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Toyota Moving US Headquarters to Texas

I'm not making **** up.

Remember during the Reagan administration when some Republicans came up with the idea of giving those poor Americans who lived in government housing the deeds to their homes under the condition they couldn't put it on the market for twenty years.

The idea behind doing this is that once they owned the property they would start upkeeping the property and soon start taking pride in their neighborhoods. That they would be more concerned on what was going on in their neighborhoods. Eventually less crime and drugs.

The Democrats shot down that idea. Probably fearing that these homeowners would kick the government monkey off their backs and stop voting for Democrats who keep trying to push free stuff on them in exchange for their votes and self respect.

I don't recall, but that sounds like the most massive of government hand outs. You would really support buying a house for the poor people in this country? Sounds like a good way to make real estate prices blow way out of proportion to their actual value, I don't think we need another housing bubble.
 
When the Japanese imported most of their cars though the Port of Los Angeles it made sense to have their North American headquarters in Southern California. But now, with large-scale manufacturing centered in the (non-union) South, it makes sense to be there.
 
What I'm thinking about in this thread is the discussing of which state a Japanese company will go to do business in this country. Texas is a lower wage, less regulated state than California. So Texas wins out, and Texans are happy about being chose because of their workers not making too much money. My thought is, we're now acting like a third world country. Offering cheap wages to attract businesses from other countries. Some blame unions, but Japan and Germany have unions (and national health care). Japan was a country destroyed after WW2. It's now surpassed us in many ways. Forgetting the right vs. left argument if we can, where has America gone wrong. I myself think some of the problem is in our country's trade policy. Japan grew it's industries by not allowing too many imports in their country. Same with S. Korea. I've also read where Germany doesn't allow mass exporting of jobs to third world countries. Maybe protectionism isn't such a bad idea after all?
 
I'm not making **** up.

Remember during the Reagan administration when some Republicans came up with the idea of giving those poor Americans who lived in government housing the deeds to their homes under the condition they couldn't put it on the market for twenty years.

The idea behind doing this is that once they owned the property they would start upkeeping the property and soon start taking pride in their neighborhoods. That they would be more concerned on what was going on in their neighborhoods. Eventually less crime and drugs.

The Democrats shot down that idea. Probably fearing that these homeowners would kick the government monkey off their backs and stop voting for Democrats who keep trying to push free stuff on them in exchange for their votes and self respect.

That housing plan sounded like a good idea at the time. Dems maybe shot it down because they didn't think of it first. It's the Left vs the right and to hell with the people and democrats are as guilty as republicans. If it's a good plan, give it a try. This "free stuff" argument is insulting to millions of hard working democrats. The free stuff and 47% statement helped keep Romney from winning, although most misunderstood what he said.
 
What I'm thinking about in this thread is the discussing of which state a Japanese company will go to do business in this country. Texas is a lower wage, less regulated state than California. So Texas wins out, and Texans are happy about being chose because of their workers not making too much money. My thought is, we're now acting like a third world country. Offering cheap wages to attract businesses from other countries. Some blame unions, but Japan and Germany have unions (and national health care). Japan was a country destroyed after WW2. It's now surpassed us in many ways. Forgetting the right vs. left argument if we can, where has America gone wrong. I myself think some of the problem is in our country's trade policy. Japan grew it's industries by not allowing too many imports in their country. Same with S. Korea. I've also read where Germany doesn't allow mass exporting of jobs to third world countries. Maybe protectionism isn't such a bad idea after all?

Not saying that I agree with the conclusion you allude to, but your points are valid. Should we really be thrilled that stagnant wages at home mean Americans are more competitive with Chinese workers? While German workers enjoy benefits most blue collar workers have lost in the last 30 years?

Anyways, there are some companies moving operations to Texas that realize afterward there are some issues to be addressed. GE is putting $780k into training potential employees for its new Ft Worth plant at local colleges after it realized there simply isn't a skilled enough workforce in Texas.
 
When the Japanese imported most of their cars though the Port of Los Angeles it made sense to have their North American headquarters in Southern California. But now, with large-scale manufacturing centered in the (non-union) South, it makes sense to be there.

Non stop flight availability from Narita to DFW might have more to do with it. These aren't dock workers moving.
 
I welcome Toyota to Texas. Toyota has been a good corporate neighbor.
 
Texas receives about 58 billion dollars more in federal spending than it pays in federal taxes, do for yourself and give it back please.

Sorry, but Texans voted against the people who set up this system. Stew in your own juices, chum.
 
What I'm thinking about in this thread is the discussing of which state a Japanese company will go to do business in this country. Texas is a lower wage, less regulated state than California. So Texas wins out, and Texans are happy about being chose because of their workers not making too much money. My thought is, we're now acting like a third world country. Offering cheap wages to attract businesses from other countries. Some blame unions, but Japan and Germany have unions (and national health care). Japan was a country destroyed after WW2. It's now surpassed us in many ways. Forgetting the right vs. left argument if we can, where has America gone wrong. I myself think some of the problem is in our country's trade policy. Japan grew it's industries by not allowing too many imports in their country. Same with S. Korea. I've also read where Germany doesn't allow mass exporting of jobs to third world countries. Maybe protectionism isn't such a bad idea after all?

I doubt that Toyota locating in Texas has anything to do with lower wages. Toyota personnel in the head office are not low wage. It has to do with dozens of regulations and fees in California that don't exist in Texas, dozens of government offices for which applications for various permits have to be submitted in California that Texans would never dream of concocting. It has to do with dozens of taxes, including a state income tax, that Californians have to pay that Texans have never heard of and would rebel at having to pay. The philosophy in California seems to be that private businesses should be preyed on by the government and every cent possible should be extracted from them for what the poobahs there regard as the public good. Texans see themselves as business people who want as little interference from government as possible.
 
Texas receives about 58 billion dollars more in federal spending than it pays in federal taxes, do for yourself and give it back please.

Huh ?

1/3 of Americas welfare recipients live in California even though that State is home to 1/8 of the population.

Go after the plague Blue States that house disproportionate numbers of the new dependent class and let Texas do what it does best.

Succeed. 60 Companies have moved from California. Its just proves that the Conservative approach to building economies works.
 
What I'm thinking about in this thread is the discussing of which state a Japanese company will go to do business in this country. Texas is a lower wage, less regulated state than California. So Texas wins out, and Texans are happy about being chose because of their workers not making too much money. My thought is, we're now acting like a third world country. Offering cheap wages to attract businesses from other countries. Some blame unions, but Japan and Germany have unions (and national health care). Japan was a country destroyed after WW2. It's now surpassed us in many ways. Forgetting the right vs. left argument if we can, where has America gone wrong. I myself think some of the problem is in our country's trade policy. Japan grew it's industries by not allowing too many imports in their country. Same with S. Korea. I've also read where Germany doesn't allow mass exporting of jobs to third world countries. Maybe protectionism isn't such a bad idea after all?


Nonsense.

You seriously think Companies like Toyota and Apple are going to pay their employees minimum wage ?

Per Capita GDP in Texas surpassed California's back in 2011 and its still rising.

When you factor in the Cost of living in Calfornia, the average annual income in Texas is 6 thousand dollars higher than California.

From 2002-2011 Texas created 216,000 Jobs with incomes over 150 percent of the Average American wage.

Thats 216,000 out of the 475,000 Total jobs created in our Nation.

Texas has low taxes, doesn't impose expensive and draconian regulations on our Business and incentives new investment and we're building on to a growing 9 billion dollar surplus.

Its those applied Conservative economic policies that are responsible for Texas's success.
 
Texas receives about 58 billion dollars more in federal spending than it pays in federal taxes, do for yourself and give it back please.

How many exports leave Texas that the Federal govt collects export taxes on? You think your simplistic measure tells the whole story? He said they don't like to go to the Fed for everything, which hardly means they go to the Fed for nothing. I see what that Independent lean really means, you think independently for 5 sec before you go full bore liberal. That's about the extent of if. You're one of the reasons I contend that anyone who claims to be in the middle is fooling themselves only.
 
We prefer the term 'cesspool' instead of slum.

Dallas is Nasty. Hot, poluted and crowded.
Filled with illegals.

A block or two outside of the Downtown area and your in Tijuana.

Did you hear Dumb Ass California Governor Brown talk about the move ?

He admitted that California has lots of Regulations and taxes but " smart people figure out how to make it work "

So in other words, " if your'e a Bussiness and you leave California, your really dumb" !

LOL !! Hes a 8 year old man child.


Im so glad Liberalism is being exposed for the corrupt and destructive ideology that it is.
 
Well, I'm sold on Dallas life now.

Fort Worth is nice, but Toyota is moving to Plano, which is far enough away from Dallas to justify never setting foot in that Town.

Plano is nice too.

I thought they should've come to Houston but Im sure they had their reasons
 
Fort Worth is nice, but Toyota is moving to Plano, which is far enough away from Dallas to justify never setting foot in that Town.

Plano is nice too.

I thought they should've come to Houston but Im sure they had their reasons

That's better. Besides, Houston is too hot and rainy.
 
That's better. Besides, Houston is too hot and
rainy.

Yea its Hot here. But its Hot in Dallas too.

Dallas heat is dry though but still pretty rough on the days it gets into the mid 90s to 100s.

There's no good reason to come out of plano anyway. Oh, buy a House with a Storm cellar.

Tornadoes !
 
Look its perfectly fine to be proud of your state, but to take success an excuse to be a dick is uncool. Texas is good for business, there's no doubt its had some good governance in regard to attracting business and the ease of doing business once your established plus favorable tax rates as well. But that comes with a cost as well, despite all the revenue and economic growth Texas has trouble with even simply matters like keeping its roads paved.

Plan to Convert Roads to Gravel Begins Despite Pushback | The Texas Tribune

You'd think with a mutli-million dollar oil boom chewing up local roads not designed for that kind of traffic could produce the tax dollars required to maintain or improve those roads, but instead the plan is to unimprove them and return to gravel roads.

Either way its more complicated than just local politics, things like the development of fracking can give states big economic booms with no effort by government, and in the end both California and Texas were top performers in economic growth among US states. So stop economic shifts like a business moving to a new location as some indisputable sign about the superiority

List of U.S. states by economic growth rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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The successful conservatives buy homes, they don't rent apartments.

Unlike those who rent, home owners take pride in their homes and their neighborhoods. There's a lot of responsibility when you own your own home. It's not cheap.

Some days I feel like saying **** it and think about becoming a renter where the landlord who lives off of other peoples sweat will take care of the upkeep of the property.

It was not for rent. It was for sale.

Cheap, since people are leaving California in droves.
 
Yea its Hot here. But its Hot in Dallas too.

Dallas heat is dry though but still pretty rough on the days it gets into the mid 90s to 100s.

There's no good reason to come out of plano anyway. Oh, buy a House with a Storm cellar.

Tornadoes !

Didn't Dallas get wrecked by ice storms the last couple years?
 
Didn't Dallas get wrecked by ice storms the last couple years?

Yea thats right. Dallas get's Ice too.

Hmmm....

You know I'm a proud Southern Boy and Texan but I honestly hope that if we ever have a Zombie apocalype it starts in Dallas.

Just so the Government can fly in a few fuel air bomb daisy cutters and obliterate the City to keep the Contagion from spreading.

You know, so that City could serve a positive purpose.

I've been there on Bussinesses too many times to admit and its just sad and dirty.
 
That's better. Besides, Houston is too hot and rainy.

Lots of nice suburbs, and there are some nice metropolitan pockets in Dallas and Fort Worth if you prefer the city life.

And if you like to travel, you can get anywhere in the country pretty much on a direct flight no longer than 4 1/2 hours.
 
Yea thats right. Dallas get's Ice too.

Hmmm....

You know I'm a proud Southern Boy and Texan but I honestly hope that if we ever have a Zombie apocalype it starts in Dallas.

Just so the Government can fly in a few fuel air bomb daisy cutters and obliterate the City to keep the Contagion from spreading.

You know, so that City could serve a positive purpose.

I've been there on Bussinesses too many times to admit and its just sad and dirty.

On business, you see the ugly side, especially if you go to Dallas.

But there are lots of nice areas. Southlake, Keller, Colleyville, Flower Mound, Grapevine, Frisco, Allen, McKinney, Denton, Mansfield, Rockwall, parts of Plano.....great places to raise a family.

But downtown Dallas is awful. The west Uptown side is nice, but it's disconnected a bit from downtown, which is going to be Detroit if they're not careful.
 
Look its perfectly fine to be proud of your state, but to take success an excuse to be a dick is uncool. Texas is good for business, there's no doubt its had some good governance in regard to attracting business and the ease of doing business once your established plus favorable tax rates as well. But that comes with a cost as well, despite all the revenue and economic growth Texas has trouble with even simply matters like keeping its roads paved.

I challenge any state to match our roads. They're wider, smoother, and constantly being improved. That's just simply not true.
 
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