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Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

AJiveMan said:
don't usually make openly racial disparaging comments like he did.
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He didn't.
You thinking he did exists solely in your own racial thoughts.
 
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Excon said:
I have no need to, as I know what I said specifically applies to you, and not me.
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We both have differences of opinions, I won't flame the fire any further.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

Excon said:
:... he has no racist tendencies or mannerism that you can point to, especially as content and context matter.
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Except that the leaders and pundits of your party have found him to be deplorably and despicably racist, and have enthusiastically condemned his comments as being specifically racist.
Heller's office told CBS News that the senator repudiates the rancher's most recent remarks.

"Senator Heller completely disagrees with Mr. Bundy's appalling and racist statements, and condemns them in the most strenuous way," a spokesperson for the senator said.
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On Thursday, senator Rand Paul responded on Twitter to Bundy's recent remarks: "Cliven Bundy's remarks on race are offensive and I wholeheartedly disagree with him," he said.
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“His comments are beyond repugnant to me,” Hannity said on his show. “They are beyond despicable to me. They are beyond ignorant to me.”

He said he worries that Bundy’s comments would brand Republicans and Bundy’s supporters as racist.
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Steele, who was the RNC’s first black chairman, added that Republicans must declare that “there is no place for this level of ignorance and stupidity around matters of race in our party.”
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Much of that support evaporated Thursday. RNC Chairman Reince Priebus called Bundy’s racial comments “completely beyond the pale” and “100 percent wrong.”
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Crystal Wright, a conservative commentator, said, “Republicans are part of our own problem,” given the regular embrace of figures such as Bundy.
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“He is a window into the soul of modern conservatism,” said Ian Haney López, a law professor at the University of California at Berkeley, who wrote a book called “Dog Whistle Politics.” He added, “A demonization of minorities and a demonization of the government in modern conservatism — those are inextricably linked.”
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Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

Ok, lets think about this. Examples?
tres borrachos said:
Edcuated people making racist remarks happens all the time.
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Buck Ewer said:
Except that the leaders of your party have found him to be racist in a deplorable and despicable way, and have enthusiastically condemned his comments as being specifically racist.
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OMG politicians making politically expedient comments. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm shocked. :shock: Those crazy party leaders are trendsetters.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

Wait, wait, wait...how could Cliven Bundy have said anything racist? According to the 5 Conservatives on the Supreme Court, racism is over.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

tres borrachos said:
OMG politicians making politically expedient comments. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm shocked. :shock: Those crazy party leaders are trendsetters.
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No . No surprise there. But it does illustrate how obviously racist Bundy's comments were.
If there was any wiggle room at all they would have loved to support his anti-government cause.
 
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mak2 said:
Ok, lets think about this. Examples?
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Well, if one is to believe that Sterling is a racist, he's got a college degree.

Here's one of my favorites. Michael Eric Dyson "More White Kids Need To Die For America To Understand Racism". College degree, plus an MBA and a PhD from Princeton.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

Buck Ewer said:
No . No surprise there. But it does illustrate how obviously racist Bundy's comments were.
If there was any wiggle room at all they would have loved to support his anti-government cause.
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Actually, no, what it illustrates is politicians being politicians. They're stupid, but not that stupid.

Bundy is inconsequential in the grand scheme of things, but he's made for interesting diversions from both sides. I give it a week and we never hear him name again.
 
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Excon said:
He didn't.
You thinking he did exists solely in your own racial thoughts.
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...and in the "racial thoughts" of republicon party leaders and pundits?
 
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Buck Ewer said:
Except that the leaders and pundits of your party have found him to be deplorably and despicably racist, and have enthusiastically condemned his comments as being specifically racist.
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One: You seem to be confused. My Party?
Do you not see my lean?
D'oh! :doh

Two. These folks mean nothing to me. They are as capable as getting it wrong as you are.
They may see their errors in time, or they may not see them, just as you do not see yours.

:doh:lamo:doh
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

He said, unless and until, as many white kids died as black, America wont understand. Do you really disagree with that? He is not advocating the death of white kids. You were not really going to try to say that, are you?
 
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tres borrachos said:
Actually, no, what it illustrates is politicians being politicians. They're stupid, but not that stupid.

Bundy is inconsequential in the grand scheme of things, but he's made for interesting diversions from both sides. I give it a week and we never hear him name again.
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No, they are not stupid. They fully understand that the general public know that Bundy is a racist and that if they remain supportive of him his racist stink will forever taint their chances at the polls.
It seems that if you are a republicon candidate it is OK to be anti-American ... but if you are associated with an overt racist you are doomed.
His name and the entire controversy will re-surface when he is forced to pay up or go to jail... but that could easily be months from now.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
No, they are not stupid. They fully understand that the general public know that Bundy is a racist and that if they remain supportive of him his racist stink will forever taint their chances at the polls.
It seems that if you are a republicon candidate it is OK to be anti-American ... but if you are associated with an overt racist you are doomed.
His name and the entire controversy will re-surface when he is forced to pay up or go to jail... but that could easily be months from now.
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And after the people finish their massive meltdown about some rancher who said something that they don't like, he'll drop off the news radar, just like Joe the Plumber did, and Shirley Sherrod did, and unfortunately Al Sharpton didn't do.
 
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mak2 said:
He said, unless and until, as many white kids died as black, America wont understand. Do you really disagree with that? He is not advocating the death of white kids. You were not really going to try to say that, are you?
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No normal person suggests white kids dying to make black racism something that should be discussed. Yes that was racist. Terribly racist.
 
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Excon said:
One: You seem to be confused. My Party?
Do you not see my lean?
D'oh! :doh

Two. These folks mean nothing to me. They are as capable as getting it wrong as you are.
They may see their errors in time, or they may not see them, just as you do not see yours.

:doh:lamo:doh
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I have debated you enough here to know how you likely vote Excon.
If I put down that I leaned independent ...would you believe me?
HA!
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

Yea, ok.
tres borrachos said:
No normal person suggests white kids dying to make black racism something that should be discussed. Yes that was racist. Terribly racist.
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Buck Ewer said:
No, they are not stupid. They fully understand that the general public know that Bundy is a racist and that if they remain supportive of him his racist stink will forever taint their chances at the polls.
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:naughty
We know they were fed an edited version of his words.
We do not know if they have been exposed to the full unedited version which shows the words were not racist.

So spare us the bs.

Hannity refused to listed to his full reply.
That is just Hannity being closed minded. Nothing more.
So it is also unlikely that he bothered listen to the full unedited version.


Buck Ewer said:
I have debated you enough here to know how you likely vote Excon.
If I put down that I leaned independent ...would you believe me?
HA!
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No you haven't.
You have made an assumption.
And it was an idiotic one at that.
That is all.
 
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mak2 said:
Yea, ok.
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So tell me, mak. What did he say that's so different than what Bundy said. Bundy never said "I want all blacks to be slaves again", did he? No, he didn't. But to read everyone's posts, that's exactly what he did. I show you a clip of a black man saying that more white kids have to die before racism is taken seriously, and interestingly enough, he didn't really say that, according to you
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

tres borrachos said:
And after the people finish their massive meltdown about some rancher who said something that they don't like, he'll drop off the news radar, just like Joe the Plumber did, and Shirley Sherrod did, and unfortunately Al Sharpton didn't do.
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Probably so ... In my honest opinion though, the damage has already been done. The take away for many Americans is that the Gee Ohhh Peee has backed another white racist. An image they have been actively trying to shake.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

He did not say have to die. You are making up words. He said unless and until.
tres borrachos said:
So tell me, mak. What did he say that's so different than what Bundy said. Bundy never said "I want all blacks to be slaves again", did he? No, he didn't. But to read everyone's posts, that's exactly what he did. I show you a clip of a black man saying that more white kids have to die before racism is taken seriously, and interestingly enough, he didn't really say that, according to you
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Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

Excon said:
:naughty
We know they were fed an edited version of his words.
We do not know if they have been exposed to the full unedited version which shows the words were not racist.

So spare us the bs.

Hannity refused to listed to his full reply.
That is just Hannity being closed minded. Nothing more.
So it is also unlikely that he bothered listen to the full unedited version.



No you haven't.
You have made an assumption.
And it was an idiotic one at that.
That is all.
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I would love to see you list all the independents and Democratic candidates you have voted for.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

mak2 said:
He did not say have to die. You are making up words. He said unless and until.
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And Bundy also never said that he wants blacks to be slaves again, did he?

He said "I wonder...." and then went on to make a comparison to government slavery (as he sees it).

This guy said "unless and until whites kids die..." and "until" isn't a poor use of words? Until white kids die? Applying the same logic all of you have to what Bundy meant (because you can all read his mind), I would have to say that this guy is advocating white kids being killed to make a point.

Either words are to be taken literally, or they aren't. It doesn't work both ways, mak, just because one man is black and the other is white. You're smart enough to know that.
 
Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

Buck Ewer said:
Probably so ... In my honest opinion though, the damage has already been done. The take away for many Americans is that the Gee Ohhh Peee has backed another white racist. An image they have been actively trying to shake.
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You could be right, but I don't honestly think the GOP loses too many votes because someone aligns his/herself with a "racist", personally.

Most right wingers who supported Bundy's cause in the first place won't vote for Nancy Pelosi because of his rambling words.
 
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