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Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’[W:254:298:850,989]

Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

beefheart said:
If you have the time to drive cross country to camp out, you have no job, if you leave your family to drive out there, you are no kind of parent.

Read the article in the LV Sun today, I'd link it, but I'm on a tablet. People leaving wives and kids, driving from all over to camp out and play pretend plastic patriot.

These are not good people, they are nuts that followed the same crap McVeigh and Nichols did.
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So in other words, no link to back it up.
 
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apdst said:
How many people were robbed and raped at the Occutard emcampments?

Who claimed that there, "is no government"?
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Hoe many OWS members were carrying .358's or 50 calibre guns? How many were aiming them at the police? How many were defending a tax protesting nut who doesn't believe the federal government?

Quit while you are behind, you are desperate.
 
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tres borrachos said:
So in other words, no link to back it up.
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Go to the Las Vegas Sun, read the article called "The world through militia eyes" It is on the front page.

That backs it up...do I have to do EVERYTHING for you?
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

beefheart said:
Go to the Las Vegas Sun, read the article called "The world through militia eyes" It is on the front page.

That backs it up...do I have to do EVERYTHING for you?
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I read it. It doesn't back it up, sorry.

You said they had no families, then you go on to say they left their families and are bad parents. You contradict yourself.

Just because people go out there doesn't mean they have no jobs either. In fact, in reading the article, it doesn't say they're all on welfare, or did I miss something?
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

beefheart said:
Hoe many OWS members were carrying .358's or 50 calibre guns? How many were aiming them at the police? How many were defending a tax protesting nut who doesn't believe the federal government? Quit while you are behind, you are desperate.
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You never answered his question.
 
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beefheart said:
The civil rights marchers weren't armed and claiming that there is no government and that they are sovereign and that they would shoot federal agents. Same goes for OWS.

You need a better hero.
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Guns are not necessary to hurt someone. I don't remember any BLM folks getting hurt like this guy during a left wing protest in Seattle.

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Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

tres borrachos said:
I read it. It doesn't back it up, sorry.

You said they had no families, then you go on to say they left their families and are bad parents. You contradict yourself.

Just because people go out there doesn't mean they have no jobs either. In fact, in reading the article, it doesn't say they're all on welfare, or did I miss something?
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I never said they were all on welfare did I? Yes, you missed something.
 
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Grant said:
You never answered his question.
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His OWS question was not germane to this, it was just a cheap attempt to swerve away from the topic at hand. Pretty lame attempt...LOL

Maybe you should leave your job and go out to the desert to defend your deadbeat hero.
 
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beefheart said:
I never said they were all on welfare did I? Yes, you missed something.
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You said they had no jobs. That article never said they had no jobs. And if they have no jobs, are they on unemployment, or are they trust babies?
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

beefheart said:
His OWS question was not germane to this, it was just a cheap attempt to swerve away from the topic at hand. Pretty lame attempt...LOL

Maybe you should leave your job and go out to the desert to defend your deadbeat hero.
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You want to pretend that violence by the left is A-OK. Gotcha.
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

beefheart said:
Hoe many OWS members were carrying .358's or 50 calibre guns? How many were aiming them at the police? How many were defending a tax protesting nut who doesn't believe the federal government?

Quit while you are behind, you are desperate.
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You seem to believe the federal government. Is this true?
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

beefheart said:
Hoe many OWS members were carrying .358's or 50 calibre guns? How many were aiming them at the police? How many were defending a tax protesting nut who doesn't believe the federal government?

Quit while you are behind, you are desperate.
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Well, let's see! Wanna?

5/1/12: FBI Arrests Five Protesters Associated with Occupy Cleveland in Bomb Plot
The FBI arrested five men who were planning to bomb a bridge over Cuyahoga Valley National Park. The men are self-described members of Occupy Cleveland.
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5/1/12: Violence in Seattle
In Seattle, more than a dozen protesters were arrested after violent attacks on local businesses. Seattle police recovered homemade incendiary devices from the scenes of the attacks. Vandals in Seattle smashed the entrances to the Niketown and American Apparel stores.
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11/21/11: Occupy London Cited for Defecation, Drugs, and Sex Offenders
The City of London Corporation has filed documents as part of an effort to evict the protesters from St. Paul’s Cathedral. According to the police, “members of the camp [have been] continually urinating through the fence of the Chapter House and the Cathedral itself.” There have also been arrests for “possession of a bladed article, failing to register a new address under the Sexual Offences Act, theft, assault (on) police, breach of bail, breach of the peace, (being) drunk and disorderly and possession of drugs.” Remember, this is all taking place within St. Paul’s Cathedral, one of the most important historical landmarks in England.
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11/20/11: Violence and Illegal Gunsat Occupy Wall Street
The NYPD arrested Joshua Fellows, 32, of Youngstown, Ohio, for criminal possession of a weapon. He had been driving around Wall Street with an unregistered .45 caliber handgun and 32 rounds of ammunition. Four other protesters were arrested this weekend: Zach Breur, 22, was arrested for allegedly groping the breasts and buttocks of a 22-year-old woman. He was charged with two counts of forcible touching. Michael Doe, a homeless man, was arrested for tampering with the Christmas lights in the park. Another homeless man was also arrested for throwing an unknown liquid into the eyes of a police officer. Finally, Star Bun, 24, of Brooklyn, was arrested for trying to bring sleeping gear into Zuccotti Park. She was charged with criminal trespass and resisting arrest.
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This is my favorite...

11/20/11: Bomb Threat at Occupy Fort Myers
Ryan Komosinski, 22, of Cape Coral, Florida, was arrested for threatening to bomb the Fort Myers police department. After a Facebook search, the police found a comment posted by Komosinksi that announced: “I’m bombing the FMPD, [expletive] them.” Komosinski was reportedly enraged over the arrest of fellow protester Constance Galati, who was arrested on Thursday for trespassing, resisting arrest, and assaulting an officer. But not to worry, fellow protesters insist that Ryan Komosinksi is “a very good kid.”
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Shall I continue? Why, sure!

11/18/11: Woman Assaulted for Refusing to Join Occupy Protest at UC Berkeley
A female student was assaulted by a man at UC Berkeley after she refused to join the protest on Sproul Plaza. The suspect yelled, “people like you are the reason that California is in debt,” and then threw a full aluminum bottle at the woman’s face. The student called the police, who were unable to locate the suspect on the scene.
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11/17/11: Occupy Wall Street Protesters Threaten Children
Occupy Wall Street protesters threatened small children, some as young as four, as they attempted to get to school. The children were forced to walk a gauntlet in between screaming protesters and the police as they attempted to reach their school. Some of the protesters yelled, “Follow those kids,” and attempted to frighten their parents.
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Bombs, guns, rape, murder, assault, intimidation of four years olds. I'm sure you're proud!

There are more in the link. Um...enjoy!

Occupy Wall Street Blotter | National Review Online
 
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Interesting that right wingers are supporting a welfare wingnut who believes laws just don't apply to him. The land isn't his, but somehow he's got this idea that he gets to 1) use land someone else owns for free, or 2) at least dictate the terms of the use of land someone else owns. I would guess Bundy believes in property rights if it's his property - if the Feds own it, that makes the land his, to exploit as he sees fit?

I can see objections to the way the Feds handled this, but they've been to court multiple times, he's lost, and then defied the orders. Not exactly sure what the 'right' way to deal with a guy who just disregards laws and court orders. But even if the Feds handled it poorly, I still don't see why anyone supports this whackadoodle, and I sure as hell can't see supporting the armed people who came out to support him. What's the righteous cause they're bringing out the AR-15s to support - free grazing? As far as I can tell, the only 'cause' is a generalized contempt for the Feds.
 
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Here's one of my favorites:

Zot L. Szurgot allegedly walked out of her house naked, turned to five of her neighbors and started wagging her penis.

Szurgot, a 52-year-old transgender man who identifies as both a man and a woman, was arrested Wednesday by the Alachua County Sheriff’s Office for indecent exposure and lewd behavior.

Of the five people who saw Szurgot’s sexual equipment, one was a 10-year-old boy. Another was his 4-year-old sister.

Szurgot stood about 100 feet from her neighbors, an arrest report states, completely nude.

The boy told officers “the man was naked and shook his wee-wee at me.”

The children’s mother said she wanted to press charges, as did another adult who said he saw more of Szurgot than he preferred, according to police.

On her Facebook page, Szurgot cites Occupy Gainesville as her employer
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Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

JasperL said:
Interesting that right wingers are supporting a welfare wingnut who believes laws just don't apply to him. The land isn't his, but somehow he's got this idea that he gets to 1) use land someone else owns for free, or 2) at least dictate the terms of the use of land someone else owns. I would guess Bundy believes in property rights if it's his property - if the Feds own it, that makes the land his, to exploit as he sees fit?

I can see objections to the way the Feds handled this, but they've been to court multiple times, he's lost, and then defied the orders. Not exactly sure what the 'right' way to deal with a guy who just disregards laws and court orders. But even if the Feds handled it poorly, I still don't see why anyone supports this whackadoodle, and I sure as hell can't see supporting the armed people who came out to support him. What's the righteous cause they're bringing out the AR-15s to support - free grazing? As far as I can tell, the only 'cause' is a generalized contempt for the Feds.
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Bundy recieves welfare?
 
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Texmex said:
You mean Bundy is willing to cut the grass on this land and not charge the government for his services?
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LOL that's an ... interesting way of looking at it.
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

Texmex said:
You mean Bundy is willing to cut the grass on this land and not charge the government for his services?
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You just defined the stupidity of the government's position.
 
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apdst said:
Bundy recieves welfare?
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He's grazing on Federal land for free. The benefits total roughly $300,000 by Bundy's count, roughly $15,000 per year. What should we call his freeloading?
 
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"These folks" were openly committing armed insurrection.
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

apdst said:
Neither were these folks.
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Oh, that's right, they were probably just semi-automatic, which is OK when pointed at Federal agents...
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

JasperL said:
He's grazing on Federal land for free. The benefits total roughly $300,000 by Bundy's count, roughly $15,000 per year. What should we call his freeloading?
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How much does it cost for him to graze his cows on that land?
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

JasperL said:
Oh, that's right, they were probably just semi-automatic, which is OK when pointed at Federal agents...
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It's not ok for the Feds to fire upon American citizens with automatic weapons. In fact, it's illegal.
 
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