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Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’[W:254:298:850,989]

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U.S. Sen. Harry Reid on Thursday called supporters of Bunkerville rancher Cliven Bundy “domestic terrorists” because they defended him against a Bureau of Land Management cattle roundup with guns and put their children in harm’s way.

Reid calls Bundy supporters

This, a sitting Senator calls the American people exercising their right to protest.

He's really a filthy piece of crap...
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

He's not wrong. A bunch of armed vigilantes obstructing justice.
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

Reid calls Bundy supporters

This, a sitting Senator calls the American people exercising their right to protest.

He's really a filthy piece of crap...

Really? Setting up sniper positions and saying that they will line up behind the women and shoot at the feds.

That is beyond crap, that is cowards and fruitcakes wanting to start a war and kill innocent people.

Get some new heroes...
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

Really? Setting up sniper positions and saying that they will line up behind the women and shoot at the feds.

That is beyond crap, that is cowards and fruitcakes wanting to start a war and kill innocent people.

Get some new heroes...



Bull****. The Feds are the ones who shoot (and burn) innocent women and children. See Ruby Ridge and Waco.
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

Really? Setting up sniper positions and saying that they will line up behind the women and shoot at the feds.

That is beyond crap, that is cowards and fruitcakes wanting to start a war and kill innocent people.

Get some new heroes...

You got it twisted son. The cowards were the one's sicking dogs on pregnant women...

Get real.
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

The way the government has been labeling people and groups in the U.S. since 9/11 as terrorists will sooner than later ensnare everyone. Probably a reason why telecommunications are so heavily monitored and scrutinized - everyone is a potential terrorist in the eyes of the government.
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

Really? Setting up sniper positions and saying that they will line up behind the women and shoot at the feds.

That is beyond crap, that is cowards and fruitcakes wanting to start a war and kill innocent people.

Get some new heroes...

That's what those who think as you do would have been saying about American revolutionaries too. If it hadn't been for people who had the guts to say no to those in power, we'd still be paying the royals, rather than eating up the tabloid crap about them.

Nobody WANTS to start a war, but if you aren't willing to fight when you believe your rights are being trampled on, then you are not only a coward, but you just keep giving up more until there's nothing left to fight for.
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

He's not wrong. A bunch of armed vigilantes obstructing justice.

Yeah, King George said the same thing...:lamo
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

He's not wrong. A bunch of armed vigilantes obstructing justice.

Right on. I wonder what the reaction from the far right would be if hundreds of armed African americans went to stop some store from being evicted in a black neighborhood and took up sniper positions to prevent the eviction of the owner?

Okay - I really do not wonder very long as its fairly obvious what posts we would read here condemning them for being "thugs" and "gang bangers" and all other manner of negative characterization.
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

Bull****. The Feds are the ones who shoot (and burn) innocent women and children. See Ruby Ridge and Waco.

That rancher had a whole different set of circumstances than Waco or Ruby Ridge.

For starters, WACO did not involve the following:

-A guy who who chose to purchase something and then refused to pay for it - for years
- A guy who claimed that he owned public land because of his "ancestory"
-A guy who was violating the law on a large scale (Bundy did not have say, 20 subsistance cows. Instead he had a commercial business involving hundreds of cows)

Right on. I wonder what the reaction from the far right would be if hundreds of armed African americans went to stop some store from being evicted in a black neighborhood and took up sniper positions to prevent the eviction of the owner?
Or maybe leftist Occupiers refusing to pay their college loans?

But wait, only right wing anarchists are cool. In addition, white* right wing anarchists are not only cool, but sexy. Those same right wingers would advocate drone strikes on blacks and the Occupiers attempting the same stunt.

* And yes sadly, the guys race did matter. Many of the militiamen were very quick to point out that the govenment purportedly ignores illegal aliens, but then goes enforcement crazy on the rancher.
 
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Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

That rancher had a whole different set of circumstances than Waco or Ruby Ridge.

For starters, WACO did not involve the following:

-A guy who who chose to purchase something and then refused to pay for it - for years
- A guy who claimed that he owned public land because of his "ancestory"
-A guy who was violating the law on a large scale (Bundy did not have say, 20 subsistance cows. Instead he had a commercial business involving hundreds of cows)



Bundy's family had grazed cattle there for three generations (theory of mixing one's labor with the land = ownership). They'd never paid the Fedgov for it. They DID pay the State of Nevada.

This involves a land-grab from a couple decades ago where Fed control of public land was dramatically expanded... it has long been a sore point among many.

Ok so he isn't poor... only poor people deserve compassion when the government sends in puppy-stomping jackboot thugs?
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

That rancher had a whole different set of circumstances than Waco or Ruby Ridge.

For starters, WACO did not involve the following:

-A guy who who chose to purchase something and then refused to pay for it - for years
- A guy who claimed that he owned public land because of his "ancestory"
-A guy who was violating the law on a large scale (Bundy did not have say, 20 subsistance cows. Instead he had a commercial business involving hundreds of cows)


Or maybe leftist Occupiers refusing to pay their college loans?

But wait, only right wing anarchists are cool. In addition, white* right wing anarchists are not only cool, but sexy. Those same right wingers would advocate drone strikes on blacks and the Occupiers attempting the same stunt.

* And yes sadly, the guys race did matter. Many of the militiamen were very quick to point out that the govenment purportedly ignores illegal aliens, but then goes enforcement crazy on the rancher.

Actually no it doesn't, why? Because race doesn't matter as it concerns an illegal alien, him being an ILLEGAL alien is the issue.
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

Bundy's family had grazed cattle there for three generations (theory of mixing one's labor with the land = ownership).

My family has hunted, fished and trapped in and around certain state forests for three generations. My ancestory does not give me the right to set up a commercial logging business and refuse to pay for a permit. The fact that I offered to pay, say the county sherrif does not matter.

Bundy and the Occupiers have alot in common. The Occupiers, however, have not taken up arms- at least not yet. If it works for Bundy, it should work for them as well.

This involves a land-grab from a couple decades ago where Fed control of public land was dramatically expanded... it has long been a sore point among many.
Yes. And had Bundy paid the permit fee, I would respect him. I am not a big fan endangered species laws and Bundy's privelages (not rights) to use the area should be respected. He needs to pay the fees though.

In the end, Bundy is just an Occupier with short hair.
 
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Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

That's what those who think as you do would have been saying about American revolutionaries too. If it hadn't been for people who had the guts to say no to those in power, we'd still be paying the royals, rather than eating up the tabloid crap about them.

Nobody WANTS to start a war, but if you aren't willing to fight when you believe your rights are being trampled on, then you are not only a coward, but you just keep giving up more until there's nothing left to fight for.

Baloney. Stop the chest beating hyperbole. This is nowhere near anything comparable to the revolutionary war. Put your bullet back in your pocket, the kooks are not going to snipe at Federal agents without overwhelming force counterattacking and turning them into daisy propellant.
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

You got it twisted son. The cowards were the one's sicking dogs on pregnant women...

Get real.

Cowards are people who don't pay their bills and keep stealing, like Bundy. Cowards hide behind women and threaten to shoot.
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

Bundy's family had grazed cattle there for three generations (theory of mixing one's labor with the land = ownership). They'd never paid the Fedgov for it. They DID pay the State of Nevada.

This involves a land-grab from a couple decades ago where Fed control of public land was dramatically expanded... it has long been a sore point among many.

Ok so he isn't poor... only poor people deserve compassion when the government sends in puppy-stomping jackboot thugs?

So what? He DID owe the Feds.

I can't buy a Toyota and then say that I am going to pay Nissan for it.

How is 20 years of court battles (all lost by Bundy) and then finally going in to garnish Bundy of what he owes "jackboot thugs?"

Put some lotion on that itchy trigger finger.
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

Bull****. The Feds are the ones who shoot (and burn) innocent women and children. See Ruby Ridge and Waco.

And Koresh was another coward hiding behind women and children.

Everyone wants the rule of law, until their hypocrisy gets in the way.
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

He's not wrong. A bunch of armed vigilantes obstructing justice.

If that were true, they'd be arrested. Obviously you're wrong and don't know WTF you're talking about.
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

And Koresh was another coward hiding behind women and children.

Everyone wants the rule of law, until their hypocrisy gets in the way.

Remind me what law Koresh was violating?
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

I'm beginning to think that Harry Reid suffers from Tourettes. He's been blurting out the damndest nonsense lately. Someone needs to retire him before he starts foaming at the mouth.
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

And didn't Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano say in 2009 that we were no longer going to use the term "terrorism" and instead refer to such events as "man-caused disasters"? The phrase "terrorist" represented the...what was it Secretary Napolitano said again..oh I know - "the politics of fear".

Maybe Harry was busy that day and missed that command. Or maybe he's back to playing the politics of fear.
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

Reid calls Bundy supporters

This, a sitting Senator calls the American people exercising their right to protest.

He's really a filthy piece of crap...

Reid said that, eh? Funny. I consider the federal government to be a bunch of domestic terrorists.
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

Reid calls Bundy supporters

This, a sitting Senator calls the American people exercising their right to protest.

He's really a filthy piece of crap...
Reid is right. These terrorists are using threats of violence to get what they want after the judicial system didn't go their way. 2nd amendment solutions to civil discourse is not the answer.
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

Cowards are people who don't pay their bills and keep stealing, like Bundy. Cowards hide behind women and threaten to shoot.

Like liberals you mean?
 
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