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Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’[W:254:298:850,989]

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j-mac said:
From your second link...

"On May 16th, 2014, Citizens across the country will converge on the Washington D.C. mall to demand the restoration of our Constitutional Republic, Rule of Law, Freedom, Liberty "of The People, for The People, by The People" from overreaching and corrupt federal leadership."

Ooooooh, Yes, yes....terror....They're planning a march....Ooooooh! :shock:
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Now you sound just like the occupiers. Suckered by a good sound bite while ignoring the crazy ass ****. Read the first link. it goes on about re-location camps and the concept of overthrowing the government and appointing Tea Party Republicans in its place. It is a loony tunes speech that touches on many ultra right wing extremists talking points. But sure they are peaceful asses that mean no harm right? "We do not condone or expect violence to occur; it is up to you and your family to be physically able and prepared for all contingencies." The occupiers said the same thing. They tried real hard to make the government shoot them with rubber bullets and pepper spray for those good pr points. Its just in this case our friendly militia groups have said over and over that they will use force if the government does. Of course it wont matter to them that they provoked violence through strategic planning. Just like the Bundy's screaming making threats and pushing BLM agents was designed to provoke a reaction. SO that wimpy son of clivens could pull his shirt down and make a face.

The point of the protest in DC is to try and take over the Government.

“Those with the principles of a West, Cruz, Lee, DeMint, Paul, Gov Walker, Sessions, Gowdy, Jordan, Issa, will comprise a tribunal and assume positions of authority to convene investigations, recommend appropriate charges against politicians and government employees to the new U.S. Attorney General appointed by the new President.”

Indeed the so called Bundy supporters are terrorists of this nation they want to take over our government and do what they please. I say bull****. They want to draw a line in the sand then I will oblige their threat and consider them my mortal enemy and will bear arms against their treasonous asses. I am tired of listening to people that basically spit on my forefathers graves. I see no reason to put aside my patriotism, in fact I see great reason to stand up for the US Constitution and defend it from the likes of these Tea Party ****s that want to shred it.
 
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Personally, I figured that Cliven would come out with an anti semitic rant about the "joos" first, but, he is old school, he just can't understand why them "negroes" don't want to be out picking cotton and working as servants.

But, will Hannity and Levin and Limbaugh and Drudge disassociate fast enough?

LOL
 
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FreedomFromAll said:
Now you sound just like the occupiers. Suckered by a good sound bite while ignoring the crazy ass ****. Read the first link. it goes on about re-location camps and the concept of overthrowing the government and appointing Tea Party Republicans in its place. It is a loony tunes speech that touches on many ultra right wing extremists talking points. But sure they are peaceful asses that mean no harm right? "We do not condone or expect violence to occur; it is up to you and your family to be physically able and prepared for all contingencies." The occupiers said the same thing. They tried real hard to make the government shoot them with rubber bullets and pepper spray for those good pr points. Its just in this case our friendly militia groups have said over and over that they will use force if the government does. Of course it wont matter to them that they provoked violence through strategic planning. Just like the Bundy's screaming making threats and pushing BLM agents was designed to provoke a reaction. SO that wimpy son of clivens could pull his shirt down and make a face.

The point of the protest in DC is to try and take over the Government.

“Those with the principles of a West, Cruz, Lee, DeMint, Paul, Gov Walker, Sessions, Gowdy, Jordan, Issa, will comprise a tribunal and assume positions of authority to convene investigations, recommend appropriate charges against politicians and government employees to the new U.S. Attorney General appointed by the new President.”

Indeed the so called Bundy supporters are terrorists of this nation they want to take over our government and do what they please. I say bull****. They want to draw a line in the sand then I will oblige their threat and consider them my mortal enemy and will bear arms against their treasonous asses. I am tired of listening to people that basically spit on my forefathers graves. I see no reason to put aside my patriotism, in fact I see great reason to stand up for the US Constitution and defend it from the likes of these Tea Party ****s that want to shred it.
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Were you fine with those "principles" when the Weather Underground held them?
 
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j-mac said:
Sol Alinsky would be proud of you....
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His words, not mine. He freely pontificated his views on the subject.

Get a new hero, yours looks worse every day.
 
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j-mac said:
Were you fine with those "principles" when the Weather Underground held them?
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It was always my opinion that the Weather Underground should have been shot for the treasonous pigs that they were.

I oppose anti Americans no matter what political backing or lean that they exploit.

At first the Democrats for some naive reason backed the occupiers up until they learned what a bunch of anti Americans that they were. The Republicans that support the Bundy's will run away as soon as they realize what they are all about. All I need to do is let the Bundy's and their supporters (militia/tea party) have the microphone long enough for them to show their true colors. By the time this is all over the Tea Party will be shoved back to the fringes where it came from. Just like how the Green party and other Socialist groups were shoved back to the fringe after Occupy Wall street fizzled out because everyone now knows that they were Socialists and Anarchists.

The Bundy Ranch and the upcoming Operation American Spring are Militia events being backed by the Tea Party. The Tea Party are idiots to align themselves with Militia and Confederate State Rights fools. Its the worst strategy in the worst possible time. I bet the Democrats are cumming in their pants right now just like the Republicans were with OWS.

And people wonder why I wont join any political party? Just take a good look at any political party anywhere not just the US but anywhere, they are all corrupt to a certain extent. But that is how collectives work isnt it?
 
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Conservatives begin backing away after Cliven Bundy’s remarks disparaging ‘the Negro’
By Arturo Garcia
Thursday, April 24, 2014 0:45 EDT

Republican politicians began backtracking on their support of Nevada anti-government rancher Cliven Bundy after the New York Times caught Bundy making racially-inflammatory remarks blaming African-Americans for willingly submiting to dependency on federal assistance.

“They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton,” Bundy was quoted as saying to a group of supporters last Saturday. “And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

Conservatives begin backing away after Cliven Bundy’s remarks disparaging ‘the Negro’
 
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Rand Paul Steps Away From Bundy: 'I Wholeheartedly Disagree'

Dylan Scott – April 24, 2014, 9:04 AM EDT

U.S. Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) sought to distance himself Thursday from Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy after the latter's racially charged comments.

"His remarks on race are offensive and I wholeheartedly disagree with him," Paul told Business Insider in a statement.

Bundy had openly wondered last weekend if black people had been "better off slaves" in comments reported Wednesday by the New York Times.

Rand Paul Steps Away From Bundy: 'I Wholeheartedly Disagree'
 
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beefheart said:
Rand Paul Steps Away From Bundy: 'I Wholeheartedly Disagree'

Dylan Scott – April 24, 2014, 9:04 AM EDT

U.S. Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) sought to distance himself Thursday from Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy after the latter's racially charged comments.

"His remarks on race are offensive and I wholeheartedly disagree with him," Paul told Business Insider in a statement.

Bundy had openly wondered last weekend if black people had been "better off slaves" in comments reported Wednesday by the New York Times.

Rand Paul Steps Away From Bundy: 'I Wholeheartedly Disagree'
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The funny part is that there is more to come lol.
 
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beefheart said:
His words, not mine. He freely pontificated his views on the subject.

Get a new hero, yours looks worse every day.
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There is a segment of Bundy's supporters who will double down on their devotion to him now that he has been outed as an asshole racist.
What you and I and most politicians would consider an enormous embarrassment is seen as an asset to the racist part of the Tee Party. To them Bundy becomes a bigger hero. Those who support him now are showing their true colors.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
Who's Alinsky? Was he one of the BLM officers?
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He wrote a book that Dick Armey gave out to all his top Freedomworks/Tea Party officers. They also produced a stripped down version, Rule for Patriots, to hand out by the thousands to Tea Party volunteers.

Alinski is also frequently invoked as an all purpose defense when a right winger gets caught acting like an idiot and is criticized. As far as I can tell, the appropriate use of "Alinski!" is as follows:

"If the facts are on your side, pound the facts. If the law, pound the law. If neither, scream "ALINSKI!!"
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
FFS....are you blind? Multiple images show that the (WHITE) vehicles and uniformed personnel beyond the crowd under the bridge.....ARE LE....who the militia member has his rifle pointed towards.


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He may have the rifle in that direction but he is most likely just using his scope as binoculars....not that I agree it's a good idea or ok but, I seriously doubt he's ready to fire. Just not smart enough to bring binoculars.
 
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beefheart said:
His words, not mine. He freely pontificated his views on the subject.

Get a new hero, yours looks worse every day.
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Who said he's my "hero"? Another lie from you.
 
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MACS-24 said:
He may have the rifle in that direction but he is most likely just using his scope as binoculars....not that I agree it's a good idea or ok but, I seriously doubt he's ready to fire. Just not smart enough to bring binoculars.
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Not to mention at that point the BLM was threatening to gun down the crowd....

If the BLM started shooting they were ready to shoot back.

But no, siccing dogs on pregnant women, beating up people and then threatening to shoot them is what the good guys do.
 
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MACS-24 said:
He may have the rifle in that direction but he is most likely just using his scope as binoculars....not that I agree it's a good idea or ok but, I seriously doubt he's ready to fire. Just not smart enough to bring binoculars.
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Sorry but no...
There is no scope on that rifle.
All he could be doing with open sights is aiming his weapon at someone.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
Sorry but no...
There is no scope on that rifle.
All he could be doing with open sights is aiming his weapon at someone.
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Okay, I just saw that little picture. Some how I kept missing that one. Post 938? I think it was. Now a bigger idiot; no scope, no binoculars and probably no bullets. :lol:
 
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BmanMcfly said:
Not to mention at that point the BLM was threatening to gun down the crowd....

If the BLM started shooting they were ready to shoot back.

But no, siccing dogs on pregnant women, beating up people and then threatening to shoot them is what the good guys do.
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I havent seem any evidence that the BLM threatened to shot anyone. Unless you have that evidence then you are just spreading rumors.

And nothing on infowars will be considered evidence. Nor some conspiracy site or anti American militia site will count either.
 
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FreedomFromAll said:
I havent seem any evidence that the BLM threatened to shot anyone. Unless you have that evidence then you are just spreading rumors.

And nothing on infowars will be considered evidence. Nor some conspiracy site or anti American militia site will count either.
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Well, there were a fee people who had video cameras working, it's hard to make out but they were telling people that they WOULD SHOOT people approaching that fence.

The audio is there... you can find your own sources since you will scrutinize any source. The statements made were that deadly force had been authorized or to that effect.... audio recordings at a distance from a horn is going to be of low quality.

Gotta love the open mindedness of your position. Why didn't you tell me that I could only use a source from msnbcnn?
 
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calamity said:
DEA, ATF, DOE DOLM...I guess they all have an enforcement division. It is what it is. THis is what happens when Right Wingers approve a thing called the War on Drugs, which began the militarization of the domestic arms of the Federal Government.
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so arming the DEA you have problems with BUT arming the DOE your cool with? you have got to be kidding me! unbelievable
 
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BmanMcfly said:
Well, there were a fee people who had video cameras working, it's hard to make out but they were telling people that they WOULD SHOOT people approaching that fence.

The audio is there... you can find your own sources since you will scrutinize any source. The statements made were that deadly force had been authorized or to that effect.... audio recordings at a distance from a horn is going to be of low quality.

Gotta love the open mindedness of your position. Why didn't you tell me that I could only use a source from msnbcnn?
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I dont believe that conspiracy sites like infowars are relevant except to show their nuttiness. And militia groups are not much more than conspiracy nuts with guns.
Unfortunately right now some conspiracy/militia nuts are planning some domestic terrorism as we speak. After all they want to start a revolution to rid the world of the Illuminati or whatever paranoid voices in their heads are telling them what to do.

And for the record I did not say that I wanted anything from mainstream media, that was just your assumption.
But I take it that your source was on some conspiracy/militia site huh? Or at least by one of those nuts on youtube right? At any rate it wasnt compelling enough to stand up to scrutiny now was it? I even did as you suggested and searched but came up empty ..oh well.
 
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votemout said:
so arming the DEA you have problems with BUT arming the DOE your cool with? you have got to be kidding me! unbelievable
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DOE oversees nuclear weapons testing and design and production. I'm ok with them being armed.
 
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FreedomFromAll said:
I dont believe that conspiracy sites like infowars are relevant except to show their nuttiness. And militia groups are not much more than conspiracy nuts with guns.
Unfortunately right now some conspiracy/militia nuts are planning some domestic terrorism as we speak. After all they want to start a revolution to rid the world of the Illuminati or whatever paranoid voices in their heads are telling them what to do.
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Where to start... it would be so much easier to call you stupid, but that wouldn't help...

Let's start with your conspiracy theory... that militia groups are planning acts of domestic terrorism.

Where did you get that information?

Next, that they are planning a revolution?

Furthermore, you claim that the militias were the aggressors here? Where's the evidence of that?

And finally, that these militias are filled with people having paranoid delusions, hearing voices in their heads. I don't suppose you have evidence for that either?


And for the record I did not say that I wanted anything from mainstream media, that was just your assumption.
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Oh ya, my assumption?

Who was on the scene?

- fox
- CAN
- MSNBC
- Militia members
- infowars reporters
- the bundy family

The Bundy's were not recording video, and you don't want to see what infowars or the militia members put out there... what does that leave us with?

But I take it that your source was on some conspiracy/militia site huh? Or at least by one of those nuts on youtube right? At any rate it wasnt compelling enough to stand up to scrutiny now was it? I even did as you suggested and searched but came up empty ..oh well.
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My sources have been raw video, but you added so many caveats that it's best that you do your own search so that you can't accuse me of bias.

It is there, and there's more than one version of that audio, which as I said capturing audio off a loudspeaker in the distance is not going to make for a quality recording.

The only conclusion I could garner was that these agents, when they stood down, were trying to get the protesters to escalate so that the swat teams could come in to mow down the crowd.

The fact is that those agents under the bridge would not stand a chance having taken the low ground, would not have stood a chance, but the response would have been to kill all the protesters.

Now, for your conspiracy theory that these guys are wanting to kill government people to start a revolution, well, they had the perfect chance to start shooting, but didn't... why is that?
 
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Buck Ewer said:
The SWAT teams and armed troops were brought in as a response to militia groups being called to arms by Bundy organizers from across the country.
Their terrorist tactics using women and children as shields in their armed confrontation with law enforcement and the bombing of US Forest Service offices was accurately described by Senator Reid.
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That is false. The BLM brought armed response to begin with.
 
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