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Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

Mozilla is already facing a counter boycott and this one will probably be worse than the one OKcupid could muster together. Even corporations have to realize actions have consequences. You cannot oust someone because they simply have an opposing opinion. It's not illegal but it is certainly unamerican! The Mozilla Boycott Begins
 
Sorry I should have clarified myself in this regard. People individually decide what is moral and what isn't. Society decides what morals are LEGAL and what isn't.

A serial killer decides that murder is moral, society decides that it isn't legal.

Thanks for your response. This subject interests me but I don't want to sidetrack this interesting thread either.
 
Yeah, really. If people are to be targeted in a "purge" for having supported traditional marriage what else would you call it?

I don't know if this had been mentioned before but if a donations list, or who you voted for in an election, becomes public through the media then an 'enemies' list has immediately been created. This is certainly the case here and what happened to conservative groups stalled and audited and intimately questioned by IRS as well. The slow thinkers in society may be pleased now but never seem to grasp the larger implications of all of this and where it might lead.

It's heartening to read that many Gays are speaking are now out against this insanity and don't want to be associated at all with this sorry business..
 
The more people off that steaming pile FF the better. However, browsers aren't political and the CEO should be able to give to whatever cause he wants on his own dime. I don't care if it's the Fund For Raping Albino Pigmies.

How about dumping the stupid gay drama bull**** and do a little work on actual functionality.
 
OK, I got ya, I think....So, people that disagree with the LGBT agenda are free to have those beliefs, as long as they don't speak them publicly, or donate anything to opposition of them, or else they open themselves to harassment, and attack to the point where they are forced to resign from their job...And this isn't fascism? I mean I get that people are passionate about this issue, but how is it that any squelching of LGBT voicing their agenda in the public square, ie protest, or donation, or what ever would be seen by advocates as a stomping on the free speech rights of the LGBT community, and would be met with ramped up vitriol, and cries of fascistic suppression. However, because it is aimed not AT the LGBT community, but rather at an individual that did little more than donate years ago to a cause on a ballot up for referendum by the people, and chose what is perceived by the passionate as "the wrong side", well, then he must be 'isolated, destroyed, and marginalized' in the purest form of Alinski style debasement.

How is it that the supporters of these memes cant see how it is that they are carrying out what they claim to be attacking? I just don't get it I suppose.

Leftists have often used the term 'fascist' (without obviously its understanding meaning or history) to describe those with opinions different to their own, but this is an example of genuine fascism and they don't even recognize it.
 
Mozilla is already facing a counter boycott and this one will probably be worse than the one OKcupid could muster together. Even corporations have to realize actions have consequences. You cannot oust someone because they simply have an opposing opinion. It's not illegal but it is certainly unamerican! The Mozilla Boycott Begins

I am pro-gay marriage.

But my husband & I both installed Mozilla and have gotten some of our friends and family to do the same. I also will never support any company that advertises on Firefox.

Mozilla owns this now.
 
Really? I don't see them passing laws against gay marriage.

Clinton was the president who passed the Defense of Marriage Act with his wife and Obama agreeing with this at the time this proposition 8 was voted upon. You have been misinformed if you believe they were passing any laws at all during this referendum.
 
I am pro-gay marriage.

But my husband & I both installed Mozilla and have gotten some of our friends and family to do the same. I also will never support any company that advertises on Firefox.

Mozilla owns this now.

I'd like to follow your example. Can you tell me which browser you moved to, or would you like that to remain private?
 
I'd like to follow your example. Can you tell me which browser you moved to, or would you like that to remain private?

Google Chrome on my husband's computer, and IE on mine.

And it felt good moving away from Firefox.
 
Any person can lose their job in a private work place for political opinions. Why aren't people outraged about ordinary people being fired for such things? People are spending so much time trying to make this CEO some kind of Martyr. If we want things changed for people, it should change for EVERYONE, otherwise what is good for the goose is good for the gander. People will continue to get fired for voicing or supporting a cause that may be very controversial.

Supporting marriage is not controversial. Since most people are employed at will, they can get fired at anytime. I'm not quite sure what you are proposing. Forcing employers to keep people that they don't want?
 
It's more than polarizing. It's repugnant, and counterproductive to people who support gay rights:



Be sure to bathe yourself in that last sentence so you completely absorb it.

It's not more than polarizing IT IS POLARIZING. I think it's repugnant to take a topic which many people can come together and discuss that there is some issues to be discussed and instead of trying to find common ground, they polarize the issue. The facts are that ANYBODY can get fired for saying anything about politics in or outside work. This is a problem for EVERYONE. This is not an us vs. them issue or a gay rights groups are evil issue. Until people want to put down their partisan swords nothing will change. Just same sh*t different day.
 
Supporting marriage is not controversial. Since most people are employed at will, they can get fired at anytime. I'm not quite sure what you are proposing. Forcing employers to keep people that they don't want?
If it's ok to fire someone for being anti-gay marriage it's ok to fire someone for being pro-gay marriage.
It's ok to not make a wedding cake for a gay wedding because you're anti-gay marriage.
 
It's not more than polarizing IT IS POLARIZING. I think it's repugnant to take a topic which many people can come together and discuss that there is some issues to be discussed and instead of trying to find common ground, they polarize the issue. The facts are that ANYBODY can get fired for saying anything about politics in or outside work. This is a problem for EVERYONE. This is not an us vs. them issue or a gay rights groups are evil issue. Until people want to put down their partisan swords nothing will change. Just same sh*t different day.

Then where does it stop? Why not start protecting people's private held opinions starting with this guy? Instead you point to other cases in the past which, it seems to me, you use to justify your position here.
 
Leftists have often used the term 'fascist' (without obviously its understanding meaning or history) to describe those with opinions different to their own, but this is an example of genuine fascism and they don't even recognize it.

Okay, so let me see if I'm understanding what you are saying...everytime someone gets fired for speaking their opinion at work is on the back end of fascism?
 
It's not more than polarizing IT IS POLARIZING. I think it's repugnant to take a topic which many people can come together and discuss that there is some issues to be discussed and instead of trying to find common ground, they polarize the issue. The facts are that ANYBODY can get fired for saying anything about politics in or outside work. This is a problem for EVERYONE. This is not an us vs. them issue or a gay rights groups are evil issue. Until people want to put down their partisan swords nothing will change. Just same sh*t different day.

The Politicization of Every Single Damn Thing is indeed an unfortunate (ongoing) development.

There is a reason why even Andrew Sullivan thinks this was wrong.

The Hounding Of A Heretic

The guy who had the gall to express his First Amendment rights and favor Prop 8 in California by donating $1,000 has just been scalped by some gay activists. After an OKCupid decision to boycott Mozilla, the recently appointed Brendan Eich just resigned under pressure...

Will he now be forced to walk through the streets in shame? Why not the stocks? The whole episode disgusts me – as it should disgust anyone interested in a tolerant and diverse society. If this is the gay rights movement today – hounding our opponents with a fanaticism more like the religious right than anyone else – then count me out. If we are about intimidating the free speech of others, we are no better than the anti-gay bullies who came before us.
 
The Politicization of Every Single Damn Thing is indeed an unfortunate (ongoing) development.

There is a reason why even Andrew Sullivan thinks this was wrong.

They called a boycott against a man that gave money to outlaw marriage for them. That is what happened. Both these people have rights to speak out.
 
They called a boycott against a man that gave money to outlaw marriage for them. That is what happened. Both these people have rights to speak out.

And now here is a growing boycott against Mozilla and many Gays are being embarrassed by this harassment of Eich.. Is there a winner in any of this?
 
Supporting marriage is not controversial. Since most people are employed at will, they can get fired at anytime. I'm not quite sure what you are proposing. Forcing employers to keep people that they don't want?
Everything is controversial. Well, nearly everything.

I would suggest that political views are not a valid reason to either hire or fire a person. On the other hand, arguments could be made for firing a person if their presence is disruptive enough.
 
And now here is a growing boycott against Mozilla and many Gays are being embarrassed by this harassment of Eich.. Is there a winner in any of this?

Probably just Eich, who with any luck walked away from a pathetic company with a big fat severance check.
 
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