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Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’[W:254:298:850,989]

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TheNextEra said:
So you think it sets a good precedence that as long as a group is heavily armed, they should get away with what ever they want to and the feds should just back down. THAT'S the precedence YOU want to set by having the feds back down.
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If the feds are there to enforce an unlawful order. Yes.
 
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Henrin said:
I love for you to prove I ever said that.
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My pleasure:

Henrin said:
How is possessing child porn harming someone? Again, I understand how making child porn harms children, but possessing it doesn't harm anyone. Why is possession illegal?
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http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...re-than-26-years-prison-5.html#post1062335390

Henrin said:
I understand arresting people for making child porn, but why do we arrest people for having child porn? If they didn't make it then exactly who did they harm? The rest of it is just stupid. He might harm someone in the future, so lets throw him prison before he does anything. How is that justice?
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http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...re-than-26-years-prison-5.html#post1062335320
 
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TheNextEra said:
Many Serial Killers think like that.
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A lot of soldiers do too. In fact, they're trained to think that way.
 
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Henrin said:
Notice how those are questions? It called an inquiry and questioning the reasons people have for a position they hold.
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No, those were statements such as in bold

...Again, I understand how making child porn harms children, but possessing it doesn't harm anyone.
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Notice the bold? Again, your OWN comments betray you.

Maybe next time you won't make stupid comments.
 
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SingleCellOrganism said:
How dare any American citizen not respect the Federal Government.

The Feds are literally the only hope we have in this world; what alternative is there?

Empire is always good, and never bad, similarly with taxes.

How dare anyone not respect tax law.

Don't they realize their taxes are required to fund the empire? How would we enforce American rule in the world without our tax base?

So yes, this man is a domestic terrorist masquerading as a freedom fighter against the Federal Government.

IMO we should just bring back the Roman empire, and give glory back to where it belongs .... 'free people' are a nuisance who dare to evict themselves from funding the governmental system.
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If only there was some way citizens could try to change laws other than through the use of force...
 
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TheNextEra said:
No, those were statements such as in bold



Notice the bold? Again, your OWN comments betray you.

Maybe next time you won't make stupid comments.
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How does that betray me again?
 
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TheNextEra said:
Many Serial Killers think like that.
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Now they are serial killers? Seems those who are willing to (and have been providing for you) fight for freedom are our enemies. Sad day.
 
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bubbabgone said:
I read the link and saw that the activity at the Bundy ranch didn't satisfy the entire set of requirements to be domestic terrorism you linked to.
And you don't see it either.

Besides ... since when are Democrats (Holder et al) all gung-ho for enforcing laws? What makes this one any different?
There was no threat of domestic terrorism on Bundy's Ranch by anybody's reading of the definition before the Government decided for whatever reason that they wanted the grazing land for some other purpose.
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When a militia group shows up armed to their calling, federal people perceive that as a threat.
(intimidation)

I can't make it any plainer than that.

I hope you understand that. I do. I'm not so sure of your reference to democrats or Holder. As far as I know, federal agencies send people into the field without political bias, they have but one thing on their minds in the field, enforcement of law.

"Domestic terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics:

Involve acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;



(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion;
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http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/terrorism/terrorism-definition
 
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Henrin said:
How does that betray me again?
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Because you believe it should be legal to possess it and your comments of "it doesn't harm anyone" which it does (the child) shows your support.

Spin all you like, it's there for all to see that you support it being legal. What a sick set of comments you had there. I definitely wouldn't trust any children around you.
 
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iliveonramen said:
If only there was some way citizens could try to change laws other than through the use of force...
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That only works when you're offering the government something in return. When you are asking them to give up authority, but you not giving them any authority in return there is no chance they will do anything willingly.
 
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iliveonramen said:
If only there was some way citizens could try to change laws other than through the use of force...
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Yeah, there is, but you know, the people we elect always seem to get in the way...
 
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Henrin said:
That only works when you offering the government something in return. When you are asking them to give up authority, but you not giving them any authority in return there is no chance will do anything willingly.
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You make it sound like the government in this country is anything other than regular citizens and elected officials. It's not a separate class of individuals. Public workers don't make a dime off that federal land. They just do their job and follow the law dictated by Congress. If conservatives are so worried about grazing rights get your conservative house to pass something changing how it's done.
 
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Zyphlin said:
....he'd be hailed as a hero by some on the left and being attacked by those on the right wing.

Yes, the sad thing is both sides can by hypocrites on this.
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Very true.

Heck, had he been an Occupier with a debt that he did not want to pay, MSNBC would drop the 'shock, horrror and outrage" lines and give either him, or one of his mouth pieces a guest appereance on a show.
 
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iliveonramen said:
If only there was some way citizens could try to change laws other than through the use of force...
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There is, but I get bashed every time I call for voting.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Now they are serial killers? Seems those who are willing to (and have been providing for you) fight for freedom are our enemies. Sad day.
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Now, they are fighting for the ir OWN selfish desires, not MY freedom. Next you'll be telling me those that fight for child pornography possession to be legal are also fighting for my freedom. Sad day indeed you side with lawbreakers.
 
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ChezC3 said:
Yeah, there is, but you know, the people we elect always seem to get in the way...
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I'm not going to defend elected officials but their main goal is to get re-elected. It seems as if people are pretty worked up over this issue....

I don't think anyone pointing a gun at public workers is heroic though.
 
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TheNextEra said:
Now, they are fighting for the ir OWN selfish desires, not MY freedom. Next you'll be telling me those that fight for child pornography possession to be legal are also fighting for my freedom. Sad day indeed you side with lawbreakers.
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Hyperbole, no one is trying to fight for child porn. Only a rancher that has been made a target.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Hyperbole, no one is trying to fight for child porn. Only a rancher that has been made a target.
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And that rancher isn't fighting for MY freedom, he's fighting for HIS selfish desires cause he didn't want to pay money. Sad day you side with lawbreakers.
 
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TheNextEra said:
Because you believe it should be legal to possess it and your comments of "it doesn't harm anyone" which it does (the child) shows your support.

Spin all you like, it's there for all to see that you support it being legal. What a sick set of comments you had there. I definitely wouldn't trust any children around you.
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There is no need for me to spin anything here. What I said is that it doesn't harm anyone, which is a statement of fact as possessing it doesn't act on the person or property of anyone. Hell, we aren't even talking about doing anything towards it, but simply having it. That is like saying someone owning a cigarette is actively giving someone cancer.
 
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Henrin said:
There is no need for me to spin anything here. What I said is that it doesn't harm anyone, which is a statement of fact as possessing it doesn't act on the person or property of anyone.
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Possession harms the child. Sad you don't realize that, which makes my comments 100% CORRECT. Next time before making stupid comments why don't you talk to some victims of child molestation and ask them if possession that video of the crime harms them or not. They will say YES.
 
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iliveonramen said:
I'm not going to defend elected officials but their main goal is to get re-elected. It seems as if people are pretty worked up over this issue....

I don't think anyone pointing a gun at public workers is heroic though.
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No one pointed their gun at a public official, the reverse was the case though, along with the dogs being sicked on pregnant women, old ladies being thrown to the ground, and unarmed non resisting men being tased for no apparently good reason....
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

TheNextEra said:
And that rancher isn't fighting for MY freedom, he's fighting for HIS selfish desires cause he didn't want to pay money. Sad day you side with lawbreakers.
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True, you are willing to walk away from your freedoms without a wimper.
 
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Henrin said:
I wonder who those people harmed in any sort of way? Oh right, they didn't act on anyone. It's kind of funny watching those with guns being scared of guns. lol.



I guess when a organization of force gets meet with force they get all scared and stuff and have to act even more aggressively. lol. No hypocrisy in that at all.
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Do you have a point?
 
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CRUE CAB said:
True, you are willing to walk away from your freedoms without a wimper.
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No freedoms were lost, he broke the law. Sad day that you side with lawbreakers. You have NO credibility when speaking of the law. You're dismissed.
 
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