil's advocate but............

Wait a second...the NBA can ban a person forever? Hmm......
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Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

I really have mixed emotions on this issue...What Sterling said was horrible and a truly racist statement but on the other hand what happened to the first amendment and freedom of speech especially in the privacy of his home that you on the left are always citing?
 
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Navy Pride said:
I really have mixed emotions on this issue...What Sterling said was horrible and a truly racist statement but on the other hand what happened to the first amendment and freedom of speech especially in the privacy of his home that you on the left are always citing?
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The PC crowd doesnt believe in free speech.
 
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apdst said:
The PC crowd doesnt believe in free speech.
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They believe in the same free speech the so-called "non-PC" crowd believes in: free to speak it, but not without serious repercussions. The only thing separating most people is what speech they think needs to be pressured out, boycotted, and railed against in the media.

Trust me, all of you do it. You just think you're above it, when you're not.
 
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Bodhisattva said:
Yes, it can. It can get a Ban and Bar Notice or a No Trespass Notice (depends on terminology of area) that enables police to legally remove anybody on that Notice from the business.
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No, they can't

They have to show cause in order to ban someone.
 
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apdst said:
The PC crowd doesnt believe in free speech.
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They only believe in the freedom of speech that suits their agenda. They try to snuff out the free speech of those who disagree with them.
 
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I agree with you, it is a horrible and racist statement. But the first only applies to the government not restricting speech, not everyone else.
Navy Pride said:
I really have mixed emotions on this issue...What Sterling said was horrible and a truly racist statement but on the other hand what happened to the first amendment and freedom of speech especially in the privacy of his home that you on the left are always citing?
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apdst said:
The PC crowd doesnt believe in free speech.
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Lord of Planar said:
They only believe in the freedom of speech that suits their agenda. They try to snuff out the free speech of those who disagree with them.
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Like the Dixie Chicks
 
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sangha said:
No, they can't

They have to show cause in order to ban someone.
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They can ban a person. You said they could not. You have just admitted that they can... "they have to show cause". I win. You lose. Bye.
 
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Navy Pride said:
I really have mixed emotions on this issue...What Sterling said was horrible and a truly racist statement but on the other hand what happened to the first amendment and freedom of speech especially in the privacy of his home that you on the left are always citing?
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Plenty of lefties on this thread including myself have made it clear that Sterling's privacy was invaded and that there are black players like Barkley who said racist things as well...It's just that we don't feel real sorry for the miserable **** Sterling.

Of course that would require actually you reading the thread to know what was said, as opposed to your usual open mouth spew nonsense.
 
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Lord of Planar said:
They only believe in the freedom of speech that suits their agenda. They try to snuff out the free speech of those who disagree with them.
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That's the name of the game. Everyone plays it, and everyone has their eyes on the prize.
 
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Bodhisattva said:
They can ban a person. You said they could not.
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I never said they can't ban a person. I said that can't ban anyone they want to ban. They can ban a person - a person who gives them cause to do so.
 
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sangha said:
Like the Dixie Chicks
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Does that apple taste like an orange to you?

It was the radio audience that started boycotting stations that played their music and stopped buying their material. Now if the same thing happens with Clippers fans and they stop buying tickets and merchandise, then it can be comparable. Until then... someone is talking from planet Uranus.
 
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Lord of Planar said:
Does that apple taste like an orange to you?

It was the radio audience that started boycotting stations that played their music and stopped buying their material. Now if the same thing happens with Clippers fans and they stop buying tickets and merchandise, then it can be comparable. Until then... someone is talking from planet Uranus.
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hey try to snuff out the free speech of those who disagree with them.
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Your words
 
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sangha said:
I never said they can't ban a person. I said that can't ban anyone they want to ban. They can ban a person - a person who gives them cause to do so.
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You are right. But then again... so am I. We both WIN!
 
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mak2 said:
I agree with you, it is a horrible and racist statement. But the first only applies to the government not restricting speech, not everyone else.
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There's somerhing wrong with that idea, too. Free speech is a civil right.
 
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Fiddytree said:
They believe in the same free speech the so-called "non-PC" crowd believes in: free to speak it, but not without serious repercussions. The only thing separating most people is what speech they think needs to be pressured out, boycotted, and railed against in the media.

Trust me, all of you do it. You just think you're above it, when you're not.
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I've never done it, my friend.
 
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sangha said:
Your words
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Yes, but you are misapplying it.

I support the right for the Dixie Chicks to say what they said. Now does that mean their consumers have no choice? What happened to the Dixie Chicks was a decision by music lovers. Not some high and mighty music executive. At this point, it is some high and mighty executive making the decision. What is the sales changes from Clippers fans?

Do you really think these situations are comparable at this point?
 
Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Fined $2.5M and Banned for Life by NBA

The Dixie Chicks also intentionally did this in a public forum, rather than a released taping. Sterling rightfully assumed he was having a private conversation.
 
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