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Fred Phelps Dead

The "Church" is just a few of his family members. Personally, I would love to see the look on Fred Phelps face right now as he has to answer to God.

Me too.

Imagine.......Fred, at The Pearly Gates, St. Peter hands him a tube of Astroglide, winks at him and says, "Step this way Freddy. God has something REALLY special for you."
 
Hallelujia!

There is a special place in hell reserved for this man. The world is a better place today.

Fred Phelps Dead: Westboro Baptist Church Founder Dies At 84

I never want to rejoice at anyone's death but this guy gave Christianity a bad name. Jesus said (indirectly) about have the church would be made up of counterfeits but most people, especially non-believers are not aware of this and think everybody saying they're a Christian is one. I'm not God so I can't say Phelps isn't a Christian but I would have my doubts if I ever needed to offer an opinion. I good number of "Christians" are simply church members or those who've embraced church culture, which is sometimes pretty unsettling by itself. You can be "religious" and not be a true Christian and you can not be religious and a true believer. Being a Christian isn't about joining a church or complying with church culture. Its about recognizing you're in a boatload of trouble unless God forgives you, recognizing the only way that forgiveness can be legally discharged is to have Jesus' serve as your substitute in punishment, believing he died in your place and was raised from the dead and he gets to own you afterwards, which is really does already anyway.
 
Rest in peace Fred.

With your over the top hatred of gays you actually did more for the movement than most of its proponents.

I will not come down to your level and be jeer at your passing.

I often wondered whether they were just trolling or were pulling off a hoax.

Lest any homophobes think they are better than Phelps, you might not be as publicly rude, but at least he had the courage to be up front about his beliefs and accept the consequences.

It was sad that so many people were willing to compromise the first amendment to try to shut him up. The first amendment means nothing if it doesn't apply to everyone.
 
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Phelp's dead, huh? Well, that's a shame. How will the haters keep their hating spirits up?
 
I find it interesting that people remember him for picketing gay funerals. But most, if not all were soldiers. Don't hold me to that, but I think they were. I believe that is why he managed to rile people on both sides of the political divide.

There is one thing I would like to add here, and this is verifiable. These antics he and his little group pulled were the advertising for their very successful law firm. Those funerals brought in a LOT of business for them. And he even won the OK from the SCOTUS, with the only limitation being the distance from the proceedings they had to stay. His actions were not about gays, they were not about soldiers, they were about money. Constitutional law cases aren't that easy to come by for a lawyer, but they are most coveted because the damages are treble damages in a constitutional case. That means the lawyer's pay is treble pay. Plaintiff cases are usually taken on contingency, so if the suit is not won, the plaintiff pays nothing, but if the plaintiff prevails then the lawyer gets 1/3 of the award. Because of this advertising, and it WAS advertising, Phelps' firm got a lot of constitutional cases and the treble damages. This is verifiable.

I think, rational people need to put away the emotion that this man's name evokes. There are others who have made money from exploiting certain classes of people, and he is just one of the pack. He knew how to advertise. Beyond that his relationship with God is his own business, and not mine. Personally, I would be more pissed if I ran into my MIL in heaven than if I ran into Phelps. He never did anything to me, and the MIL set out to make my life hell.
 
breaking these out for a 'special' occasion:

fred sold his own brand of evil junk
 
He did cause me to rethink a few of my beliefs.

Imagine this........

A baptist church, in a small town in Texas, decides that the Westboro bunch are giving Baptists a bad name. So, to rebuke them, and show the world they are not like them, they make up signs that say, "God loves fags!"
 
That's adorable. How did you feel when you heard Bin Laden got a lead salad?

It was sad. We could have verified capture, and perhaps even picked up some intelligence by keeping him alive. But instead we engaged in our ape half and killed. Kill kill kill, destroy destroy destroy. Seems to be all we're capable of these days.
 
There are not many who I would cheer...in fact very few. This man, however, was a despicable human being. The world is a better place today.

You know what? In reality to first order, it's pretty much exactly the same. What, did Phelp's death end our imperial wars in the ME? Fix our economy? Create better public relations between the US and other countries? Reduce the wealth gap? Control police aggression against the People?

No, it did none of that. The world is not a better place today, the world is the same as it was yesterday. So all we have is cheering the death of a human, how Republocrat of you.
 
I find it interesting that people remember him for picketing gay funerals. But most, if not all were soldiers. Don't hold me to that, but I think they were. I believe that is why he managed to rile people on both sides of the political divide.

Actually, the only "gay funeral" I am aware of that he protested was that of Matthew Sheppard.

He would protest anywhere he thought he could get attention. And he would celebrate each death, claiming it was proof of God's hatred of gays.

No matter who's funeral it was.

This guy and his followers are legitimately looney-tunes bat-**** crazy.
 
Is this the guy who said all gays should be rounded up and put in one place so they could not reproduce and thus die out?
 
It was sad. We could have verified capture, and perhaps even picked up some intelligence by keeping him alive. But instead we engaged in our ape half and killed. Kill kill kill, destroy destroy destroy. Seems to be all we're capable of these days.

If by "these days" you mean "since the dawn of life on this planet"
 
All human life holds fundamental value.

That depends upon the human.

I would not consider Mother Theresa and Phelps to be equal just because they are 'humans'.
 
It was sad. We could have verified capture, and perhaps even picked up some intelligence by keeping him alive.

Yeah, I'm sure you have a better grasp on what was possible at the time than the team of Seals who rehearsed the raid countless times and were aware of the time and logistical restraints.


But instead we engaged in our ape half and killed. Kill kill kill, destroy destroy destroy. Seems to be all we're capable of these days.

What a truly delicate and special snowflake. Maybe the Military should mandate some anime time to tame that oh-so inhumane tendency of soldiers to shoot things.
 
That depends upon the human.

I would not consider Mother Theresa and Phelps to be equal just because they are 'humans'.

He didn't use the word "equal" in his post.
 
Imagine this........

A baptist church, in a small town in Texas, decides that the Westboro bunch are giving Baptists a bad name. So, to rebuke them, and show the world they are not like them, they make up signs that say, "God loves fags!"

God bless em!
 
Rest in peace Fred.

With your over the top hatred of gays you actually did more for the movement than most of its proponents.

I will not come down to your level and be jeer at your passing.

He is to the gay rights movement as Bull Connor was to the Civil Rights movement.
 
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