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When we had a tragedy in 9/11 as you mentioned it, there were no lefties and righties.
President Bush had the full support of the Nation, as you know, and as he should have.
The blood of our Soldiers knows no lean NP .

Navy thinks only righties are buried in Arlington.
 
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4 dead 14 wounded...... they are saying the shooter was a Specialist. At least that's what they are saying on the radio. Most wounds they are saying were Head and Upper chest. Anyone get anything on that to validate?


Fort Hood shooting reportedly leaves 4 dead, including gunman

According to KCEN-TV, the four reported dead included the gunman. At least 14 were injured in the shooting, the Associated Press said.

http://news.yahoo.com/fort-hood-shooting-222528983.html
 
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I've mentioned to him to tour Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery where my Dad's buried just south of Joliet, IL some day.
Also just south of Chicagoland Nascar Speedway for reference.
It is located on the old proving grounds of JAAP/APSA, a huge installation during the Vietnam War.

Overwhelming to say the least, the computerized cemetary never looks the same between visits,
with the incredibly large number of VETs dying every day from wars back to WW2.

Though he pisses me off with this crap, I'll never give up on helping him find peace before he dies .
Navy thinks only righties are buried in Arlington.
 
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Excuse me if I don't get into the pissing match here but this hurts to hear of another shooting of innocent people.

If someone is willing to make it a suicide mission it is almost virtually impossible to prevent it. It is hard to comprehend what makes a person react like that.

It is interesting that it seems suicide killers in the Middle East prefer bombs and here in the US they prefer guns. Of the two weapons if I had to make a choice I would prefer to deal with someone with a gun rather than a bomb. Am not making any rant about guns or bombs but just an observation so the pissers can go piss on themselves.
 
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One has to wonder what's going on in the military that such incidents are happening more frequently. Pretty soon, these incidents are going to be as common as school shootings, even if they are still shocking each time they happen.

It ain't, but this is the second time in recent history that there was an active shooter on this Fort.

BTW, aren't all those laws about monitoring the People and gathering all our data and drones and patriot act nonsense supposed to stop things like this? Hmmmm...

And here I thought all those warrantless searches and massive data collection and analysis and the plethora of other Big Brother activities were gonna keep me safe.

Another terrorist attack on Obama's watch.......Probably caused by a video.........yeah right.


It's probably not terrorism.

You guys can stow your favorite talking points.
 
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Oh no. Not another one of these. :(

And inb4 yet another gun control debate breaks out.
 
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It is interesting that it seems suicide killers in the Middle East prefer bombs and here in the US they prefer guns. Of the two weapons if I had to make a choice I would prefer to deal with someone with a gun rather than a bomb. Am not making any rant about guns or bombs but just an observation so the pissers can go piss on themselves.

Bombs are cheaper than guns.
 
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Another terrorist attack on Obama's watch.......Probably caused by a video.........yeah right.

Do you have any evidence that this was a terrorist attack rather than someone simply going crazy? It is completely possible to shoot people just because a person is crazy, without having any political agenda whatsoever (which is required to define such an attack as a terrorist attack).

Take the guy just last week who killed the sailor onboard the ship. Doesn't sound like it was terrorism, although his real motives are unknown at this time.

Family felt Navy base shooter had changed his life | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

And from what I just read, it sounds like it was some sort of fight between two people that got way out of control.

Ft. Hood shooting was reportedly 'soldier on soldier' incident | Fox News

So it seems this one may have just been the result of anger leading to very stupid and fatal decision, and then possibly fear or perhaps even insanity leading to further shootings.
 
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Wow that is sad, especially if it is true that it all started over a fight between soldiers.
 
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UPDATE: Fort Hood shooting leaves 4 dead, including gunman - Shooter identified.

The shooter, identified as 34-year-old soldier Ivan Lopez, died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound, the Justice Department said.

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- A police officer checks drivers' IDs outside the main gate at Fort Hood, Texas, after a shooting at the Army base Wednesday, April 2, 2014

http://news.yahoo.com/fort-hood-shooting-222528983.html
 
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There is an active shooter at the sprawling central Texas base of Fort Hood, a source at Fort Hood told CNN on Wednesday.

The situation is serious and sirens are going off, said the source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

A spokesman for the base said an "incident" was under way but declined for provide additional information.

Fort Hood's official Twitter feed asked that all personnel on post to shelter in place.

Multiple casualties

Source: Active shooter at Fort Hood - CNN.com

Bull ****. Most of Fort Hood is a "GUN FREE ZONE" established during the Clinton administration. What part of "gun free zone" that soldiers don't understand ?

**** like this didn't happen on military installations until 2009. :thinking

What's different today besides using the military for social engineering experimentation ?

Civilians are now found at the main gates and are used for providing exterior guard and interior guard and law enforcement on bases today. Someone believes that the military can't police themselves even though they had a 200 year track record of doing so.

Then you have a Cn'C who said that he would change the face of the U.S. military, Some lefty idea that the face of the military should look like the face of America not realizing if the face of the military looked like America the military would have the same problems that America has.

Then there's the war against tobacco. Soldiers use to be able to light up to calm their nerves and to be able to deal with the stresses of serving in the military not to mention combat. Has anyone noticed as there was less access to cigarettes in the military during wartime, an increase with combat PTSD ? Today you have soldiers suffering from PTSD who never been in combat.

What's next on the liberal agenda, banning cigarette sales aboard ship and we have sailors going on shooting sprees while at sea ? I wonder if those liberals in Congress who do plan on doing that remember that they also refused back in the 90's appropriating funding on keeping Marine detachments on Navy ships believing that sailors could police themselves. That's when Navy ships went from being warships into becoming love boats.
 
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Bull ****. Most of Fort Hood is a "GUN FREE ZONE" established during the Clinton administration. What part of "gun free zone" that soldiers don't understand ?

**** like this didn't happen on military installations until 2009. :thinking

What's different today besides using the military for social engineering experimentation ?

Civilians are now found at the main gates and are used for providing exterior guard and interior guard and law enforcement on bases today. Someone believes that the military can't police themselves even though they had a 200 year track record of doing so.

Then you have a Cn'C who said that he would change the face of the U.S. military, Some lefty idea that the face of the military should look like the face of America not realizing if the face of the military looked like America the military would have the same problems that America has.

Then there's the war against tobacco. Soldiers use to be able to light up to calm their nerves and to be able to deal with the stresses of serving in the military not to mention combat. Has anyone noticed as there was less access to cigarettes in the military during wartime, an increase with combat PTSD ? Today you have soldiers suffering from PTSD who never been in combat.

What's next on the liberal agenda, banning cigarette sales aboard ship and we have sailors going on shooting sprees while at sea ? I wonder if those liberals in Congress who do plan on doing that remember that they also refused back in the 90's appropriating funding on keeping Marine detachments on Navy ships believing that sailors could police themselves. That's when Navy ships went from being warships into becoming love boats.

Every single last one of your each and every post ends with blaming Obama or the "Liberals." What next your toilet bowl is running so that's Obama and the liberals fault too? Good grief man give it a rest and get a life.

What are you going to do when the next president for the next two terms is also a democrat? Have a nervous breakdown?
 
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more bang for the buck!

Personally, I'd go after a water source or small pox a few international airports and flights by infecting myself. Given the various options with more bang for the buck, it seems safe to say that gun crimes save lives.
 
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Every single last one of your each and every post ends with blaming Obama or the "Liberals." What next your toilet bowl is running so that's Obama and the liberals fault too? Good grief man give it a rest and get a life.

What are you going to do when the next president for the next two terms is also a democrat? Have a nervous breakdown?

Gotcha !

I pointed out that "gun free zones" on military installations was initiated during the Clinton administration.

Removing bolts from rifles making them unoperable and having U.S. Marines to violate their own regulations and have them carring umbrellas happened under Obama's command.

That there has been numerous of shootings aboard military installations in the past five years and they didn't happen before.

I look at todays military and it isn't the same military I remember, or my father, his father or even George Washington. Todays military is starting to look like the face of America with all of it's problems.

In 2009, Barack Obama said that he planned to change the face of the military so it looked like the face of America. Social engineering and the dumbing down of the military has how he has been doing it. He didn't mention the dismantling of the military but he also been doing that.
 
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Bombs are cheaper than guns.

That is true to a certain extent. I just wonder if there is any psychological factoring in picking one's poison. A bomb is less personal. A gun takes you one on one with the victim but from some distance. A knife would have to be the most personal.

Or I could be totally off course and perhaps it is just a cultural thing.
 
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According to the article the guy was being treated for the possibility of PTSD and he purchased a firearm recently Something is wrong with this picture.
 
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Gotcha !

I pointed out that "gun free zones" on military installations was initiated during the Clinton administration.
If this was important, why didn't Bush/Cheney correct it ?
 
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If this was important, why didn't Bush/Cheney correct it ?

The Congressional 9/11 Commission Report asked similar questions.

That the Clinton administration said that Al Qaeda was a law enforcement issue not a national security issue and went further to put up a "wall" where the FBI, CIA, ONI, NSA, USBP, INS, USCS, USMS, and state, county and local law enforcement couldn't share information with each other.

But President G.W. Bush didn't spend eight years blaming Clinton's failed counter terrorist policies.
 
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so every DEM was a failure as CiC and every GOP was a genius .
The Congressional 9/11 Commission Report asked similar questions.

That the Clinton administration said that Al Qaeda was a law enforcement issue not a national security issue and went further to put up a "wall" where the FBI, CIA, ONI, NSA, USBP, INS, USCS, USMS, and state, county and local law enforcement couldn't share information with each other.

But President G.W. Bush didn't spend eight years blaming Clinton's failed counter terrorist policies.
 
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Gotcha !

I pointed out that "gun free zones" on military installations was initiated during the Clinton administration.

Removing bolts from rifles making them unoperable and having U.S. Marines to violate their own regulations and have them carring umbrellas happened under Obama's command.

That there has been numerous of shootings aboard military installations in the past five years and they didn't happen before.

I look at todays military and it isn't the same military I remember, or my father, his father or even George Washington. Todays military is starting to look like the face of America with all of it's problems.

In 2009, Barack Obama said that he planned to change the face of the military so it looked like the face of America. Social engineering and the dumbing down of the military has how he has been doing it. He didn't mention the dismantling of the military but he also been doing that.

Stop your crying and blaming others.

In this case a soldier wounded and killed other soldiers.

Nobody to blame but him.
 
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This is awful. My thoughts and best wishes are with all affected.
 
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Are you suggesting that the two shooting are somehow related? Wow, do you have a link? Of course you don't.

Both shooting happened at Ft Hood. Both were soldier on soldier. Lopez has a Muslim name...........you do the math.
 
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Bull ****. Most of Fort Hood is a "GUN FREE ZONE" established during the Clinton administration. What part of "gun free zone" that soldiers don't understand ?

**** like this didn't happen on military installations until 2009. :thinking

What's different today besides using the military for social engineering experimentation ?

Civilians are now found at the main gates and are used for providing exterior guard and interior guard and law enforcement on bases today. Someone believes that the military can't police themselves even though they had a 200 year track record of doing so.

Then you have a Cn'C who said that he would change the face of the U.S. military, Some lefty idea that the face of the military should look like the face of America not realizing if the face of the military looked like America the military would have the same problems that America has.

Then there's the war against tobacco. Soldiers use to be able to light up to calm their nerves and to be able to deal with the stresses of serving in the military not to mention combat. Has anyone noticed as there was less access to cigarettes in the military during wartime, an increase with combat PTSD ? Today you have soldiers suffering from PTSD who never been in combat.

What's next on the liberal agenda, banning cigarette sales aboard ship and we have sailors going on shooting sprees while at sea ? I wonder if those liberals in Congress who do plan on doing that remember that they also refused back in the 90's appropriating funding on keeping Marine detachments on Navy ships believing that sailors could police themselves. That's when Navy ships went from being warships into becoming love boats.

Thankfully, everyone with any experience in the last 10 years or so will know that this argument is laughable.
 
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