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Casual marijuana use linked with brain abnormalities, study finds

That's a pretty sweeping indictment. Got any evidence for it?

At the societal level, the by FAR largest destructive force related to MJ is the War on Drugs that has wasted $10s or $100s of billions, and ruined millions of lives, while enriching a few drug lords, in a futile battle to curtail usage that will never succeed because intelligent, responsible people have used it safely, without ill effects for generations now and so completely disregard the kind of fear mongering stated above.

Uhm, the OP ???

Did you read it ?
 
This thread sadly confirms my belief that this nation is overwhelmingly in a doctor-prescribed or self-induced trance.
 
I have Chrohn's disease. Cannabis has been proven to alleviate the pain from this disease. And it is far more effective than the dangerous steroid drugs that Doctors are quick to put you on. I have a milder case than others so I rarely consume cannabis, however it does work.

No person would deny anyone a medical need for someone genuinely in need. But the "medicinal" aspect of this is comical. You know 99.9999 percent of those buyers just wanted to get high.
 
No person would deny anyone a medical need for someone genuinely in need. But the "medicinal" aspect of this is comical. You know 99.9999 percent of those buyers just wanted to get high.

Where do you get that info? Most people who use medicinal marijuana have a documented medical need to use it.
 
Where do you get that info? Most people who use medicinal marijuana have a documented medical need to use it.

You know how hard it is to a get a "prescription" for oxycontin in Florida? About as hard as it was to get one for marijuana in San Francisco.
 
No person would deny anyone a medical need for someone genuinely in need. But the "medicinal" aspect of this is comical. You know 99.9999 percent of those buyers just wanted to get high.

Yeah, do you have evidence of those numbers? Regardless, why is it of anyone's concern? It's not my business if someone want's to get ripped on Jack or high on Maui Wowie. It alleviates many debilitating illnesses, so let those people use it for those reasons. Others want to get high, so let those people smoke up. It's all much ado about nothing. Personally I don't like to smoke it. I prefer to make tea out of it and put it on pizza and in baked goods.
 
Yeah, do you have evidence of those numbers? Regardless, why is it of anyone's concern? It's not my business if someone want's to get ripped on Jack or high on Maui Wowie. It alleviates many debilitating illnesses, so let those people use it for those reasons. Others want to get high, so let those people smoke up. It's much ado about nothing. Personally I don't like to smoke it. I prefer to make tea out of it and put it on pizza and in baked goods.

Not questioning you. Just pointing out the wild abuse of the system.
 
Not questioning you. Just pointing out the wild abuse of the system.
Wild abuse? Oh, those masses of people faking Chron's disease and cancer like a huckster faking a back injury, right, got it, carry on then...
 
Wild abuse? Oh, those masses of people faking Chron's disease and cancer like a huckster faking a back injury, right, got it, carry on then...

Henry, again, I'm not questioning you or anyone with legitimate conditions. I'm just saying a LOT of perfectly fine folks are suddenly in need of "pain medication". It's just not hard to get in many places.
 
Henry, again, I'm not questioning you or anyone with legitimate conditions. I'm just saying a LOT of perfectly fine folks are suddenly in need of "pain medication". It's just not hard to get in many places.
That reminds me of people faking illness during prohibition in order to have Doctors prescribe em' "medicinal alcohol" So what? Legalize it and let people use it for whatever reason they want or need.
 
Henry, again, I'm not questioning you or anyone with legitimate conditions. I'm just saying a LOT of perfectly fine folks are suddenly in need of "pain medication". It's just not hard to get in many places.

Who cares? It should be entirely legal to anyone who wants it. Why not let people smoke it to get high if they want? We let people drink to get drunk if they want.
 
Uhm, the OP ???

Did you read it ?

Yes, can you point me to the evidence presented that it's 'highly destructive at the personal and societal level?' They studied a small sample of college age students - how did they project those findings to career trajectory/family status/arrest rates/death rates/wealth/long term health, etc. of pot smokers versus casual or heavy drinkers or those who stayed home on Friday nights and studied? And where did they quantify or estimate ANY cost to society overall?
 
That reminds me of people faking illness during prohibition in order to have Doctors prescribe em' "medicinal alcohol" So what? Legalize it and let people use it for whatever reason they want or need.

That's exactly right. There is a massive death toll from alcohol abuse every year, but we don't really care about that. There is just no way I've seen to compare the two and with a straight face argue for keeping alcohol legal, elevate a major drug dealer like McCain to POTUS candidate, but locking people up in jail for smoking or selling pot.
 
Who cares? It should be entirely legal to
anyone who wants it. Why not let people smoke it to get high if they want? We let people drink to get drunk if they want.

NO, it shouldn't be legalized.

My right to raise my Family in a Society not inundated with stoners is just as legitimate as some stoners wish go scramble their brains.

The distructive effects of drug use aren't isolated to just the user.

Can you understand that ?

Look I know addicts are VERY selfish individuals, and its nearly impossible for them to see any further than their immediate fix, but all the more reason not to placate to the losers of our society and poison the rest in the process
 
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NO, it shouldn't be legalized.

My right to raise my Family in a Society not inundated with stoners is just as legitimate as some stoners wish go scramble their brains.

The distructive effects of drug use aren't isolated to just the user.

Can you understand that ?

Look I know addicts are VERY selfish individuals, and its nearly impossible for them to see any further than their immediate fix, but all the more reason not to placate to the losers of our society and poison the rest in the process

YES, it should absolutely be legalized. You already raise your family in a society inundated with stoners AND drunks, and drunks are much worse. The only difference if it is legal we won't waste tax dollars persecuting people for possessing and smoking a plant that is much less dangerous than hundreds of already legal substances. To argue for keeping it illegal is truly ignorant, and quite frankly idiotic.

Can you understand that?
 
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NO, it shouldn't be legalized.

My right to raise my Family in a Society not inundated with stoners is just as legitimate as some stoners wish go scramble their brains.

The distructive effects of drug use aren't isolated to just the user.

Can you understand that ?

Look I know addicts are VERY selfish individuals, and its nearly impossible for them to see any further than their immediate fix, but all the more reason not to placate to the losers of our society and poison the rest in the process

That is an odd point of view. Do you also argue for prohibition of alcohol?

Legal or illegal, marijuana has been generally easy for people to obtain yet it is certainly not the case that everyone enjoys weed or that legalization opens the door to a "society innundated with stoners". Most people use it seldom, if ever.
It will always be-and should be- a controlled substance for under age kids.

The comical thing about marijuana studies is how hard the gov't has tried to fund studies that demonstrate serious health consequences among adults users. For decades they have come up empty handed.
 
NO, it shouldn't be legalized.

My right to raise my Family in a Society not inundated with stoners is just as legitimate as some stoners wish go scramble their brains.

The distructive effects of drug use aren't isolated to just the user.

Can you understand that ?

Look I know addicts are VERY selfish individuals, and its nearly impossible for them to see any further than their immediate fix, but all the more reason not to placate to the losers of our society and poison the rest in the process

So we're getting rid of alcohol too then, yes? You should be on a crusade about that if you think that somehow the rest of the society is responsible for raising your child as well.
 
Henry, again, I'm not questioning you or anyone with legitimate conditions. I'm just saying a LOT of perfectly fine folks are suddenly in need of "pain medication". It's just not hard to get in many places.

Who cares, it's not your business.
 
I'm measuring your "presonal testimony" against the study in the OP, not Erod.

And as a social worker for 10 years I likely have enough "personal testimony" to lap you and Erod many times over.

A social worker probably would. But then again, you would have skewed data, as I have also, since you're only in contact with a certain sector of society. The study in the OP was actually inconclusive because of small data size.
 
A social worker probably would. But then again, you would have skewed data, as I have also, since you're only in contact with a certain sector of society. The study in the OP was actually inconclusive because of small data size.

Yes a social workers view will be very very skewed. They meet people who have much bigger problems than occasionally smoking pot.
 
YES, it should absolutely be legalized. You already raise your family in a society inundated with stoners AND drunks, and drunks are much worse. The only difference if it is legal we won't waste tax dollars persecuting people for possessing and smoking a plant that is much less dangerous than hundreds of already legal substances. To argue for keeping it illegal is truly ignorant, and quite frankly idiotic.

Can you understand that?

No, no I dont.

I dont live in a homeless shelter or on Skid Row and where in the hell do you live if your surrounded by drunks ?

The City I live in will send a stoner's ass to jail in a heartbeat.

Marijuana is NOT legal here and never will be.
 
Casual marijuana use linked with brain abnormalities, study finds | Fox News



Duh.

I laugh every time I hear from pot smokers that marijuana use is completely harmless compared to alcohol. No one can possibly believe marijuana is the least bit harmless.

I had a buddy in high school that was probably the brightest guy in our class, and he was extremely outgoing. He found pot, and within a year, he had no gleam in his eye. He became this blank, empty loner of a guy that I could hardly recognize.

It eats your brain, folks. Legal or not, it destroys who you are.

On a selfish note, it culls the herd for my kids, whom I'm confident find potheads to be as pathetic as I do.

My goodness, you are such a tolerant individual. It's an honor to be in your cyber presence.
 
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