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Thousands of Gallons of Crude Oil Spills in Ohio Nature Preserve

danielpalos said:
Are you always so limited in your comprehension?

We only need an equivalent to a Manhattan Project to make it happen in eight years or less.
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Money can't make advancements happen all by itself. You spend money on something like this with the hope that you will see some sort of return for it, but that doesn't mean you will get it.
 
Henrin said:
Money can't make advancements happen all by itself. You spend money on something like this with the hope that you will see some sort of return for it, but that doesn't mean you will get it.
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All it took was money and time and a Manhattan Project to accomplish something similar in eight years or less.
 
American said:
Enbridge Northern Gateway Pipeline Gets Canada Approval - Bloomberg
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Yep. It's not a done deal yet but they're over the biggest hurdle. My guess is it's gonna be a 'go', and piss off a lot of people who kind of like being pissed off anyway.
The Trans Mountain pipeline, too. Kinder Morgan wants to triple their capacity to pipeline oil from Alberta to refineries near Vancouver and it's probably going to go ahead, too, if they can satisfy the city where it goes through residential neighbourhoods.
 

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danielpalos said:
Here it is for your ease and convenience:



We only need an equivalent to a Manhattan Project to make it happen in eight years or less.
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so you have no proof at all..........all you refer to is a fission nuclear............not a fusion nuclear reactor.
 
Why do those of the opposing view believe fusion is any more of a challenge than fission was, in a previous millennium, in modern times?
 
danielpalos said:
I am all for advancing fusion; why don't those of your point of view seem to want that?
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I'd love it...And when it is ready to be fully integrated then by all means do it. But in the mean time, we, as in the world is a petroleum based infrastructure, and instead of recognizing that, the anti oil people just want to cut off oil production to force their utopia on everyone without knowing if it will even work. That's foolish.
 
j-mac said:
I'd love it...And when it is ready to be fully integrated then by all means do it. But in the mean time, we, as in the world is a petroleum based infrastructure, and instead of recognizing that, the anti oil people just want to cut off oil production to force their utopia on everyone without knowing if it will even work. That's foolish.
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Is it more foolish to advance fission energy than to advance fusion energy?
 
If you're willing to spend the money there would be a much better return all around to do a Manhatten type project on solar panels. Get the efficiency up to 50-60% and fussion or fission are not at all necessary. Even better, attack the true weakness - energy storage. You might also want to look at fixing transmission (47% of the electricity we generate we lose in transmission).

There are far better places to start with a Manhatten type project than nuclear.
 
cpwill said:
If you want to reduce pollution from oil, then you need to start promoting Western development and pipeline transportation.
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one of the dumbest things I've ever seen: Iraq, all their oil refineries were built back in the 40s and 50s by the Brits. They don't have the capability to capture the methane that is produced so it is continually being burned off, pumping scads of CO2 into the atmosphere. then they turn around and import natural gas.
 
OscarB63 said:
one of the dumbest things I've ever seen: Iraq, all their oil refineries were built back in the 40s and 50s by the Brits. They don't have the capability to capture the methane that is produced so it is continually being burned off, pumping scads of CO2 into the atmosphere. then they turn around and import natural gas.
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Its' PROPANE that was burned off but your point still stands. We did the same thing here for 50 years
 
iguanaman said:
Its' PROPANE that was burned off but your point still stands. We did the same thing here for 50 years
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really? thanks for the correction. Our "terp" told us that it was methane.
 
danielpalos said:
All it takes is money for fusion. So, if we are going to use Socialism to bailout Capitalism, why not do it for a fuel with a future.
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1. using socialism to bail out capitalism is like using your golf cart to jump-start an 18 wheeler.

2. no, it does not just "take money" for fusion. It requires lots of innovation, testing, experimentation, processes, and new science for fusion to become a reality. It's like saying that all that is required to cure cancer is "money". Yeah, that and a whole bunch else, which who knows when it is going to show up.
 
cpwill said:
1. using socialism to bail out capitalism is like using your golf cart to jump-start an 18 wheeler.

2. no, it does not just "take money" for fusion. It requires lots of innovation, testing, experimentation, processes, and new science for fusion to become a reality. It's like saying that all that is required to cure cancer is "money". Yeah, that and a whole bunch else, which who knows when it is going to show up.
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hell, since all it takes is money, why not build a ****ing warp drive while we're at it? ;)
 
OscarB63 said:
hell, since all it takes is money, why not build a ****ing warp drive while we're at it? ;)
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And materializers that make any amount of food or drink! Tea Earl Grey Hot for everyone!!! :lol: All it takes is money!
 
cpwill said:
And materializers that make any amount of food or drink! Tea Earl Grey Hot for everyone!!! :lol: All it takes is money!
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make it so......
 
OscarB63 said:
make it so......
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Heck, while we're at it, let's fund the research on how to become that Q species. Then we don't even need to produce energy. All it takes is money ;).
 
cpwill said:
All great points. Myself, I think having unicorns run on wheels made out of solid rainbows is looking pretty promising, too. We could even breed super-small unicorns to power your home kitchen appliances.
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I'm telling ya man, it's the way of the FUTUR!
 
iguanaman said:
Let the Canadians spill their oil for China on their own soil. Why won't they allow a pipeline to their West Coast? Because they are not greedy fools like some here.
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Read up on it. They want to sell refined products for greater profits, so want to pipeline it to refineries. Environmentalists have blocked any new refineries built for decades - although environmentalists love their plastic products and petrol fuels as much as anyone else. It is environmentalist who are responsible for most oil spills.
 
danielpalos said:
Are you always so limited in your comprehension?

We only need an equivalent to a Manhattan Project to make it happen in eight years or less.
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Please turn off your electricity and stop using gasoline or diesel, grow your own food and buy no products that are plastic or trucked - and wait for fusion.

Rather than fusion, we should build warp drive engines to generate electicity. Those put out huge amounts of horsepower by generating anti-matter. With that, we could build a warp-drive space ship of massive proportions and begin populating other planets. They are easily built too as is finding planets ready for human life.

Einstein proved that anything anyone can imagine exists. It is only a question of money. Money should be added to the elemental chart as it the key to understanding the universe. The universe was not created nor did it evolve, it was bought.

All it takes is money. If you have money, anything you can imagine exists :2razz:
 
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OscarB63 said:
one of the dumbest things I've ever seen: Iraq, all their oil refineries were built back in the 40s and 50s by the Brits. They don't have the capability to capture the methane that is produced so it is continually being burned off, pumping scads of CO2 into the atmosphere. then they turn around and import natural gas.
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That happens in the USA too. Humans account for 3% of CO2 production.
 
It is always annoying when people response to reality - to real current issues and problems with some fantasy alternative in the unknown distant future as the way to avoid addressing actual real existing issues.
 
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