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A Child?
Yes, 15 is a child. 18 is an adult.
A Child?
Yes, 15 is a child. 18 is an adult.
So you intentionally attempted to de-rail a thread about a horrific tragedy to score political points?As I said earlier, when they stop then I will. :shrug: Indeed the ONLY reason that I did this time was due to the left doing it every single time a mass shooting happened.
I do know that 20 people who are still alive is not as tragic as 20 children who were murdered. The fact you claim you are emotionally the same with children alive or dead makes me wonder just how deep the gun worship goes.You have no clue as to whethery the are better of dead or alive.
And I do.Sure you can.
I find it far more selfish for people to exploit a tragedy just to score points against their political opponents.Yeah, might be better for those that the trauma didn't happen to. But for the victims it can be worse. And the thinking absolutely that they are better off alive by those that were not the victim is just selfish.
At least that's something.Don't get me wrong, i'm glad as hell that there are survivors.
But at least it's the choice of those children. The 20 murdered children never got to make that choice.I hope to god that they can eventually forget what happened and live full and productive lives. But I'm also a realist. I doubt very seriously that these kids will ever get over what happened here. And I'd be surprised as hell if some suicides did not happen due to it.
We've had several pipe bomb threats at the schools in this area this year. Some were even found. I've no doubt that something along the lines of pipe bombs being used will happen with in the next 1-2 years.
We had one kid busted for issuing a threat with a fake pipe bomb, still a felony but that's been it, luckily it's mainly been kids just being idiots and not the much worse alternative.We've had several pipe bomb threats at the schools in this area this year. Some were even found. I've no doubt that something along the lines of pipe bombs being used will happen with in the next 1-2 years.
We've had several pipe bomb threats at the schools in this area this year. Some were even found. I've no doubt that something along the lines of pipe bombs being used will happen with in the next 1-2 years.
Life is always better than death.
Did you not even read post# 4 of the link I provided? You say I lied in post 15 of this thread in that I waited just as long as anti-gun advocates did before I started in with my sarcasm. I just showed you a link where anti-gun advocates did indeed start in on their own agenda in post# 4 of the link I provided. Where did I lie? Oh wait, I didn't. You have been shown that I did not lie in my post #15. Are you going to admit that you are wrong or continue with your accusations?
If that were true then the phrase "assisted suicide" would not exist and it would not be debated as to whether to allow it or not.
16 year old stabbing kids.....damn it we need tougher knife control laws. How was this kid able to purchase such deadly weapons? Was a background check done? Why not? who sold the kid these knives, we need to sue the knife manufacturer for making a device that kills children, innocent children.
We need to call for a complete ban on knives...knives are killing and wounding our children...think of the children. If you dont support banning knives then you support children dying.
Did I cover all the usual Liberal talking points? Sorry if I missed any of them.
So you intentionally attempted to de-rail a thread about a horrific tragedy to score political points?
I'll just never understand those who care more about the gun than they do human lives. And that's the closest I intend to come to discussing gun control.
People can debate anything and can phrase anything. Thats a pretty weak argument.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-26959628
Sounds like something you would see on that TV show the following. No confirmed deaths as of yet and lets hope it stays that way.
Ironically my daughter and I were just talking the other night about the potential of some copycat moron parroting The Following or Criminal Minds.
Nuts.
We need to get all these knives off the streets. Knife control now!!
Come to think of it, it wouldn't hurt getting the spoons and forks off the streets too. :mrgreen:
We need to get all these knives off the streets. Knife control now!!
Come to think of it, it wouldn't hurt getting the spoons and forks off the streets too. :mrgreen:
As I said earlier, when they stop then I will. :shrug: Indeed the ONLY reason that I did this time was due to the left doing it every single time a mass shooting happened.
Apparently you missed the point. The very fact that there are people that want assistance in committing suicide is evidence that life is not always better than death. The very fact that people commit suicide is evidence that not everyone believes that life is preferable to death.
IE just because you think that life is always preferable does not make it absolutely true.
That has been my theory since the 90s. There weren't a whole lot of high profile mass murders until about them, or at least they weren't widely reported, then Pearl Mississippi, Columbine, and a few others I can't remember at the moment started to pop up. Then another lull, a few here and there but nothing like the previous decade, and the last couple of years another spike. I think reporting on these issues(sad, but ultimately local issues) in the national media does have a bit of a copycat effect, notoriety is better than nothing to some people with severe mental deficits, I have read a theory that a lot of the people who do this have severe issues with narcissism along with sociopathic tendencies.
My first thought because it was urban was a potential gang hit.
Yeah, there are at least three major reasons this could have happened from psychological, to gang activity, to a rage incident and I'm sure it will come out in the next few months.Could be, but usually gang hits are hit and run, targeting specific individuals. This appeared to be more of a mass attack motivated by rage.
Cool...you continue to demonstrate a similar mentality to a 3rd grader at recess going "I know you are but what am I" and I'll continue to show indignation towards people who from moment one of a tragedy attempt to manipulate and exploit the harm and death of children for the sake of their pathetic devotion to a political agenda regardless of their side. Whatever excuse you wish to tell yourself to convince yourself, wrongly, that you're any different than those on "the left" doing it "every single time a mass shooting happened" is up to you. And if you want to delude yourself into believing that makes you different, more power to you. If you want to think anyone else is buying your excuse as anything OTHER than an excuse, then you're going to need to create another lie in your head for you to believe.
These events are horrible, and there's absolutely discussions to be had on a multitude of issues in their wake...AND there's even plenty to talk about regarding thet REACTIONS people have to these horrible events in their wake as well. However, the pathetic slobbering need demonstrated by some on both the left and the right to attempt to strike when the emotional iron is hot and when people are at their lowest point of logical thinking due to that emotion is just disgusting in my mind. Not only is it disgusting, but it removes any legitimate ability to have reasonable, adult, logical conversations about the issues that may relate to this because before you get to a point where such is possible you already have both sides acting like monkey's in a zoo flinging poop at each other. Why? Becuase both sides have folks who can't contain the excitement of seeing some kids die so they can take up the battle flag for their particular side in this war and rush off to sling their sarcastic quips and stereotypes talking points.
The reality is, in many of these threads, sadly it's a coin flip as to which side is going to explode in macabre glee over the fact that they get to push their agenda. Neither side holds the higher ground on this, which is just a microcosm for the sickness that permeates our culture these days. I feel for these kids, as I did for many of the past victims of these mass forms of violence. Not only for the attrocity perpetrated against them today, but for the raping of their tragedy that people like you and others do in the name of your no-holds-barred devotion to a political agenda.