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Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

Navy Pride said:
Actually his position then was the same as Obama's and Hillary's then.....Where are the gays outrage against them?:confused:
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Obama and Hilary donated to prop 8?

link?
facts?

another posted lie and strawman fails lol
 
AGENT J said:
well i called that perfectly, thank you for dodging my questions and proving me right again

1.) yes i understand all the lies you try to seel in your post and i already told you im not a progressive lol another failed strawman by you
2.) I know this, eventhough you stated you hate gays
3.) well good thing this inst "factually" happening its just you opinion that you cant support with any facts what so ever
4.) no there are no gays that agree with your opinion of hating gays
your post fails again

now ill ask my questions again to see if you can support your claims yet

Could you tell us why you posted that you hate gays?
then prove that i have favoritism
then prove its all and only progressives that support equal rights
then prove explain to us what a protected classes is that shows favoritism and excludes what ever you are?

thanks, we'll be waiting
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You didn't call anything - you're just talking **** or are regurgitating progressive talking points.

You're accusing me of **** when you don't even know me.
 
rabbitcaebannog said:
Any person can lose their job in a private work place for political opinions. Why aren't people outraged about ordinary people being fired for such things? People are spending so much time trying to make this CEO some kind of Martyr. If we want things changed for people, it should change for EVERYONE, otherwise what is good for the goose is good for the gander. People will continue to get fired for voicing or supporting a cause that may be very controversial.
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Prop 8 was overturned.

Eich lost.

Gays can marry in California.

So what was the anti-Eich crusade about?
 
rabbitcaebannog said:
It's a little pathetic for the same people to bring partisan rhetoric into every frickin single thread. Feel free to indulge with those like minded.
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Someone declare you the overseer of the thread? I personally couldn't care less what you do or don't find acceptable or not. That you don't like what I said, and won't engage me other than some drive by bs is quite amusing. And changes nothing as to my comment.

Have a nice day.
 
Mr.Nick said:
1.)You didn't call anything - you're just talking **** or are regurgitating progressive talking points.

You're accusing me of **** when you don't even know me.
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i called the fact you would deflect and dodge the question because you can support your failed arguments. In fact you did AGAIN. You dodge them again. I bet you dodge them again, ill ask again

all you have to do is support the following
give factual prove that i have favoritism and only progressives support equal rights, then prove and explain to us what a protected classes is that shows favoritism and it excludes what ever you are?

you will dodge this again and this is why your posts are failing and getting destroyed by muiltiple poster, let us know when you can answer and stop dodging.
 
AGENT J said:
Obama and Hilary donated to prop 8?

link?
facts?

another posted lie and strawman fails lol
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Both Obama and Clinton opposed gay marriage in 2008.
 
AGENT J said:
translation: you cant defend your stance so you deflect and try and failed insult.
Im sorry free speech and rights bother you
let me know when you can defend your stance.
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Whether directed at one man or a whole people, tyranny is tyranny. I note you chose to dodge the central point of Andrew Sullivan's critique. If Sullivan isn't to your taste, try Orwell.

“Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
― George Orwell, Animal Farm :peace
 
BobbyO said:
Both Obama and Clinton opposed gay marriage in 2008.
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weird not what i asked at all.

lets try again
Obama and Hilary donated to prop 8?

link?
facts?
if not the posted lie and strawman still fails
 
Carjosse said:
Free speech does not mean people can't hate you, it is not fascist to want to remove your CEO because he is homophobic. The CEO was harming the reputation of the company and employees disagreed with him.
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Then you got to ask yourself what makes people hate so much that they would do what they did? Eich wasn't the one hating! He wasn't a f-ing homophobic he simply believed that marriage was defined to mean to be between a man and a woman. Brendan Eich, by the way, did not become an activist on gay marriage, or anti-gay marriage. He just gave 'em some money. He didn't join any marches; he wasn't out trying to raise money. He just donated $1,000 and it was discovered four years after the fact. Four F-ing years!
 
j-mac said:
Someone declare you the overseer of the thread? I personally couldn't care less what you do or don't find acceptable or not. That you don't like what I said, and won't engage me other than some drive by bs is quite amusing. And changes nothing as to my comment.

Have a nice day.
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That wasn't very nice of me. Sorry. I just wasn't discussing Obama and have no idea why people were addressing my point with Obama. I took my frustration out on you:(
 
Navy Pride said:
Actually his position then was the same as Obama's and Hillary's then.....Where are the gays outrage against them?:confused:
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I have no idea what you're talking about here.

Pres Obama and Hillary Clinton supported Prop 8 in some way?

I do not recall hearing about this.
 
AGENT J said:
translation: you cant defend your stance so you deflect and try and failed insult.
Im sorry free speech and rights bother you
let me know when you can defend your stance.
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SCOTUS has ruled that campaign donations are a form a free and protected speech.
Eich's free speech was revealed and there's a huge LGBT outrage. Vindication taken against his company.
(What's that statute of limitations of campaign contributions?)
Eich is forced to leave the company he founded due to the ensuing boycotts
LGBT's and supporters rejoice, feel justice was done, and don't see the problem they've caused

Given that this has been witnessed by many, what's the likelihood that this now has a chilling effect on rights and free speech of others beside the LGBT community?
Or do those people don't count anymore when they have dissenting opinions?
 
AGENT J said:
weird not what i asked at all.

lets try again
Obama and Hilary donated to prop 8?

link?
facts?
if not the posted lie and strawman still fails
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Nobody claimed they did.

The claim is that all three had the same opinion on gay marriage--- agin' it.
 
Jack Hays said:
Whether directed at one man or a whole people, tyranny is tyranny.
2.) I note you chose to dodge the central point of Andrew Sullivan's critique. If Sullivan isn't to your taste, try Orwell.

“Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
― George Orwell, Animal Farm :peace
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1.)there was factual tyranny? interesting. Link? proof? facts?
2.) i dodge nothing, posting lies wont help you lol

i couldnt care less about either those critiques because they have ZERO to do with me LOL

time to further destroy your assumptions.

by all means tell me "my stance" and why those critiques matter to anything you claim, seems you are having an argument in your head that im not. Try to stick to facts and what i have actually said if you are going to try to have a honest conversation with me. lol

again im sorry you are bothered by free speech and rights and that you think i support something you are making up in your head but i dont
 
BobbyO said:
Yep... purge te folks who have dissenting opinions.
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Yes, and my point in my other post you responded to is that this happens to people in the work force all the time. Something as simple as having the wrong bumper sticker on your private property can get you fired. This must equally outrage you?
 
BobbyO said:
Nobody claimed they did.

The claim is that all three had the same opinion on gay marriage--- agin' it.
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WRONG lol
"opinions" arent the issue here

its his ACTIONS that are, its the donation that is the issue with people

there are lots of people that have an OPINION that marriage should be between a man and woman but they would never fight against equal rights. Thats a HUGE difference.

so grouping all 3 together is factually false and intellectually dishonest
 
AGENT J said:
1.)there was factual tyranny? interesting. Link? proof? facts?
2.) i dodge nothing, posting lies wont help you lol

i couldnt care less about either those critiques because they have ZERO to do with me LOL

time to further destroy your assumptions.

by all means tell me "my stance" and why those critiques matter to anything you claim, seems you are having an argument in your head that im not. Try to stick to facts and what i have actually said if you are going to try to have a honest conversation with me. lol

again im sorry you are bothered by free speech and rights and that you think i support something you are making up in your head but i dont
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As I suspected, the issues involved are beyond you.:peace

"If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind." --J.S. Mill
 
Carjosse said:
Free speech does not mean people can't hate you, it is not fascist to want to remove your CEO because he is homophobic. The CEO was harming the reputation of the company and employees disagreed with him.
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Where is the evidence that he was "homophobic"?

If you have to lie to support your position then it might be a good idea to reexamine that position.
 
So, just a general question about this topic in general.

If one just thinks that a marriage is between a man and a woman, but doesn't care if guy people want to marry, and have that recognized for legal purposes, does that make this person a "bigot"? And why?
 
rabbitcaebannog said:
Yes, and my point in my other post you responded to is that this happens to people in the work force all the time. Something as simple as having the wrong bumper sticker on your private property can get you fired. This must equally outrage you?
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It doesn't happen all the time and there are laws against it. When these types of issues occur, its generally because that political issue is causing a work issue.

Eich did not go around Mozzilla proselthyzing his objection to Prop 8. The disruption is caused by people who do want to shut people up who have opinions on marriage as did Eich up.
 
eohrnberger said:
1.)SCOTUS has ruled that campaign donations are a form a free and protected speech.
2.) Eich's free speech was revealed and there's a huge LGBT outrage. Vindication taken against his company.
3.) (What's that statute of limitations of campaign contributions?)
4.) Eich is forced to leave the company he founded
5.)due to the ensuing boycotts
6.) LGBT's and supporters rejoice, feel justice was done, and don't see the problem they've caused
7.)Given that this has been witnessed by many, what's the likelihood that this now has a chilling effect on rights and free speech of others beside the LGBT community?
Or do those people don't count anymore when they have dissenting opinions?
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1.) yes its free speech i agree
2.) which is ALSO free speech, lets not forget this FACTS lol
3.) meaningless to anything being discussed
4.) no proof he was forced or illegal ativity
5.) again FREE speech you cant pick and choose when you want it
6.) yes some do feel that way, again nothing illegal happened
7.) there is no impact in reality since the whole issue is free speech, again you cant pick and choose
8.) again read above lol

this is why the free speech strawman completely fails it applies to us ALL

i dont like what west boro does but they have that right.

THe CEO has a right to be a bigot and other have a right to say they dont like it and boycott the company

all legal all protected by rights :shrug:

what is YOUR solution? only allow the CEO his rights and not others?

let me know what you come up with im dying to know
 
j-mac said:
So, just a general question about this topic in general.

If one just thinks that a marriage is between a man and a woman, but doesn't care if guy people want to marry, and have that recognized for legal purposes, does that make this person a "bigot"? And why?
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The stupids throw the bigot word around because they are stupid. That's all there is to it.
 
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