Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly.....[W:696:1188]

Moot · Apr 27, 2014

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Strucky said:
Yeah and in the process yet again left an even bigger mess than his predecessors....

Practically all he's done since he's been in office is clean up the mess left behind by past presidents. Can't hardly blame him for that.

VanceMack · Apr 27, 2014

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Top Cat said:
I said it was a cluster ****. Yes. To be honest I am not sure how to have solved the problem. But let's be clear, this problem was not caused by the administration. It is all on Bundy. I condemned the actions of the new hero of the right wing. The man has the temerity to criticize others for being on welfare and yet he is milking the land owned by taxpayers for free.

Those on the right couldn't suck him off fast enough. How ironic that the second he opened his mouth and **** came out, they ran... Where are they now?

I dont care where those on the right are. Ive maintained the same position about him from the beginning.

I have worked thousands of rapid response crisis cases. I dont care if the people I am called to talk to are good guys, or bad guys. I care about resolving the situation. Ive literally sat in a tree with a guy flying on drugs with a knife stuck in his neck talking him out of the tree. Ive been in between angry people holding weapons and their family members. There are ALWAYS solutions.

This situation was handled beyond badly. If the administration cant handle a debt collection from a Nevada rancher, how the **** are they supposed handle things that actually MATTER?

Moot · Apr 27, 2014

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VanceMack said:
Pretty pathetic that he cant handle a simple mop job.

So sorry it didn't turn out like WACO for you.

Strucky · Apr 27, 2014

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Moot said:
Practically all he's done since he's been in office is clean up the mess left behind by past presidents. Can't hardly blame him for that.

What has he cleaned up?

Strucky · Apr 27, 2014

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Moot said:
So sorry it didn't turn out like WACO for you.

Pretty sure he's been saying this whole time he never wanted another Waco...

Strucky · Apr 27, 2014

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opendebate said:
Between this guy and Zimmerman they seem to be on a real winning streak

Zimmerman is a Democrat,even worked for the Obama Campaign.

opendebate · Apr 27, 2014

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Strucky said:
Zimmerman is a Democrat,even worked for the Obama Campaign.

WTF does that have to do with anything

Tralfamadore · Apr 27, 2014

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Strucky said:
Zimmerman is a Democrat,even worked for the Obama Campaign.

So, that blows holes in your "liberals only think it's wrong if it's conservatives doing it" argument.

Tralfamadore · Apr 27, 2014

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VanceMack said:
First...find anyplace here on any thread where I have defended the tenant. Thats nto what this is about. It is about the way they chose to go about collecting a simple debt. SO...to play your silly game...yes...if they burned down the house to evict a tenant...yeah...I would say it was a pretty ****ing stupid thing to do. If they sent in an army of goons I would say yeah...THAT was a stupid thing to do. If they sent in the army of armed goons and the tenant was still there I would say OHMIGAWD....you ****ed THAT up to????????

Okay, so how does enforcement of the law work if law enforcement is met with armed resistance?

Strucky · Apr 27, 2014

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opendebate said:
WTF does that have to do with anything

Stop trying to lump Zimmerman in with the right and it wouldn't have to be brought up

Linc · Apr 27, 2014

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I'd be interested to know how this is playing in your state just North of the AZ border on I-15.
I've taken the unusal step for me to take the NM/AZ way to Las Vegas next month, though the weather should be great this time of the year .

Moot said:
Practically all he's done since he's been in office is clean up the mess left behind by past presidents. Can't hardly blame him for that.

Strucky · Apr 27, 2014

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Tralfamadore said:
So, that blows holes in your "liberals only think it's wrong if it's conservatives doing it" argument.

No not really considering Liberals try to paint Zimmerman as Conservative.

opendebate · Apr 27, 2014

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Strucky said:
Stop trying to lump Zimmerman in with the right and it wouldn't have to be brought up

They lumped not me.

Moot · Apr 27, 2014

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Strucky said:
What has he cleaned up?

Getting the economy back on track comes to mind.

Strucky · Apr 27, 2014

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Moot said:
Getting the economy back on track comes to mind.

I wasn't aware that poverty we haven't seen since the 60's and an employment participation rate not seen since the 1970's was seen as being back on track....

Wiseone · Apr 27, 2014

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VanceMack said:
NOT send in an army of armed federal agents and shoot them all. Using your own 'lame' fairy tale fantasy scenario...would you equally support sending inan army of federal agents to collect traffic tickets from inner city gangs and shoot them all if they resist?

:lamo

SO...thats it then...right? You insist law and order must be maitained and since the last show of force didnt work...this time its drones and airstrikes! By damn...they WILL collect those grazing fees....even if it costs 5 times as much to make him pay!

Look at yourself.

You whined for two pages about being asked hypothetical and now you ask me my own hypothetical in your argument?

You're just a troll

The Mark · Apr 27, 2014

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AJiveMan said:
Just in the context of Bundy's statement, "let me tell you something else about the negro" in of itself is stereotype language. Why other people can't see that I do not know.

Of course it is.

Bundy knows how things work, and in his world, black people ARE their stereotype.

Or something like that.

BMCM · Apr 27, 2014

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Something I've been wondering about. All these militia guys protecting bundy, do they not have other responsibilities such as jobs, bills to pay,. If they have families are all the families at the ranch with them or are they having to fend for themselves. I'd hate to think that the militia guys are so tunnel visioned that they would abandon their families and other responsibilities.

Moot · Apr 27, 2014

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NIMBY said:
I'd be interested to know how this is playing in your state just North of the AZ border on I-15.
I've taken the unusal step for me to take the NM/AZ way to Las Vegas next month, though the weather should be great this time of the year .

I think its worthy to note that we didn't see a lot of ranchers come to Bundy's defense. I get the sense that Bundy already had a reputation for being a kook long before the standoff.

OldWorldOrder · Apr 27, 2014

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Moot said:
I think its worthy to note that we didn't see a lot of ranchers come to Bundy's defense. I get the sense that Bundy already had a reputation for being a kook long before the standoff.

Again, I've already said it, but watching him being interviews the other day...I don't think it's that he's a "kook", I think he really has some learning disability issues. Simply put, he seemed borderline retarded. And I don't mean that as an insult or joke, but like...really very unintelligent.

Moot · Apr 27, 2014

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Strucky said:
I wasn't aware that poverty we haven't seen since the 60's and an employment participation rate not seen since the 1970's was seen as being back on track....

The poverty rate can be directly attributed to the financial collapse and is part of the mopping up process.

Linc · Apr 27, 2014

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BMCM said:
Something I've been wondering about. All these militia guys protecting bundy, do they not have other responsibilities such as jobs, bills to pay,. If they have families are all the families at the ranch with them or are they having to fend for themselves. I'd hate to think that the militia guys are so tunnel visioned that they would abandon their families and other responsibilities.

So many of the right-wing militias are retired/unemployed and on the government TEAt.
Takers whining about someone else being a taker--like Bundy.

This is a dry run for the militias, who fully expect to be in a shooting civil war by the early 2020's, especially if Clinton is still President .

Moot · Apr 27, 2014

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OldWorldOrder said:
Again, I've already said it, but watching him being interviews the other day...I don't think it's that he's a "kook", I think he really has some learning disability issues. Simply put, he seemed borderline retarded. And I don't mean that as an insult or joke, but like...really very unintelligent.

If you think he's bad you should see the rest of rural America.

zimmer · Apr 27, 2014

Re: Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly what I said’

reconmark said:
It's irrelevant who sold them first how in any way does this excuse the racist comment made by this idiot??

Ohh, excuse me; you were making a futile attempt at deflection.

Ignorant again. Another mislead by the NYT who took his quote out of context; when in context he praises Mexicans and laments what the government has done to enslave black Americans.

They pulled this vile act in an effort to destroy him. The supposed rag of record.

Filthy McNasty · Apr 27, 2014

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BMCM said:
Something I've been wondering about. All these militia guys protecting bundy, do they not have other responsibilities such as jobs, bills to pay,. If they have families are all the families at the ranch with them or are they having to fend for themselves. I'd hate to think that the militia guys are so tunnel visioned that they would abandon their families and other responsibilities.

There are not any militia guys protecting Bundy, they went home. A while ago. They were not actually "there" very long. :shock:

Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly.....[W:696:1188]

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