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Cliven Bundy stands by racially charged comments, ‘That’s exactly.....[W:696:1188]

Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

If it was an inner city gang you and your ilk wouldnt say a ****ing thing about it and neither would the administration.

If they had "driven off" Federal agents while wearing turbans instead of cowboy hats you'd be calling for an airstrike.
 
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Well...at least you didnt offer another ridiculous fairy tale fantasy hypothetical that your like minded posters think is 'lame'.

Do you think then that restoring rule of law to this area of Nevada is important and worth the cost?
 
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Do you think then that restoring rule of law to this area of Nevada is important and worth the cost?

The bad guys can never win.
 
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If they had "driven off" Federal agents while wearing turbans instead of cowboy hats you'd be calling for an airstrike.
If the federal agents were there to collect ticket fees, I would have had the same opinion re sending in an armed response unit.

What DO you do now Deucie? They played their one and only card, right? It was their only choice...their best choice...right? NOW what?
 
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Do you think then that restoring rule of law to this area of Nevada is important and worth the cost?
By restoring the rule of law, you mean spending more than you could have possibly collected, turn someone you equate to a racist Forrest Gump into a folk hero, and allowing him to turn you out and bend you over the corral? Cuz...thats what you actually managed to accomplish in this action you love and support so much. Oh...sure...you managed to kill a few cows...but...other than that...you sure showed him, boy...didncha!

Its sad you still think that was their best bet and the right thing to do.
 
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The bad guys can never win.
Up until a few weeks ago and that debacle of a government action...we never even 'heard' of the 'bad guy'. We know of this because the administration completely ****ed up.

Now what...air strikes? Maybe call in Putin to see if he will fix this line in the sand **** up for the administration? That HAS been the point all along. Its not pro-Bundy...its anti STUPID government action.
 
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By restoring the rule of law, you mean spending more than you could have possibly collected, turn someone you equate to a racist Forrest Gump into a folk hero, and allowing him to turn you out and bend you over the corral? Cuz...thats what you actually managed to accomplish in this action you love and support so much. Oh...sure...you managed to kill a few cows...but...other than that...you sure showed him, boy...didncha!

Its sad you still think that was their best bet and the right thing to do.

Yes, thats what I mean. Do you think they should restore rule of law, even if the cost of doing so is greater than the fees collected, simply because rule of law is important to a civilized society. Or in other words can you place a value on not allowing your police to be forced out of an area due to the actions of a non-government organization which has amassed a lot of firepower? I said before this is beyond the unpaid grazing fees, this is about whether or not this part of Nevada will have law enforcement or if it won't.

Also I respect Forrest Gump more than that.

Also whats' with all the "you's" I'm not personally involved in this?
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

Do you think then that restoring rule of law to this area of Nevada is important and worth the cost?

We could treat it like illegal immigrants and forgive the current ones with promises to do better in the future. ;)

Both problems seem to stem from allowing something illegal to continue for 20 years and then deciding to act.
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

Yes, thats what I mean. Do you think they should restore rule of law, even if the cost of doing so is greater than the fees collected, simply because rule of law is important to a civilized society. Or in other words can you place a value on not allowing your police to be forced out of an area due to the actions of a non-government organization which has amassed a lot of firepower? I said before this is beyond the unpaid grazing fees, this is about whether or not this part of Nevada will have law enforcement or if it won't.

Also I respect Forrest Gump more than that.

Also whats' with all the "you's" I'm not personally involved in this?
So...the administration is kinda screwed then. According to you and people like you...that was it, man. That was the best thing to do. The right thing to do. And they failed miserably. So...NOW what? You dont think they might have to actually come up with some OTHER idea that might actually be EFFECTIVE and not make the administration look even MORE clownlike in their failure to deal with a scofflaw cattle rancher in the Nevada desert, do you?
 
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We could treat it like illegal immigrants and forgive the current ones with promises to do better in the future. ;)

Both problems seem to stem from allowing something illegal to continue for 20 years and then deciding to act.
Oh no you didnt!

:lamo
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

LOL... no... but the government has done a bang-up job giving "assistance."
Just look at the enslaving rot it has created. Or are you unfamiliar of what a tremendous job government and its community organizers have done? Which was Bundy's point... clearly evident except for those who prefer to defend their being mislead by the vile and deplorable NYT.


The message was one of compassion, respect and disgust for the plight of people enslaved by a government that has done tremendous damage.

I wonder... did Obama's mentor and his best buddy, two racists... disgust you enough not to vote for him twice?
Why do you support someone mentored by a racist?

Tell you what, show us something that they said that was racist and we'll presume that you aren't an ignorant race baiter.
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

Oh yes I did! ;)
I assure you...the law and order minded liberals will be demanding ACTION on those breaking the law...ummmmmmmm.....never.

Thats why the foolish fairy tale hypothesis offered regarding government action against gangs was such a joke. As if...
 
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We could treat it like illegal immigrants and forgive the current ones with promises to do better in the future. ;)

Both problems seem to stem from allowing something illegal to continue for 20 years and then deciding to act.

And that is the main reason the use of force by the government in this example was excessive. The picking and choosing of what we are going to use the government hammer on is ridiculous nowadays.

I don't excuse Bundy's actions one bit, but then I don't excuse the government's actions either. Both are in the wrong.
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

Tell you what, show us something that they said that was racist and we'll presume that you aren't an ignorant race baiter.

You seriously ignorant or just playing dumb?
 
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You seriously ignorant or just playing dumb?
Are you too dumb to answer the question or too ignorant to know what it asks, again, show a racist statement or go crawl away...
 
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And that is the main reason the use of force by the government in this example was excessive. The picking and choosing of what we are going to use the government hammer on is ridiculous nowadays.

I don't excuse Bundy's actions one bit, but then I don't excuse the government's actions either. Both are in the wrong.

Doesn't it sort of set a dangerous precedent that people can just arm themselves to the teeth and threaten violence any time law enforcement comes after them for breaking the law?
 
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And that is the main reason the use of force by the government in this example was excessive. The picking and choosing of what we are going to use the government hammer on is ridiculous nowadays.

I don't excuse Bundy's actions one bit, but then I don't excuse the government's actions either. Both are in the wrong.

Note the twisted reasoning used for selective law enforcement - lack of "resources". Gov't can simply say that it cannot accomplish X unless it is given more power and money to do so. Never mind that in order to let someone breaking the law go then you needed to have caught them in the first place. ;)
 
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Doesn't it sort of set a dangerous precedent that people can just arm themselves to the teeth and threaten violence any time law enforcement comes after them for breaking the law?

Um, is this a call for gun control? ;)
 
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And it was ignored by Bundy starting when?

And let me ask you. WHY...considering it was MOOT who attempted to press responsibility for the administrations actions onto BUSH did you ignore HER and feel the need to comment on MY response TO her?

VERY...telling...

Mopping up after other presidents failures is taking responsibility. Its very telling that anything that has to do with 'responsibility' seems to fly right over head. Very telling, indeed.
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

Um, is this a call for gun control? ;)

No.

Just because I don't support a group of individuals who think they can point guns at law enforcement, threaten violence, and threaten to put women and children at the front lines of that violence, does not mean that I am making a call for gun control.

But, now that you brought it up: Usually those on the anti-gun control side speak highly of themselves as "law-abiding citizens" and how the government should not infringe on the rights of law-abiding citizens. The Cliven Bundy case seems to contradict this "law-abiding citizen" scenario.
 
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Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

Are you too dumb to answer the question or too ignorant to know what it asks, again, show a racist statement or go crawl away...

May I introduce you to www.google.com, it seems like you're not familiar with it.

When your arrive at Google ... type in "Rev. Wright racist comments", and the next time "Louis Farrakhan racist comments" and you will be greeted with ample evidence. Or just go to http://en.wikipedia.org, perhaps a novel thing for you too.

You do know of Louis Farrakhan, the racist given a lifetime achievement award by his racist buddy Reverend Wright? Two peas in a pod... one a mentor to The Audacity of a Dope, the other his sidekick.

You won't go too far here denying the obvious, that Wright and Farrakhan are racists... hell the Commi-Libs don't even try.
I think you might do better at www.democraticunderground.com
 
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It's all about cost? What happened to rule of law? You guys used to make a big deal of that but now? I guess it is all a matter of WHO is enforcing the law not the laws themselves. The Govt. acted correctly and competently. I suppose you would have rather had a shoot out so you could bitch about it like Ruby Ridge.

So then you MUST agree that rounding up all illegal aliens no matter the cost NEEDS to happen no matter the cost since it is the law of the land!
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

No, it's really not.

Not supporting a group of individuals who point guns at law enforcement, threaten violence, and threaten to put women and children at the front lines of the violence does not equate to me calling for gun control.

I'm no supporter of Bundy,but I have yet to see any pics of them putting woman and children in front of them....
 
Re: Bundy questioned whether blacks were better off as slaves

May I introduce you to Google, it seems like you're not familiar with it.

When your arrive at Google ... type in "Rev. Wright racist comments", and the next time "Louis Farrakhan racist comments" and you will be greeted with ample evidence. Or just go to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, perhaps a novel thing for you too.

You do know of Louis Farrakhan, the racist given a lifetime achievement award by his racist buddy Reverend Wright? Two peas in a pod... one a mentor to The Audacity of a Dope, the other his sidekick.

You won't go too far here denying the obvious, that Wright and Farrakhan are racists... hell the Commi-Libs don't even try.
I think you might do better at Democratic Underground

Pretty obvious, you are falling into the ignorant category. You made the assertion that two individuals were racist, therefore it's YOUR obligation to back up your statement with facts. You have failed to do so (not surprising) and yet attempt to pass off your responsibility to back up your claims onto me.

Doesn't work that way buddy, you made the statement, post the quotes or go crawl away.
 
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