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Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263:617]

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Travis007 said:
You got destroyed.. your DNC Pelosi BS is debunked..

your childish jibberish is symantics and for children... the adults all see you are a shill..
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I think it's funny you're just repeating the same things you said before, while completely ignoring the fact I was 100% right and you were 100% wrong. Instead of attacking me to cover up you being wrong, how about you just admit I was right and move on already? Calling me childish when you're the doing little more than sticking your fingers in your ears and sticking your tongue out is quite humorous.

At the end of the day, you don't have to buy insurance. Should you buy insurance? Yes, people should have insurance and 6 million people have done this. Is that number a big win for Obamacare? Personally, I don't see anything as really a win or loss, just a "that's reality". But the idea 6 million people electing to sign up for insurance is somehow the government stealing our freedoms is absurd.

You don't have to buy insurance. I told you that and I was right. You do not seem to understand anything about the law. Just admit this and we'll be cool. :)
 
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Slyfox696 said:
I think it's funny you're just repeating the same things you said before, while completely ignoring the fact I was 100% right and you were 100% wrong. Instead of attacking me to cover up you being wrong, how about you just admit I was right and move on already? Calling me childish when you're the doing little more than sticking your fingers in your ears and sticking your tongue out is quite humorous.

At the end of the day, you don't have to buy insurance. Should you buy insurance? Yes, people should have insurance and 6 million people have done this. Is that number a big win for Obamacare? Personally, I don't see anything as really a win or loss, just a "that's reality". But the idea 6 million people electing to sign up for insurance is somehow the government stealing our freedoms is absurd.

You don't have to buy insurance. I told you that and I was right. You do not seem to understand anything about the law. Just admit this and we'll be cool. :)
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So then what exactly is being "mandated"?
 
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tres borrachos said:
So then what exactly is being "mandated"?
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That you either buy gov't approved "private" medical care insurance, getting federal assistance (a PPACA exchange subsidy or "free" Medicaid) if your income is low, claim a hardship exemption or pay a fine (additional income tax?) for not doing so. Since 85% now have employer provided (or subsidized) medical care insurance this "mandate" applies only to those now paying federal income tax and not covered by any gov't approved (or provided) medical care insurance.
 
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sangha said:
The "individual mandate" is about mandating about as much as the PATRIOT Act was about patriots
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So forcing to pay someone for something that they choose not to do isn't govt. forcing a private citizen to participate in a program the govt. wants? Did you ever think that this new entitlement program simply gives the govt. more money to waste? Of course not, the 250 billion in debt service is ignored. Wonder how many that would insure each and ever year?
 
Top Cat said:
Obamacare tops 6 million signups - Mar. 27, 2014


Funny, no mention of this on Fox? Shocking I tell you. Shocking.
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Well the six million is a bit on the fuzzy side as all politicians play fast and loose with data.
Still, it is interesting that "approximately 6 million" people sought health insurance coverage
under a program with a flawed roll-out and groups of people throwing everything-but-the-kitchen-sink
in an attempt to derail it.
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
That you either buy gov't approved "private" medical care insurance, getting federal assistance (a PPACA exchange subsidy or "free" Medicaid) if your income is low, claim a hardship exemption or pay a fine (additional income tax?) for not doing so. Since 85% now have employer provided (or subsidized) medical care insurance this "mandate" applies only to those now paying federal income tax and not covered by any gov't approved (or provided) medical care insurance.
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So in other words, you're forced into doing something.
 
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Slyfox696 said:
Nonsense, you made yourself clear earlier when you all but admitted you would never call it a success. I asked you point blank and you just ignored it twice. You have almost no credibility on this topic.
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How ironically comical. Your head is so far up Obama's butt, I can hardly hear you mumble.
 
Top Cat said:
Obamacare tops 6 million signups - Mar. 27, 2014


Funny, no mention of this on Fox? Shocking I tell you. Shocking.
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Funny? It's funny that no mention of how many PAID when they signed up!
Funny no mention of how many are paying higher premiums.
Funny no mention of how many had the previous insurance ripped away from them.
Funny no mention of how many signed up in order to avoid be charged a fine by the IRS.
Yeah Obama Care is funny alright and we have not yet heard the punch line.
 
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Mr.Nick said:
You're wrong - very wrong! Only 35% of US citizens have private plans. Even if you want to get really liberal 50% of ALL US citizens are covered under a private plan (but 50% is just not realistic).... Either way 2% is extremely insignificant...

In order for Obamacare to even be a program worthwhile you would have to see 60-70 million people enroll...

That is not going to happen.
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You are correct. I know I didn't enroll this year and I don't plan to enroll in the near future. Perhaps when this idiot leaves the White House there is a possibility things will get better.
 
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Slyfox696 said:
I'm willing to pay a little more to make sure people can get the care they need.
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You can start by subsidizing me, I don't have insurance. PM me and I will tell you where to mail the check.
 
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Erod said:
How ironically comical. Your head is so far up Obama's butt, I can hardly hear you mumble.
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Because I prefer facts instead of taking a position based upon team politics?

You've already all but admitted you will never call it a success. You did, I can quote you if you'd like. How does someone like that have any credibility then on objectively determining the success of the legislation? It's simple, you don't.
Texmex said:
You can start by subsidizing me, I don't have insurance. PM me and I will tell you where to mail the check.
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Sign up through the exchange, and if your income doesn't meet a certain level, I'll be happy to do my part to help the government subsidize you. Just be sure to thank Obamacare when you get the insurance you couldn't previously afford.
 
rhinefire said:
Funny? It's funny that no mention of how many PAID when they signed up!
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Not in that article. But many others suggest 80 plus percent. Now back to right wing, radio you go.
 
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Slyfox696 said:
Because I prefer facts instead of taking a position based upon team politics?

You've already all but admitted you will never call it a success. You did, I can quote you if you'd like. How does someone like that have any credibility then on objectively determining the success of the legislation? It's simple, you don't.

Sign up through the exchange, and if your income doesn't meet a certain level, I'll be happy to do my part to help the government subsidize you. Just be sure to thank Obamacare when you get the insurance you couldn't previously afford.
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Facts? What do you know about facts? Do you call a program designed to get most of the 45 million reported uninsured and only gets 6-7 million a success? It is this kind of low standards along with poor logic and common sense that keeps people unemployed
 
Top Cat said:
Not in that article. But many others suggest 80 plus percent. Now back to right wing, radio you go.
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80% of what number and how many of them were people who lost their health insurance? How many were truly uninsured and not eligible for Medicaid prior to Obamacare? Doesn't seem to be much in the way of demand for information by Obama supporters. Anything to prop up this incompetent empty suit
 
Conservative said:
80% of what number and how many of them were people who lost their health insurance? How many were truly uninsured and not eligible for Medicaid prior to Obamacare? Doesn't seem to be much in the way of demand for information by Obama supporters. Anything to prop up this incompetent empty suit
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I'm sorry, the nearly half billion dollar cost of the website cannot provide that information. Nor can it provide any data regarding payment. Please try again later.
 
Ockham said:
I'm sorry, the nearly half billion dollar cost of the website cannot provide that information. Nor can it provide any data regarding payment. Please try again later.
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Why would the site provide that information? That's hilarious. Turn down Fake News for crying out loud.
 
Top Cat said:
Why would the site provide that information? That's hilarious. Turn down Fake News for crying out loud.
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I know right? Why WOULD they - it's not like the entire website is an over paid for and spent joke and Obamacare has a shred of credibility in the first place... why start now! Good point!
 
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Slyfox696 said:
Because I prefer facts instead of taking a position based upon team politics?

You've already all but admitted you will never call it a success. You did, I can quote you if you'd like. How does someone like that have any credibility then on objectively determining the success of the legislation? It's simple, you don't.
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Because I'm a businessman who understands Economics 101.

Ponzi schemes only work if you have willing payers at the base that have no immediate need of a return. That means young people. TONS of healthy young people, willingly paying for a service they're not likely to need for another 30-40 years or so.

It simply doesn't work mathematically, economically, or otherwise. Then, you factor in the governmental bureaucratic aspect of it, and a security-botched website that doesn't work, and this is what you get.

So far, you have people in immediate need of healthcare, people who had healthcare but lost it, and other enrollees who largely haven't paid. I suspect you also have a huge number of media people and others who've signed up just to see if it the website works, as well as a lot of DNC folks trying to bolster the numbers....

The whole think is a crock. And I believe in my core that you and everyone knows it.

CNN posted a story today that says they accomplished their goal. Does anyone really believe that BS? Perhaps, it's just an April Fool's joke.
 
Erod said:
APRIL FOOLS!!!

Seriously, is anyone dumb enough to believe this?
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Does anyone here really know what the ORIGINAL GOAL was? The law has been changed and the goal posts moved so many times that many people here have no concept as to what the real goal was. I always thought it was to get the uninsured insured, not taking insured people who lost their coverage to sign up for ACA or people eligible for Medicaid to sign up for Medicaid? What is wrong with you people that support Obama?
 
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