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Thousands of Gallons of Crude Oil Spills in Ohio Nature Preserve

j-mac said:
Because "the General Welfare" it was clear was not concerning the individual, as in their day to day well being, food, housing, etc. But rather, the "Welfare of the country"..... And that was to provide a free place for people to succeed on their own free from government interference as they had in England at the time. General Welfare is a clause, or if you will a goal, and Common Defense is a tool within the power granted to achieve that goal.
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I am not sure why you believe that; our federal Congress is delegated the power to legislate, "in all Cases whatsoever", in the federal districts, including Individuals.
 
NIMBY said:
Leave it to conservatives to defend big oil spills, big oil spills quite numerous at the present time. This is a very conservative part of Ohio big oil has just trashed. We have several posters from there. Ask them how happy they are right now .
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:doh Dude. What part of "pipelines reduce oil spills" is too complex?
 
danielpalos said:
I am not sure why you believe that; our federal Congress is delegated the power to legislate, "in all Cases whatsoever", in the federal districts, including Individuals.
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Why yes they can....congratulations, you got something right. The problem with you only saying that, is just because they can 'legislate' doesn't mean that their legislation is 1. Constitutional, or 2. Proper. Now I for one think that because we have people in this country that don't understand the limits of our Federal Government, and choose to further that ignorance by promoting ideas that stray further, and further from the freedoms that our founders envisioned, and passed on to us through twisting their intent for their own warped view of 'a better way', and they have the power to actually vote equal to mine.
 
Do pipelines eliminate oil spills?
Will more oil be going through pipelines than was previously being trucked or railed?
Keep on frackin .
cpwill said:
:doh Dude. What part of "pipelines reduce oil spills" is too complex?
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NIMBY said:
Do pipelines eliminate oil spills?
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That is what I have been pointing out this entire time. By shifting oil transport from more risky to less risky means, pipelines reduce oil spills.

Will more oil be going through pipelines than was previously being trucked or railed?
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Hopefully, just as hopefully we will get less trucked / railed and more piped.

Keep on frackin .
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Go check out average wages for a high school graduate without a college degree in South Dakota right now.
 
Mr.Nick said:
You want to see something really scary?

Imagine a world where the Middle East major commodities are no longer needed and their economy collapses. It will be like Pearl Harbor X1000.
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The only way that could happen is if we stop using gasoline and diesel in our cars and trucks. Oil is priced on a world market and the middle east has a lot of oil. Are you ready to go 100% electric or natural gas in all our vehicles?
 
danielpalos said:
You need to catch up on the latest advances; all it requires now, is money.
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What you really mean is all it requires is public money. For my share, use it for more drilling. You can throw your money away on a BS environmental paradise if you want.
 
NIMBY said:
Leave it to conservatives to defend big oil spills, big oil spills quite numerous at the present time. This is a very conservative part of Ohio big oil has just trashed. We have several posters from there. Ask them how happy they are right now .
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From the report: Despite the leak, officials said that air and water quality tests in the surrounding area have all turned out well, and that local water supplies are not at risk. As RT reported previously, the oil had primarily collected in a marshland area the size of a football field

I'm sorry to hear that Ohio is now just a little bit bigger than a football field. I vacationed there in 2009; it seemed much larger to me at the time. :lamo
 
NIMBY said:
Have any of those jobs been created yet?
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Plenty of jobs. Didn't you see all those men cleaning up that spill! :lamo
 
danielpalos said:
I believe we need to advance fusion power, it could not only help our environment, but could also enable scale economies so vital to more developed political-economies.

Thousands of Gallons of Crude Oil Spills in Ohio Nature Preserve | Weather Underground
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You are I assume living in a tent somewhere, do not use electricity, dont drive, dont take public transportation, and are using a solar charged battery (all manufactured somehow without the use or benefit of fossil fuels)....right?
 
j-mac said:
Why yes they can....congratulations, you got something right. The problem with you only saying that, is just because they can 'legislate' doesn't mean that their legislation is 1. Constitutional, or 2. Proper. Now I for one think that because we have people in this country that don't understand the limits of our Federal Government, and choose to further that ignorance by promoting ideas that stray further, and further from the freedoms that our founders envisioned, and passed on to us through twisting their intent for their own warped view of 'a better way', and they have the power to actually vote equal to mine.
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I am not sure what you mean; they are only limited by the social Powers delegated;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings
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They could solve simple poverty in the federal districts by a simple voice vote.
 
Mr.Nick said:
You want to see something really scary?

Imagine a world where the Middle East major commodities are no longer needed and their economy collapses. It will be like Pearl Harbor X1000.
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My good Comrade, have you never heard of the Capitalist concept of diversification?
 
apdst said:
It's the government's obligation to encourage job creation in the private sector.
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No, it's not the govt's responsibility to encourage job creation in the private sector.

The proper role of govt. is to stay out of the private sector, and never make laws or enact policies that favor one industry/private entity over another. THE END.
 
Texmex said:
What you really mean is all it requires is public money. For my share, use it for more drilling. You can throw your money away on a BS environmental paradise if you want.
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Yes, the fossil fuel sector requires periodic bailouts with the (other) Peoples' money. Why not insist on a federal Standard that insurance must cover the costs.
 
VanceMack said:
You are I assume living in a tent somewhere, do not use electricity, dont drive, dont take public transportation, and are using a solar charged battery (all manufactured somehow without the use or benefit of fossil fuels)....right?
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I believe fusion can provide for the scale economies, so vital for more developed political-economies.
 
danielpalos said:
My good Comrade, have you never heard of the Capitalist concept of diversification?
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You ever hear that socialism fails and the only way to even make the model even remotely successful is to steal, cull and purge those you stole from?
 
danielpalos said:
Actually, i am referring to Capitalism's laziness whenever there is no profit motive.
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Without a profit motive, all your grand ideas will remain a file in some engineer's computer. A grand idea that goes nowhere.
 
danielpalos said:
Actually, i am referring to Capitalism's laziness whenever there is no profit motive.
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There would not be capitalism without motive for profit and there is not laziness in capitalism because laziness contradicts capitalism....
 
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