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Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’[W:254:298:850,989]

Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

Zyphlin said:
So wait, you're advocating for treating domestic terrorists as an enemy combatant, and thus not subject to constitutional protections such as a right to a fair trial or innocent until proven guilty?

So....we can drone strike members of ALF for example?
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mac said:
Colorado is breaking the law....arrest it.
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When you realize how dumb you sound let me know. The STATE isn't committing a crime. Now the people that are selling are in federal eyes. And they are free to.
 
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NIMBY said:
And how many of these armed militia burned-out cowards do you think had state and federal warrants out for them?
Shouldn't they all have had to show their permits, since they are all honest and legal ?
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You can't assume any did, and you don't need a permit in most states for any long arm.
 
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Jetboogieman said:
You really wanna put grazing fees on the same level as slavery?
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I don't need to. The "weight" of the law has no bearing on its acceptability.
 
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iliveonramen said:
You could obviously understand what I wrote. I apologize for not sufficiently proofreading before submitting my argument to some asshole over the internet.
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no, actually, what you wrote didn't make much sense....not even in asshole.

It doesn't matter if Bundy likes or dislike the law. It's the law.
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this is one of the dumbest, and laziest, excuses ever.

As far as using slavery as a "great example", the ending of Jim Crow is also another example where people used violence and intimidation to fight against federal laws they didn't like. So sometimes in retrospect we can judge the cause it never excuses the actual use or threatened use of force.
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Bad law is bad law no matter what it's about.
 
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AJiveMan said:
From your posts, I take it you're a Bundy supporter and anti government as well. You fall into the category of a Libbo IMHO because you're supporting a moocher, a deadbeat. And here, I thought conservatives were against that kind of thing.
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I oppose tyranny. Does Bundy rightfully owe the money? I don't know and I don't care. I do know that all the government would have had to do was place a lein on Bundy's ranch and everytime he took cows to market, they would have gotten an installment in the delinquent fees.

It didn't cost anyone a GOD DAMN dime for those cows to to eat grass in the desert, so stop with the moocher bull****.
 
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TheNextEra said:
When you realize how dumb you sound let me know. The STATE isn't committing a crime. Now the people that are selling are in federal eyes. And they are free to.
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Colorado, the way I used it was meant to imply the people of Colorado. So, they're free to break federal laws and bundy isn't?
 
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iliveonramen said:
I'm not going to defend elected officials but their main goal is to get re-elected. It seems as if people are pretty worked up over this issue....

I don't think anyone pointing a gun at public workers is heroic though.
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Having a gun on you and pointing a gun at someone are different things. I saw no reports that they pointed any guns at the federal agents.
 
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mac said:
Having a gun on you and pointing a gun at someone are different things. I saw no reports that they pointed any guns at the federal agents.
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That would be because they didn't.
 
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I would say these domestic terrorists fit the bill of being a terrorist since they threatened to use women as shields when the shooting started.
Why don't the Libertaryans call out this terrorist behavior ?
Henrin said:
Sure, the government came armed with guns and when meet with people armed with guns we find them bitching like little children all scared and **** of those people.
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ChezC3 said:
You got it twisted son. The cowards were the one's sicking dogs on pregnant women...

Get real.
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The cowards were the ones putting pregnant women in their front lines...
Who the **** brings their pregnant wife to a contrived confrontation but a ****ng coward?????
 
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mac said:
Colorado, the way I used it was meant to imply the people of Colorado. So, they're free to break federal laws and bundy isn't?
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You'll have to show me you know how to read and point to where I said that son.
 
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The sniper terrorist on the interstate overpass that closed down the interstate must have skipped right on by ya.
And now rightie websites are looking for more Bundy situations across the Nation, so they can be armed domestic terrorists .
tres borrachos said:
That would be because they didn't.
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mac said:
Having a gun on you and pointing a gun at someone are different things. I saw no reports that they pointed any guns at the federal agents.
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This asshole sure looks like he is drawing a bead.
 
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The reports and clips are easy to Google.
You have chosen not to see the domestic terrorist sniper on the overpass.
America has seen him and your 2nd amendment brand has forever been tarnished .
mac said:
Having a gun on you and pointing a gun at someone are different things. I saw no reports that they pointed any guns at the federal agents.
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Buck Ewer said:
The cowards were the ones putting pregnant women in their front lines...
Who the **** brings their pregnant wife to a contrived confrontation but a ****ng coward?????
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So you think the woman can't think for herself, and she was tossed into this by her husband against her will? A little sexist there, Buck. Are all pregnant women victims of their bullying, overbearing husbands, or just the ones too stupid to say no?
 
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The only thing I draw from this is that the Federal government has been too successful in pitting women against men, Black Against White, Urban against Suburban, State against State, left against right, everyone against corporations and the rich, and so on.

Maybe it's time to just settle down and point to the politicians, like Harry Reid, who encourage this sort of split among a people who were once proud of their country and each other.
 
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Grant said:
Maybe it's time to just settle down and point to the politicians, like Harry Reid, who encourage this sort of split among a people who were once proud of their country and each other.
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Or Senator Dean Heller who went out to a group of the 200 cowardly militia and called them Patriots, egging them on .
 
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TheNextEra said:
Many Serial Killers think like that.
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I guess. Don't care. If my government cant be bothered to follow the law why should I? The same people who claim I should follow the law hardly ever do so themselves. Why should I limit myself when those who would take from me don't limit themselves. Civility is a mask of convenience, unnecessary when civility becomes inconvenient. Its polite fiction.
 
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NIMBY said:
Or Senator Dean Heller who went out to a group of the 200 cowardly militia and called them Patriots, egging them on .
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Yes, of course. It's the other sides fault.
 
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PirateMk1 said:
I guess. Don't care. If my government cant be bothered to follow the law why should I? The same people who claim I should follow the law hardly ever do so themselves. Why should I limit myself when those who would take from me don't limit themselves. Civility is a mask of convenience, unnecessary when civility becomes inconvenient. Its polite fiction.
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Oh you little anarchist you. :roll: Have heard enough now from you to know you shouldn't be taken seriously. Nuff said.
 
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iliveonramen said:
You could obviously understand what I wrote. I apologize for not sufficiently proofreading before submitting my argument to some asshole over the internet.

It doesn't matter if Bundy likes or dislike the law. It's the law.

As far as using slavery as a "great example", the ending of Jim Crow is also another example where people used violence and intimidation to fight against federal laws they didn't like. So sometimes in retrospect we can judge the cause it never excuses the actual use or threatened use of force.
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mac said:
no, actually, what you wrote didn't make much sense....not even in asshole.



this is one of the dumbest, and laziest, excuses ever.



Bad law is bad law no matter what it's about.
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Moderator's Warning:
Ok you two, and everyone else in thread, this level of baiting and personal comments stops now.

The topic is: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

While that is a very heated topic, civility must be observed if y'all want to continue to participate in the thread. Stick to commenting on the topic, not each other.
 
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TheNextEra said:
You'll have to show me you know how to read and point to where I said that son.
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It's right there in your post, Lenny.
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

Back to the OP.

How can anyone think it's helping the country when the Senate Majority Leader uses this kind of language? This is the same man who labels private citizens "unAmerican". It is unacceptable.
 
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