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No. I am not kidding. What you are claiming is that you only know how to appeal to ignorance instead of reason.

Theses are the General powers delegated to our federal Congress, Specifically enumerated:

Do you think our Founders envisioned a 17.3 trillion dollar debt and 250 billion a year in debt service that helps no one? Do you think providing for the general welfare means creating dependence on the taxpayers for existence? All Congress has done is give themselves the power to keep their jobs forever due to people being dependent on them for a monthly taxpayer paycheck to live on. You do realize where the money comes from for the govt. programs, don't you?
 
No. I am not kidding. What you are claiming is that you only know how to appeal to ignorance instead of reason.

Theses are the General powers delegated to our federal Congress, Specifically enumerated:


It's hard not to address the ignorance being displayed here...Look, What you are quoting is the opening sentence of the article, the actual powers to do these things, or IOW, the ways that the government can act to "promote the general welfare" are laid out in the rest of the Article....Keep reading for Christ sake.
 
Do you think our Founders envisioned a 17.3 trillion dollar debt and 250 billion a year in debt service that helps no one? Do you think providing for the general welfare means creating dependence on the taxpayers for existence? All Congress has done is give themselves the power to keep their jobs forever due to people being dependent on them for a monthly taxpayer paycheck to live on. You do realize where the money comes from for the govt. programs, don't you?

Our Founding Fathers merely enumerated sufficient Socialism, to pay the debts, and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States, not any Thing and every Thing, as the right would try to have us believe.
 
It's hard not to address the ignorance being displayed here...Look, What you are quoting is the opening sentence of the article, the actual powers to do these things, or IOW, the ways that the government can act to "promote the general welfare" are laid out in the rest of the Article....Keep reading for Christ sake.

There is no Appeal to Ignorance regarding our supreme law of the land.

From Article 1, Section 8:

to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States;

Raising money for the general welfare is a power delegated to our federal Congress.
 
Our Founding Fathers merely enumerated sufficient Socialism, to pay the debts, and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States, not any Thing and every Thing, as the right would try to have us believe.

Paying what debt? You certainly didn't read what J-mac posted nor have you ever read the Constitution. It is going to be a real shock to your system when you grow up and realize what you have been posting here. Hope I am around to see the transformation. There are certain roles of the Federal Govt just like there are certain roles for the state and local governments. You don't seem to understand the roles of any of those governments.
 
Paying what debt? You certainly didn't read what J-mac posted nor have you ever read the Constitution. It is going to be a real shock to your system when you grow up and realize what you have been posting here. Hope I am around to see the transformation. There are certain roles of the Federal Govt just like there are certain roles for the state and local governments. You don't seem to understand the roles of any of those governments.
I think you merely need to acquire and possess a clue and a Cause.
 
I think you merely need to acquire and possess a clue and a Cause.

Thank you so much for the brilliant advice. Let's see if I have this right, our Founders left England, came to this country, formed a govt. that was small in size with a part time legislature, put most of the power at the state and local level so they would be closer to the people and to you that is creating a form of socialism. Sorry young man, but you need the clue, not me.
 
Thank you so much for the brilliant advice. Let's see if I have this right, our Founders left England, came to this country, formed a govt. that was small in size with a part time legislature, put most of the power at the state and local level so they would be closer to the people and to you that is creating a form of socialism. Sorry young man, but you need the clue, not me.

Socialism starts with a social contract.

Our Founding Fathers merely enumerated sufficient Socialism, to pay the debts, and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States, not any Thing and every Thing, as the right would try to have us believe.
 
Socialism starts with a social contract.

Our Founding Fathers merely enumerated sufficient Socialism, to pay the debts, and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States, not any Thing and every Thing, as the right would try to have us believe.

Again, pay what debts? You really have no concept as to what the role of the govt. is in this THE United States. Like all kids you look for the easy way out, if you even took a civics course and a history course you would understand that our Founders got away from an oppressive govt. that controlled the people. They formed a limited govt. and part time legislature so the legislators had to live under the laws they made. That is far from socialism and if you think providing for the common defense is socialism, you have a very distorted view of socialism, probably a term you really don't understand among other things.
 
There is no Appeal to Ignorance regarding our supreme law of the land.

From Article 1, Section 8:



Raising money for the general welfare is a power delegated to our federal Congress.

Ok, let me try a different approach. How do YOU define "general welfare" as to what you read them saying there?
 
Again, pay what debts? You really have no concept as to what the role of the govt. is in this THE United States. Like all kids you look for the easy way out, if you even took a civics course and a history course you would understand that our Founders got away from an oppressive govt. that controlled the people. They formed a limited govt. and part time legislature so the legislators had to live under the laws they made. That is far from socialism and if you think providing for the common defense is socialism, you have a very distorted view of socialism, probably a term you really don't understand among other things.

It should be self-evident that it must be the Debts of the United States. is there a point or are you only resorting to diversion, which is usually considered a fallacy due to a lack of a clue and a Cause.
 
It should be self-evident that it must be the Debts of the United States. is there a point or are you only resorting to diversion, which is usually considered a fallacy due to a lack of a clue and a Cause.


LOL, you have no concept of the revenue collected and the role of the Federal Govt. there is only debt today because of demands made on the central govt by people like you. There is no need for debt based upon the tax structure we have. We have a spending problem not a revenue problem and we have 50 sovereign states that you have no understanding about
 
LOL, you have no concept of the revenue collected and the role of the Federal Govt. there is only debt today because of demands made on the central govt by people like you. There is no need for debt based upon the tax structure we have. We have a spending problem not a revenue problem and we have 50 sovereign states that you have no understanding about

It should be self-evident that it must be the Debts of the United States. You are not refuting this assertion.
 
It should be self-evident that it must be the Debts of the United States. You are not refuting this assertion.

Daniel, focus. I asked you a direct question....What's your answer?
 
It should be self-evident that it must be the Debts of the United States. You are not refuting this assertion.

It is indeed the debts of the United States and is paid for out of tax revenue paid by the taxpayers authorized by the Constitution. You don't seem to understand the term socialism nor do you have any clue as to what general welfare actually means. You were asked that question but haven't answered it.
 
It is indeed the debts of the United States and is paid for out of tax revenue paid by the taxpayers authorized by the Constitution. You don't seem to understand the term socialism nor do you have any clue as to what general welfare actually means. You were asked that question but haven't answered it.

It means the general welfare and not the general badfare nor the general warfare, if we need to start quibbling. Our Founding Fathers wisely enumerated only sufficient socialism for a Welfare-State, not a Warfare-State.
 
It means the general welfare and not the general badfare nor the general warfare, if we need to start quibbling. Our Founding Fathers wisely enumerated only sufficient socialism for a Welfare-State, not a Warfare-State.

Still no definition as you avoid answering a direct question. Define general welfare for us and what the Federal Taxpayers should fund and why?
 
Still no definition as you avoid answering a direct question. Define general welfare for us and what the Federal Taxpayers should fund and why?

It is clear that he won't, or can't do that...Instead all you are going to get is cliche leftist bumper stickers like "Get a clue, and a cause"... or "They funded the general welfare, not warfare".... It's all so stupid, I think he is posting between bong hits in mom's basement.
 
Still no definition as you avoid answering a direct question. Define general welfare for us and what the Federal Taxpayers should fund and why?

Can you define what the common Defense is? Is there any way to foresee any analogies for the general welfare. Our Government is limited by our Constitution. The general power to provide for the general welfare is expressly declared in our social Contract and supreme law of the land.
 
It is clear that he won't, or can't do that...Instead all you are going to get is cliche leftist bumper stickers like "Get a clue, and a cause"... or "They funded the general welfare, not warfare".... It's all so stupid, I think he is posting between bong hits in mom's basement.

Still not a clue or a Cause, huh.
 
Can you define what the common Defense is? Is there any way to foresee any analogies for the general welfare. Our Government is limited by our Constitution. The general power to provide for the general welfare is expressly declared in our social Contract and supreme law of the land.

Yes, I can define the common defense(foreign and domestic) and have many times. When you start responding to actual questions and not with typical cliche leftwing bs answers I will be happy to engage you further. Don't know what grade you are in but you have a lot to learn about our govt, our Founders, our Constitution so get a clue and read more and post less.
 
Still not a clue or a Cause, huh.

A clue? You need to learn what that is first...A cause? I am not a liberal weenie, I don't need a 'cause' to know what is right or wrong....Wait for mom or dad to explain it to you son.
 
Yes, I can define the common defense(foreign and domestic) and have many times. When you start responding to actual questions and not with typical cliche leftwing bs answers I will be happy to engage you further. Don't know what grade you are in but you have a lot to learn about our govt, our Founders, our Constitution so get a clue and read more and post less.

The point is you can't define every Thing that may be necessary for the common defense. In that same manner, any Thing not prohibited by our Constitution may be employed to promote and provide for the general welfare.
 
A clue? You need to learn what that is first...A cause? I am not a liberal weenie, I don't need a 'cause' to know what is right or wrong....Wait for mom or dad to explain it to you son.

Nothing but fallacies for your Cause? Why not get a clue and Cause.
 
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