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US, Russia exchange threats at tense UN meeting

MildSteel said:
The RSO is not on the level of the Assistant Secretary of State, so no, it's not the same. It's not as significant.
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Does the Assistant Secretary of State have to be named Nuland, too? What kind of cookies do they have to be?
 
MildSteel said:
What I said was clear. The Koch brothers are helping to bankroll the Tea Party. Rand Paul is backed by the Tea Party, Rand Paul led the effort to shut down the government to attempt to thwart the ACA. It's simple to understand.
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Well I happen to be Tea Party and my chapter of libertarians all happen to support the tea party principals and none of us have seen a ****ing dime out of the Koch brothers. As a matter of fact we fund ourselves.

Now progressives on the other hand get a free bus ride to the voting booth, a free bag lunch, t-shirt and a pack of smokes and another if they vote twice.

Don't confuse your **** with my ****.
 
Mr.Nick said:
I thought Jesus didn't need any of that **** - at least according to atheist progressives.
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If you want to get into a discussion on religion, we can do that. But I don't think you will like it.

Mr.Nick said:
Really tho? if he is as "normal" as you claim then what sets anyone apart from being president? the food they eat, who they fight, who they screw?

If that is the case then Obama is up there with some quality nutjobs.
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I'm not here to put up a defense of Obama. I have an impression of him, and it's not that great. However, I think that some, you included, over exaggerate his faults, simply for political purposes. Honestly, I don't want to take part in that gross pissing contest. It's bad enough that I have said what I said.
 
MildSteel said:
If you want to get into a discussion on religion, we can do that. But I don't think you will like it.



I'm not here to put up a defense of Obama. I have an impression of him, and it's not that great. However, I think that some, you included, over exaggerate his faults, simply for political purposes. Honestly, I don't want to take part in that gross pissing contest. It's bad enough that I have said what I said.
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So you're not defending Obama but you're just defending Obama??? nice

You want to get into a religion/theology conversation with me? -- no you won't like it.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Well I happen to be Tea Party and my chapter of libertarians all happen to support the tea party principals and none of us have seen a ****ing dime out of the Koch brothers. As a matter of fact we fund ourselves.

Now progressives on the other hand get a free bus ride to the voting booth, a free bag lunch, t-shirt and a pack of smokes and another if they vote twice.

Don't confuse your **** with my ****.
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I not here to advocate for progressives. I'm not here to advocate for the Tea Party. I'm here to advocate for the truth and I don't want to see the world drift towards another world war.
 
MildSteel said:
I not here to advocate for progressives. I'm not here to advocate for the Tea Party. I'm here to advocate for the truth and I don't want to see the world drift towards another world war.
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THE TRUTH - YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!. lol

Seriously... You're just making excuses and apologizing as you go along while just making **** up.
 
Mr.Nick said:
THE TRUTH - YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!. lol

Seriously... You're just making excuses and apologizing as you go along while just making **** up.
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Whatever makes you happy.
 
Mr.Nick said:
What's your boggle with religion? and what specific religion? wait don't tell me - Christianity right?
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You brought up Jesus. So start wherever you want.
 
MildSteel said:
If that is a fact, you better start with that statement. Facts don't need to be corrected.



I don't dispute that.
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Hey, you were the one who wanted to debate religion.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Hey, you were the one who wanted to debate religion.
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I'm down with it. I don't dispute the statement you made. What's the problem?
 
MildSteel said:
Ok

What do you want me to do? Support a position that's not true?
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You don't know the difference between fact and fiction.

You may not want to agree with a position but that doesn't mean it's not true.

If you want to be an intelligent person then don't question me - go look it up. Until then you will always follow what you want to believe rather than what is fact.

What I want you to do is drop the partisan agenda....
 
MildSteel said:
Well Russian stocks were down and at the very least it's going to be harder for Bank Rossiya to borrow money as US banks can't lend to them. Also definitely Visa and Mastercard have stopped providing services for clients of Bank Rossiya. That must be awkward.

If shipments of Russian energy are stopped for Europe, it will definitely hurt Russia, no doubt. But it will also hurt not only Europe, but the global economy as well. Recall that Europe is in bad shape economically now. Germany is basically keeping Europe afloat. However, Germany depends on Russia for 36 percent of their natural gas. If that stops, German exports will become too expensive and the German economy will come down bringing Europe and the rest of the world with it.
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I doubt Russia is worried about borrowing from US banks as China is a creditor, and the second part of your post shows exactly how so called sanctions will not work. Clearly if the best option isn't an option.
 
Mr.Nick said:
You don't know the difference between fact and fiction.

You may not want to agree with a position but that doesn't mean it's not true.

If you want to be an intelligent person then don't question me - go look it up. Until then you will always follow what you want to believe rather than what is fact.

What I want you to do is drop the partisan agenda....
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So you are saying it's not a fact?
 
Fearandloathing said:
I doubt Russia is worried about borrowing from US banks as China is a creditor, and the second part of your post shows exactly how so called sanctions will not work. Clearly if the best option isn't an option.
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It's not an insurmountable problem, but it's a problem. Not only that but Russia was threatened with having their credit rating degraded. My point is that the sanctions did have an effect. Not bone crushing by any stretch, but an effect nonetheless. Finance is based on value, Value is a function of perception. Negative perception is not good for value. Even the Russian finance minister admits this.

Having said that, I agree, bone crushing sanctions are not a good idea at this point.
 
MildSteel said:
It's not an insurmountable problem, but it's a problem. Not only that but Russia was threatened with having their credit rating degraded. My point is that the sanctions did have an effect. Not bone crushing by any stretch, but an effect nonetheless. Finance is based on value, Value is a function of perception. Negative perception is not good for value. Even the Russian finance minister admits this.

Having said that, I agree, bone crushing sanctions are not a good idea at this point.
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Sanctions would negatively impact citizens of both nations in the long run.
 
NIMBY said:
Bone-crushing sanctions are all that soviets understand .
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They are no longer the soviet union, times have changed.
 
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