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[h=2]More than 6 million people have signed up for Obamacare, as a crush of people raced to get health insurance before the March 31 deadline.[/h]Administration officials announced the milestone Thursday amid an intense outreach drive. There were more than 1.5 million visits to HealthCare.gov and more than 430,000 calls to the call centers on Wednesday.

Obamacare tops 6 million signups - Mar. 27, 2014


Funny, no mention of this on Fox? Shocking I tell you. Shocking.
 
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I haven't been following this closely, but what exactly does a signup mean?

That some type of information was entered onto the website.
 
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Obamacare tops 6 million signups - Mar. 27, 2014


Funny, no mention of this on Fox? Shocking I tell you. Shocking.
Why is it shocking? Everyone knows Fox News is a Republican media outlet. I get you are being facetious, but it's rather silly on something like this.

Fox News will eventually post it once they figure out how to spin the 6 million number (difference between signups and paid enrollees, most likely).
 
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The idea was to have 7.5 million *PAYING* customers by Monday. Otherwise is couldn't pay for itself.
 
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But just how many people fully enroll in the program this year remains to be seen. The latest figures reflect those picking plans, not paying their premiums. Only those who pay their first month's premium are considered enrolled, while those who don't pay have their policy selections canceled.

Insurers have said that the share of people sending in payments is in the 80% range.

Also, the total number of enrollees nationwide is not that important a number, experts have said. What's more critical is whether enrollment meets each insurer's expectations since that's what will determine premiums for next year. Insurers are looking at both how many people pick their policies and how many claims they file.

Many experts are watching the share of young adults picking plans since they are considered healthier and less costly than older enrollees. Some 25% of those signing up are between ages 18 to 34, as of the end of February, the latest figures available. The White House and independent experts had forecast about 40% would be young adults.

If the percentage of enrollees paying their premiums increases above 35%, it will not be a good issue for Republicans.
 
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Assuming this is correct, which I'd bet my house it's a made-up number.....

How many of these people actually paid? How old are they?

This stat alone means nothing, especially if it pulled out of thin air.
 
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Assuming this is correct, which I'd bet my house it's a made-up number.....

How many of these people actually paid? How old are they?

This stat alone means nothing, especially if it pulled out of thin air.
Does it really matter to you? Let's say all of them have paid, would you call Obamacare a success?
 
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What happened to the 40 million people clamoring all over each other in need of healthcare?

Did we just change the entire system for $6 million people, most of which are old people that already had insurance but had to sign up for this to continue treatment they were receiving?
 
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I haven't been following this closely, but what exactly does a signup mean?

I too am curious. The article is pretty ambiguous about it.

White House Announces 6 Million Obamacare 'Sign-Ups,' But Number of Uninsured Enrollees Remains A Mystery - Forbes

This forbes article does a pretty good job explaining it. Essentially, you have to pay at least one month of premiums in order to be officially "enrolled" in health insurance. Sign ups are people who have signed up for insurance but haven't paid for it yet.
 
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Why is it shocking? Everyone knows Fox News is a Republican media outlet. I get you are being facetious, but it's rather silly on something like this.

Fox News will eventually post it once they figure out how to spin the 6 million number (difference between signups and paid enrollees, most likely).

Of course they will. And it will be buried.
 
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Does it really matter to you? Let's say all of them have paid, would you call Obamacare a success?

Not if it was old people in immediate need of treatment that had insurance to begin with, no.

If it consisted of young and/or healthy people that paid, then there'd be some promise in that number.
 
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Not if it was old people in immediate need of treatment that had insurance to begin with, no.

If it consisted of young and/or healthy people that paid, then there'd be some promise in that number.
But you wouldn't call it a success?
 
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What happened to the 40 million people clamoring all over each other in need of healthcare?

Did we just change the entire system for $6 million people, most of which are old people that already had insurance but had to sign up for this to continue treatment they were receiving?

Not true. Once you turn 65, you are eligible for Medicare, and no longer eligible for ACA.
 
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I too am curious. The article is pretty ambiguous about it.

White House Announces 6 Million Obamacare 'Sign-Ups,' But Number of Uninsured Enrollees Remains A Mystery - Forbes

This forbes article does a pretty good job explaining it. Essentially, you have to pay at least one month of premiums in order to be officially "enrolled" in health insurance. Sign ups are people who have signed up for insurance but haven't paid for it yet.

Ok, I think that makes sense. How many people have paid, thus far?
 
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The White House announced that 6 million people entered some kind of information on the websites. No mention of how many of them actually paid. No mention of the fact that we were constantly told that there were 48 million uninsured in 2012. No mention of how many of the 6 million were from the group of 5 million whose insurance was cancelled.

But to the left, this is exciting news?
 
re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

The White House announced that 6 million people entered some kind of information on the websites. No mention of how many of them actually paid. No mention of the fact that we were constantly told that there were 48 million uninsured in 2012. No mention of how many of the 6 million were from the group of 5 million whose insurance was cancelled.

But to the left, this is exciting news?

Yep, it's their version of "Mission Accomplished".
 
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Of course they will. And it will be buried.

No, they'll talk about it on their shows. And ask the same questions as others are asking. They don't carry the President's water blindly.
 
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Without creating a new century's worth of terrorists as Bush did, since you're using "Mission Accomplished".
How much extra money do you think Defense is spending due to Bush's big stupid mouth?
And how many more men/women died and are maimed for life?
Will they always have the insurance they need ?
Yep, it's their version of "Mission Accomplished".
 
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Yeah sure. There must be hundreds of sticky notes marking the pages in Joseph Goebbles play book in the West Wing by now.
 
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I too am curious. The article is pretty ambiguous about it.

White House Announces 6 Million Obamacare 'Sign-Ups,' But Number of Uninsured Enrollees Remains A Mystery - Forbes

This forbes article does a pretty good job explaining it. Essentially, you have to pay at least one month of premiums in order to be officially "enrolled" in health insurance. Sign ups are people who have signed up for insurance but haven't paid for it yet.
When it comes to stuff life this, Forbes is no better than Fox News. It's a business website owned and run by businesses. I don't expect such a website to say good things about Obamacare.
 
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Oh goodie--the Nazi card from a brand-new poster .
Yeah sure. There must be hundreds of sticky notes marking the pages in Joseph Goebbles play book in the West Wing by now.
 
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How much did your GOP impede this?
And where did the 7.5 number come from--first I've seen it ?
The idea was to have 7.5 million *PAYING* customers by Monday. Otherwise is couldn't pay for itself.
 
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Does it really matter to you? Let's say all of them have paid, would you call Obamacare a success?

No more than I would call any other clearly unconstitutional power grab by congress a success
 
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