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Economy adds 192,000 jobs; unemployment rate holds steady at 6.7%

Why is this a political issue in any at-will jurisdiction?

Why is any data important in your world? After all liberals don't like measurement of any kind unless it is positive information that they can use as propaganda. One of these days you may get a job in the private sector and then you will understand why data is important.
 
Why is any data important in your world? After all liberals don't like measurement of any kind unless it is positive information that they can use as propaganda. One of these days you may get a job in the private sector and then you will understand why data is important.

That, specific data, only tells me that the concept of employment at will is more political than legal, in our political-economic reality in nature.
 
Facts are not semantics, no matter how much you want to believe otherwise. Furthermore, that was my stance from the very beginning, so the idea of "being schooled" is absurd, since it was my position from the first.

Yes, you did. You even pointed out how people are not forced to buy insurance, which was the tax.
The fact they are allowed to pay the tax proves they are not forced to have insurance. This is really simply stuff.

I never left the topic.
That's correct, I cannot provide proof of something which did not happen because no one can prove something which never happened and asking someone to prove something which never happened is simply asinine.

So is there a reason you're asking an irrelevant question which no one can answer?

The reason I asked my question should be obvious...to take credit for something when there is NO factual roof that it actually has performed any better then another course of action would have is, IMO, foolish.
Especially when the result is still relatively high unemployment, a stock market utterly addicted to QE/'artificially' low interest rates and still one huge deficit after another.


Anyway, thank you again for answering my question...my interest in this matter with you is finished for now as further discussion would inevitably result in pointless back-and-forth opinions.

Good day.
 
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That, specific data, only tells me that the concept of employment at will is more political than legal, in our political-economic reality in nature.

Right, an average of 950,000 discouraged workers each month is nothing more than a number to you, and certainly not actual people. Data reflects human being and human activity thus measures actual performance.
 
Right, an average of 950,000 discouraged workers each month is nothing more than a number to you, and certainly not actual people. Data reflects human being and human activity thus measures actual performance.

Yes, it is merely politics as usual. We should be actually solving simple poverty instead of just playing at politics as usual.
 
Facts are not semantics, no matter how much you want to believe otherwise. Furthermore, that was my stance from the very beginning, so the idea of "being schooled" is absurd, since it was my position from the first.

Yes, you did. You even pointed out how people are not forced to buy insurance, which was the tax.
The fact they are allowed to pay the tax proves they are not forced to have insurance. This is really simply stuff.

I never left the topic.
That's correct, I cannot provide proof of something which did not happen because no one can prove something which never happened and asking someone to prove something which never happened is simply asinine.

So is there a reason you're asking an irrelevant question which no one can answer?

again DA is asking for you to back up your biased sourcing for an unbiased source.. but all you do is whine that " you cant prove anything" and everyone should just accept your lies and word games as the gospel.... we dont. You like to play semantics games
 
The reason I asked my question should be obvious...to take credit for something when there is NO factual roof that it actually has performed any better then another course of action would have is, IMO, foolish.
What's foolish is the idea anyone's trying to compare. There's no point in dealing with "what ifs", only what was. So I was simply stating the facts.

Anyway, thank you again for answering my question
No problem. Thank you for answering my question on why you asked an irrelevant question.
again DA is asking for you to back up your biased sourcing for an unbiased source
No he wasn't. He didn't question my sources at all. He was asking for sources to information on something which never happened. It's bad enough when you have a hard time understanding the facts I've given you, please don't waste both of our time not understanding what other people are asking too.

but all you do is whine that " you cant prove anything" and everyone should just accept your lies and word games as the gospel.... we dont. You like to play semantics games
I'm not playing any games, I'm dealing with straight facts. I know facts are allergic for some people, but for anyone interested in honest debate, facts are important.

So which do you choose to be? Do you prefer to be someone interested in facts or...well, the other guy?
 
What's foolish is the idea anyone's trying to compare. There's no point in dealing with "what ifs", only what was. So I was simply stating the facts.

No problem. Thank you for answering my question on why you asked an irrelevant question.
No he wasn't. He didn't question my sources at all. He was asking for sources to information on something which never happened. It's bad enough when you have a hard time understanding the facts I've given you, please don't waste both of our time not understanding what other people are asking too.

I'm not playing any games, I'm dealing with straight facts. I know facts are allergic for some people, but for anyone interested in honest debate, facts are important.

So which do you choose to be? Do you prefer to be someone interested in facts or...well, the other guy?


You dont know facts ..period.. I laugh...

you avoid my U-6 facts like all other facts you dismiss with your condescending posts..
 
What's foolish is the idea anyone's trying to compare. There's no point in dealing with "what ifs", only what was. So I was simply stating the facts.

No problem. Thank you for answering my question on why you asked an irrelevant question.
No he wasn't. He didn't question my sources at all. He was asking for sources to information on something which never happened. It's bad enough when you have a hard time understanding the facts I've given you, please don't waste both of our time not understanding what other people are asking too.

I'm not playing any games, I'm dealing with straight facts. I know facts are allergic for some people, but for anyone interested in honest debate, facts are important.

So which do you choose to be? Do you prefer to be someone interested in facts or...well, the other guy?

whats "foolish" to quote you is to bother with you and your overt arrogance.... Im sure I have more people working for me then you do you...

I also have started 3 companies.. Im an owner..I know the real pulse.. I have a feeling you do not..
 
You dont know facts ..period.. I laugh...

you avoid my U-6 facts like all other facts you dismiss with your condescending posts..
I'm simply addressing what you've said in response to me. That's all. You have not provided any U-6 numbers, other than to randomly mention them as you tried to claim Obama wants everyone dependent.
whats "foolish" to quote you is to bother with you and your overt arrogance.... Im sure I have more people working for me then you do you...
I suppose it depends on how you define "working for me", but sure I'll willingly go with the idea you pay more people to work than I do. I fail to see what that has to do with anything, other than the fact I don't feel it necessary to lie on a message board about what I do for a living.

I also have started 3 companies.. Im an owner..I know the real pulse.. I have a feeling you do not..
Anecdotal evidence is never valid. Stick with facts.
 
I'm simply addressing what you've said in response to me. That's all. You have not provided any U-6 numbers, other than to randomly mention them as you tried to claim Obama wants everyone dependent.
I suppose it depends on how you define "working for me", but sure I'll willingly go with the idea you pay more people to work than I do. I fail to see what that has to do with anything, other than the fact I don't feel it necessary to lie on a message board about what I do for a living.

Anecdotal evidence is never valid. Stick with facts.


The fact is Obama is a true blue Alinsky radical Sociaist idealogue.. we all know, who know history what their plan is..

The fact is I create jobs.. you do not.. the fact is your posts are meaningless and empty and just fancy talk on a subject you have no real world ability to talk about..

The fact si Obama has done everything counter intuitive to everything that is known to create a prosperous capital economy

The fact is the U-6 number proves that to be a fact..

The facts is the economy is in shambles and propped up by cheap money by the fed.. created by the Obama economy..

The fact is you dont know facts.... you know fancy verbage and cherry pick .. the fact is Im onto that jive..all job reports show that I am dealing in facts..

real facts show you are wrong
 
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The fact is Obama is a true blue Alinsky radical Sociaist idealogue.. we all know, who know history what their plan is..
Can you provide an unbiased, factual source for this?

The fact is I create jobs.. you do not
Agreed. Do you think this means you're better than me? I teach you and your children. I help give you the tools you need to survive in today's world. Without people like me, you would be far more limited in what you're capable of doing.

I mean, if we're thumping our chests...

the fact is your posts are meaningless and empty and just fancy talk on a subject you have no real world ability to talk about..

The fact si Obama has done everything counter intuitive to everything that is known to create a prosperous capital economy
Again, can you provide an unbiased, factual source for this?

The fact is the U-6 number proves that to be a fact..
The U-6 has dropped 4 and a half points under Obama. How does a better U-6 prove your position?

U6 Unemployment Rate | Portal Seven

The fact is you dont know facts
I'm the only one providing them.

all job reports show that I am dealing in facts..
We've made back every single private sector job lost in the recession. The jobs reports are not something which support you.
 
Can you provide an unbiased, factual source for this?

Agreed. Do you think this means you're better than me? I teach you and your children. I help give you the tools you need to survive in today's world. Without people like me, you would be far more limited in what you're capable of doing.

I mean, if we're thumping our chests...

Again, can you provide an unbiased, factual source for this?

The U-6 has dropped 4 and a half points under Obama. How does a better U-6 prove your position?

U6 Unemployment Rate | Portal Seven

I'm the only one providing them.

We've made back every single private sector job lost in the recession. The jobs reports are not something which support you.

Hey...that's my line.

Just kidding.

;)
 
Can you provide an unbiased, factual source for this?


We've made back every single private sector job lost in the recession. The jobs reports are not something which support you.

That is an absolute lie, the recession began in December 2007 and we had 146 million working Americans and today we have 145 million, hardly recovering all the lost jobs. Further we are almost 6 years into the Obama Administration and we still have almost 20 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers and that isn't a record anyone should proud of. The private sector isn't going to hire until Obama and Biden are fired for they have no idea what the costs are going to be of those employees. Unlike the Federal Govt. private businesses cannot print money.
 
Can you provide an unbiased, factual source for this?

Agreed. Do you think this means you're better than me? I teach you and your children. I help give you the tools you need to survive in today's world. Without people like me, you would be far more limited in what you're capable of doing.

I mean, if we're thumping our chests...

Again, can you provide an unbiased, factual source for this?

The U-6 has dropped 4 and a half points under Obama. How does a better U-6 prove your position?

U6 Unemployment Rate | Portal Seven

I'm the only one providing them.

We've made back every single private sector job lost in the recession. The jobs reports are not something which support you.

if you teach children...Im scared.. you dont even know how to read your own U-6 chart...

Your posts are nonsense
 
That is an absolute lie, the recession began in December 2007 and we had 146 million working Americans and today we have 145 million, hardly recovering all the lost jobs. Further we are almost 6 years into the Obama Administration and we still have almost 20 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers and that isn't a record anyone should proud of. The private sector isn't going to hire until Obama and Biden are fired for they have no idea what the costs are going to be of those employees. Unlike the Federal Govt. private businesses cannot print money.

Bro.... we can even dial it back to when Pelosi and Reid took over the last two years under GWB and started the destruction...
 
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I'm simply addressing what you've said in response to me. That's all. You have not provided any U-6 numbers, other than to randomly mention them as you tried to claim Obama wants everyone dependent.
I suppose it depends on how you define "working for me", but sure I'll willingly go with the idea you pay more people to work than I do. I fail to see what that has to do with anything, other than the fact I don't feel it necessary to lie on a message board about what I do for a living.

Anecdotal evidence is never valid. Stick with facts.

I employ people..

you appear to be in a teachers union...
 
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Can you provide an unbiased, factual source for this?

Agreed. Do you think this means you're better than me? I teach you and your children. I help give you the tools you need to survive in today's world. Without people like me, you would be far more limited in what you're capable of doing.

I mean, if we're thumping our chests...

Again, can you provide an unbiased, factual source for this?

The U-6 has dropped 4 and a half points under Obama. How does a better U-6 prove your position?

U6 Unemployment Rate | Portal Seven

I'm the only one providing them.

We've made back every single private sector job lost in the recession. The jobs reports are not something which support you.


You dont "teach me"..??? (I will chalk that up is just more condescending sniping)... or my children... nor do you provide me with anything but bluster and nonsense along with agenda driven Lib talking points..

again.. I hire people.. I fire people.. I look at the P & L all day...I aquire companies and competitors... I see the real economy.. I know what Obamacare does to jobs.. I know what lib policy does to the private sector and companies are not growing... Im sorry that reality and facts dont jive with you..I teach you.. and I may hire your children...

God forbid you ever teach children...

You may have fancy typing but I see right through your liberal talking points.. and who talks in absolutes like you with your " we made back every job"...laughable,,,, look at the states that are growing jobs and look who the Gov is in each
 
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