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Mass stabbing at US school.

It is a bit disgusting to watch the Gun-H0 crowd use a tragedy like this to push an agenda....almost sickening.

Yeah, that didn't happen two Decembers ago. Not only did anti-gun jump out immediately, they criticized NRA for staying quiet. Maybe it's why some pro-gun are out mocking anti-gun's hypocrisy.:shrug:
 
One thing I find interesting is the fact that form what I have read Canada is more liberal on things like knifes and other weapons than most of the U.S., batons and nightsticks are legal here as long as they are open carried, I believe the same goes for bladed weapons longer than 5".
It's about perception in the U.S. more than practical application. Brass knuckles are considered gangster weapons, as well, knives are thought to be used more in offensive attacks than defense, I don't know where the perception is on batons but it always has something to do with a crime committed somewhere and who did it rather than what was used.
 
I fully understand all the sarcasm above but can't we wait just a bit before this turns into the inevitable slugfest over guns?

And if it was a gun involved, just how much time (number of posts) until the anti-gun crowd would be at it? My guess would be 2 posts.
 
It is a wise choice for some to shelter but as a general policy, my opinion is it's bad idea. First responders should be some one already in the immediate area not SWAT who has to mobilize first.
Yeah. I don't blame someone for sheltering if there is no one in the line of attack or if there is literally nothing they can do, like trying to run down a ranged weapon, but in the case of a knife murder................step back and weaponize something, a person attacking with a knife is committed to violence without a doubt.
 
Where's the lies?

post # 15 in this thread.

Nobody who believes in gun control had seized upon this tragedy to push an agenda.

You are simply lying about it and continue to lie instead of displaying even the tiniest degree of class.
 
You made this comment first...

Uh oh! Mass Stabbings! Better make reasonable laws on restricting kid's access to knives! I'd suggest requiring safes with biometric locks for all knives larger than 2 inches. Also they should ban all felons (violent or not) from owning any knives.

And then you made this comment:

Prayers going to all families involved.
Well it's good to see you know where your priorities are. First comes pushing a political agenda, then the lives of people.

Partisanship is not just crippling for democracy, it's also crippling for humanity.
 
Yeah, that didn't happen two Decembers ago. Not only did anti-gun jump out immediately, they criticized NRA for staying quiet. Maybe it's why some pro-gun are out mocking anti-gun's hypocrisy.:shrug:

I wasn't posting here at the time of Newtown, although I was a member. I'd be interested in seeing posts from then. I find it hard to believe that there were not many posts on here calling for gun legislation and slamming the NRA, as I saw posts just like that all over the internet.

Was there outrage from the anti-gun people when Bob Costas used the national forum of the halftime of an NFL game and called for gun control 1 day after Jovan Belcher killed his pregnant girlfriend and himself? Did they accuse him of mocking?

Was there outage when Michael Bloomberg called for gun control on the very same day that the Newtown shooting occured?

Was there outrage when the White House was hit by numerous gun control petitions hours after the Newtown shooting?
 
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post # 15 in this thread.

Nobody who believes in gun control had seized upon this tragedy to push an agenda.

You are simply lying about it and continue to lie instead of displaying even the tiniest degree of class.

Cute how you make sure to include the words "this tragedy". While ignoring all the other tragedies in which anti-gun advocates tried to push thier agenda with in the first page. You want to talk about class? Try admitting that anti-gun advocates do the same thing when it comes to mass shootings. But you are right, no anti-gun advocate has tried to take advantage of this situation in order to promote more gun control.

Here's one example in post #4 of this thread
 
Well it's good to see you know where your priorities are. .

Honesty certainly isn't one of them. Mock, then lie about mocking. Push the political agenda, then lie by claiming those pushing an opposite agenda have already done so.

I'veseen less childish behavior in a schoolyard.
 
Cute how you make sure to include the words "this tragedy". While ignoring all the other tragedies in which anti-gun advocates tried to push thier agenda with in the first page. You want to talk about class? Try admitting that anti-gun advocates do the same thing when it comes to mass shootings. But you are right, no anti-gun advocate has tried to take advantage of this situation in order to promote more gun control.

Here's one example in post #4 of this thread

Ah,so it is o.k. for you to mock, then lie about your mockery and lie and then lie about your indulging in the lie because some time in the past, in different situations, other people have done other things.

I suppose when one is looking to try to justify their childish behavior,just about any excuse will do, eh?
 
You made this comment first...

And then you made this comment:

Well it's good to see you know where your priorities are. First comes pushing a political agenda, then the lives of people.

Partisanship is not just crippling for democracy, it's also crippling for humanity.

:shrug: So? Am I partisan when it comes to gun control? HELL YES! I fully admit that. Am proud of it also. How many liberals will admit that?

By the by, this is a debate site. So excuse me for putting forth debate over my personal feelings.
 
Ah,so it is o.k. for you to mock, then lie about your mockery and lie and then lie about your indulging in the lie because some time in the past, in different situations, other people have done other things.

I suppose when one is looking to try to justify their childish behavior,just about any excuse will do, eh?

Did you not even read post# 4 of the link I provided? You say I lied in post 15 of this thread in that I waited just as long as anti-gun advocates did before I started in with my sarcasm. I just showed you a link where anti-gun advocates did indeed start in on their own agenda in post# 4 of the link I provided. Where did I lie? Oh wait, I didn't. You have been shown that I did not lie in my post #15. Are you going to admit that you are wrong or continue with your accusations?
 
Gardener's first post in this thread:

I hope so,too.

I also hope that,if anything, the discussion of it on this thread can focus on the real issue -- that of the consequences when we do not deal properly with mental illness-- rather than being seized upon as an opportunity for zealots to push their narrow political agenda.


Deuce's first post in this thread:

Predictably, the paranoid right jumps in immediately with cracks about knife control when a bunch of kids are badly injured. Stay classy, gun nuts.

Good thing you both got your digs in on the "gun nuts" and "zealots" out of the gate.

But you weren't mocking those people, of course.
 
Honesty certainly isn't one of them. Mock, then lie about mocking.

You still have yet to prove that I mocked what happened in the OP.

Push the political agenda, then lie by claiming those pushing an opposite agenda have already done so.

I'veseen less childish behavior in a schoolyard.

Did you not read the link I provided?
 
And if it was a gun involved, just how much time (number of posts) until the anti-gun crowd would be at it? My guess would be 2 posts.
You know the first thing that came to my mind after reading about this tragedy was not guns versus knives but wondering if this young male was another that had been put on anti-depressant drugs? There's been a disturbing increase of the use of these drugs in youth and young adults. The evidence is becoming overwhelming that there is a link to violent behavior and the use of these drugs especially in teens and young adults. It will be interesting to see if that is the case in days to come. Colombine, Virginia Tech, the Joker..... even the Ft. Hood shooter was on Ambien. Just a thought.
 
Ah,so it is perfectly acceptable for liars to tell lies about what happened because they imagine it COULD have happened.

Got it.

Who lied?
 
A reasonable person should recognise that behaviour as being inappropriate and not lower themselves to the same standards.

"Who's the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?"

―Obi-Wan Kenobi.

You say that, now. If the tables were turned, you'd be singing a different tune.
 
You know the first thing that came to my mind after reading about this tragedy was not guns versus knives but wondering if this young male was another that had been put on anti-depressant drugs? There's been a disturbing increase of the use of these drugs in youth and young adults. The evidence is becoming overwhelming that there is a link to violent behavior and the use of these drugs especially in teens and young adults. It will be interesting to see if that is the case in days to come. Colombine, Virginia Tech, the Joker..... even the Ft. Hood shooter was on Ambien. Just a thought.

Good questions here. I to am wondering if the drugs these kids are being put on might be at the very least partly the cause.
 
You know the first thing that came to my mind after reading about this tragedy was not guns versus knives but wondering if this young male was another that had been put on anti-depressant drugs? There's been a disturbing increase of the use of these drugs in youth and young adults. The evidence is becoming overwhelming that there is a link to violent behavior and the use of these drugs especially in teens and young adults. It will be interesting to see if that is the case in days to come. Colombine, Virginia Tech, the Joker..... even the Ft. Hood shooter was on Ambien. Just a thought.

Very interesting points here, and yes there does seem to be a connection, or at least some commonality.

I know next to nothing about mind altering meds. Can they bring about homicidal thoughts?
 
It is a bit disgusting to watch the Gun-H0 crowd use a tragedy like this to push an agenda....almost sickening.

You say that as if the anti-gunners wouldn't be hoppin' around like a one legged cat trying to bury **** on a frozen pond, had this been a shooting.
 
Uh oh! Mass Stabbings! Better make reasonable laws on restricting kid's access to knives! I'd suggest requiring safes with biometric locks for all knives larger than 2 inches. Also they should ban all felons (violent or not) from owning any knives.

if the socialists, progressives and hand wringing left leaning soccer moms thought most knife owners were conservatives, the there would be such a movement
 
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