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Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’[W:254:298:850,989]

Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

Buck Ewer said:
The federal agents stuck by the principal that illegal cattle grazing was not worth the loss of life that day. The militiamen clearly had another agenda and principal at play.
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The FED's would've been crucified in the Press, if they'd had another Ruby Ridge. They arbitrarily, after 20 some years, decide to enforce the grazing fee's? Something about this was completely political. I read where Reid has some interest in a solar panel company wanting the land?

They need to work something out with this guy in a reasonable, non confrontational way, instead of playing the heavy hand.
 
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grip said:
The FED's would've been crucified in the Press, if they'd had another Ruby Ridge. They arbitrarily, after 20 some years, decide to enforce the grazing fee's? Something about this was completely political. I read where Reid has some interest in a solar panel company wanting the land?

They need to work something out with this guy in a reasonable, non confrontational way, instead of playing the heavy hand.
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It was hardly "arbitrary." The govt. tried other avenues for years.

Reid's son has a deal regarding a solar facility; however, the land in question with Bundy is ~150 miles away from that site.

Facts that disprove conspiracy theory about Harry Reid, Cliven Bundy and solar power - Las Vegas Sun News
 
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Grant said:
It might just be a coincidence but it seems that the people who supported the SWAT team that invaded the guy who supposedly made the anti Muslim video that caused Benghazi are the same people who support the SWAT teams going up against this Nevada rancher and his supporters. Now that they're labelled 'terrorists' by a very powerful Democrat politician that support will probably grow. They'll show them who's boss!
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I can not imagine a more awkward and convoluted argument attempting to draw Benghazi into this debate.
WOW!
 
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Grant said:
It might just be a coincidence but it seems that the people who supported the SWAT team that invaded the guy who supposedly made the anti Muslim video that caused Benghazi are the same people who support the SWAT teams going up against this Nevada rancher and his supporters. Now that they're labelled 'terrorists' by a very powerful Democrat politician that support will probably grow. They'll show them who's boss!
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What in the what.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
I can not imagine a more awkward and convoluted argument attempting to draw Benghazi into this debate.
WOW!
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The comment was about SWAT teams and those who support them. If you want to discuss Benghazi try another thread.
 
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grip said:
The FED's would've been crucified in the Press, if they'd had another Ruby Ridge. They arbitrarily, after 20 some years, decide to enforce the grazing fee's? Something about this was completely political. I read where Reid has some interest in a solar panel company wanting the land?

They need to work something out with this guy in a reasonable, non confrontational way, instead of playing the heavy hand.
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The solar project is slated for land hundreds of miles away from there.
The court proceedings have played out over twenty years and Bundy lost at every turn. He continues to break the law in a case that he has clearly lost in due process.
What should the federal regulators of the land he is taking advantage of do?
Give one good reason why the feds should allow this and all public land in their care to become a free for all.
 
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Grant said:
The comment was about SWAT teams and those who support them. If you want to discuss Benghazi try another thread.
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BLM agents with tazers to protect themselves are hardly a "swat team" by anyone's definitions...
You brought up Benghazi ...not me...
 
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Kobie said:
It was hardly "arbitrary." The govt. tried other avenues for years.

Reid's son has a deal regarding a solar facility; however, the land in question with Bundy is ~150 miles away from that site.

Facts that disprove conspiracy theory about Harry Reid, Cliven Bundy and solar power - Las Vegas Sun News
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Uh huh, something doesn't jive here. I don't lean much one way or the other, except I don't see how cows eating some grass on unused land is really hurting the BLM? This is really not a good move Reid is pursuing politically for the Dems, if that is a consideration? Bet it is. ;)
 
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Buck Ewer said:
BLM agents with tazers to protect themselves are hardly a "swat team" by anyone's definitions...
You brought up Benghazi ...not me...
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Are leftists so very thick that they cannot understand analogies even after it's been explained?

Charter Schools now!!
 
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Grant said:
A 150 miles away? Well that clears him!!
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I'd say it dispenses with this silly little conspiracy theory.
 
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Grant said:
Are leftists so very thick that they cannot understand analogies even after it's been explained?

Charter Schools now!!
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It was a painfully stupid analogy.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
The solar project is slated for land hundreds of miles away from there.
The court proceedings have played out over twenty years and Bundy lost at every turn. He continues to break the law in a case that he has clearly lost in due process.
What should the federal regulators of the land he is taking advantage of do?
Give one good reason why the feds should allow this and all public land in their care to become a free for all.
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Seems like too much co_inky_dink. If Bundy is really just a dimwit law breaker, flipping the gov the finger, then they should eventually fine him and seize his assets. I don't know enough actual detail, except a bunch of repeated Google poo. It could also be an early indicator of citizen dissatisfaction, with heavy handed government meddling and state interventionism. Smacks almost of Eminent domain type of control crazy agencies.
 
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Grant said:
Yes, you would say that.
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The fact that the land in question with Bundy and the land in question with the now-stalled solar deal are totally different parcels of land separated by 150 miles doesn't debunk this theory?
 
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grip said:
Seems like too much co_inky_dink. If Bundy is really just a dimwit law breaker, flipping the gov the finger, then they should eventually fine him and seize his assets. I don't know enough actual detail, except a bunch of repeated Google poo. It could also be an early indicator of citizen dissatisfaction, with heavy handed government meddling and state interventionism. Smacks almost of Eminent domain type of control crazy agencies.
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That's what they were doing!!!
 
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lizzie said:
That's what those who think as you do would have been saying about American revolutionaries too. If it hadn't been for people who had the guts to say no to those in power, we'd still be paying the royals, rather than eating up the tabloid crap about them.

Nobody WANTS to start a war, but if you aren't willing to fight when you believe your rights are being trampled on, then you are not only a coward, but you just keep giving up more until there's nothing left to fight for.
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What rights of Bundy's are being trampled on? The right to surround himself with armed people to prevent being served with a court order? The right to ignore grazing fees on public land for 20 years? Every other rancher who grazes on public land manages to fork up the $1.37/head/month fee without going bankrupt. Why is he special? Seriously, I'm really curious.

Edit: Bah, never mind. Sorry, I should have made a point of seeing how long the thread was before posting. I'm sure my questions have little to do with what is being discussed by now. Apologies. :(
 
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Grant said:
Are leftists so very thick that they cannot understand analogies even after it's been explained?

Charter Schools now!!
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Grant said:
Are leftists so very thick that they cannot understand analogies even after it's been explained?

Charter Schools now!!
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You did a very poor job of explaining why Benghazi has anything to do with Bundy's cattle. Analogies generally contain the words "like " or "as" Your awkward convoluted rant did not pass that muster.
If you are an example of what a "charter school" produces I can't imagine why anyone would support such a thing.
 
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Kobie said:
That's what they were doing!!!
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I mean freeze bank accounts. If the guy is nothing but a gov hater and law breaker, I'm all for him being stopped. I'd just like for once to hear a story, without all the political demagoguery.

So far, I've heard that his family has used this land for a 100 years to feed their cattle. And that the state actually owns it, not the Fed's. Also, that all the other ranchers pay for their grazing fees and that none of them support him.
 
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Grant said:
Is it your understanding that solar deals must be less than 150 miles apart? How about 35 miles apart? Why is US Senator Harry Reid so concerned with a local Nevada rancher? | Fox News
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Did I say that?

I said the solar deal involving Reid's son (the one Reid "has ties to," according to the conspiracy theory picked up by Newsmax and the Washington Times) is on a plot of land 150 miles away. The other one (which Reid also "has ties to") is 35 miles away. That's still an entirely different plot of land.
 
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MAYBE THE BLM IS TAKING ALL THE LAND TO BUILD THE FEMA CAMPS

:conspiracy:
 
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DiAnna said:
What rights of Bundy's are being trampled on? The right to surround himself with armed people to prevent being served with a court order? The right to ignore grazing fees on public land for 20 years? Every other rancher who grazes on public land manages to fork up the $1.37/head/month fee without going bankrupt. Why is he special? Seriously, I'm really curious.

Edit: Bah, never mind. Sorry, I should have made a point of seeing how long the thread was before posting. I'm sure my questions have little to do with what is being discussed by now. Apologies. :(
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No apologies necessary DiAnna.
Your observations and questions are to the point and absolutely salient to the conversation.
None who support this freeloader have ever mentioned all the ranchers who pay their way and have had to watch this moocher get away with free grazing for 21 years.
How must they feel?
 
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