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Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group[W:157]

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US Conservative said:
Yeah, Bush going into Asia, and employing our intelligence resources there had nothing to do with it. :roll:

And sorry, but AQ is on the rise yet again, and in fact flies its flag over several cities it did not under Bush.

Your failed attempt at revisionism is pathetic.
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Yep bush never had any intelligence. If he did he would have caught bin laden. But he didnt. And what about the fact that bush ruled out invading pakistan. Of course you are a partisan hack and facts dont matter to you.
 
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99percenter said:
Yep bush never had any intelligence. If he did he would have caught bin laden. But he didnt. And what about the fact that bush ruled out invading pakistan. Of course you are a partisan hack and facts dont matter to you.
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As I already said (perhaps you need it repeated), it took years of intelligence both domestic and overseas that led to the capture of OBL. I dont think invading Pakistan was or is a good idea, and apparently neither does Obama.

Death of Osama bin Laden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Search for Osama bin Laden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So you see, its you who is the senseless hack. You have been educated, and there is no more excuse for your ignorance.
 
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99percenter said:
Yep bush never had any intelligence. If he did he would have caught bin laden. But he didnt. And what about the fact that bush ruled out invading pakistan. Of course you are a partisan hack and facts dont matter to you.
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Obama has shown his appreciation for the Doctor who actually led the Special Forces to bin Laden's hideout by having him rot in a Pakistani jail cell. I doubt George Bush would have demonstrated this sort of cowardice.

Brave doctor helped CIA track down Bin Laden is on hunger strike in Pakistani prison | Mail Online
 
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US Conservative said:
As I already said (perhaps you need it repeated), it took years of intelligence both domestic and overseas that led to the capture of OBL. I dont think invading Pakistan was or is a good idea, and apparently neither does Obama.

Death of Osama bin Laden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Search for Osama bin Laden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So you see, its you who is the senseless hack. You have been educated, and there is no more excuse for your ignorance.
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A little bit of advice. If you want to be taken seriously, don't look at Wikipedia as a source.
 
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US Conservative said:
Thats a very specific claim. They claim to have pictures, I would not be surprised if they do. Then what do you say?
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What's the conflict. Was Obama controlling the drone. What could Obama say or do that would pull your skirt back down?
 
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99percenter said:
Yep bush never had any intelligence. If he did he would have caught bin laden. But he didnt. And what about the fact that bush ruled out invading pakistan. Of course you are a partisan hack and facts dont matter to you.
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You do understand the bin Laden capture was based on intelligence that began during Bush's term, right?

And now your dear leader has decided we need to reduce military spending and troop numbers. How perfectly convenient for the enemy that is.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
You're right, it is more than the loss of the drone. It's also an opportunity to compare Obama with Neville Chamberlain.
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No comparison, Chamberlain had more balls.
 
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99percenter said:
Yep bush never had any intelligence. If he did he would have caught bin laden. But he didnt. And what about the fact that bush ruled out invading pakistan. Of course you are a partisan hack and facts dont matter to you.
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How would Bush's IQ have anything at all to do with finding Bin Laden? It would be the intelligence network that would do that. And you call others partisan hacks?
 
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Wiseone said:
pics or it didn't happen

How does it feel to swallow up Russian propaganda without giving it a second thought? Is there a slight gag reflex or goes it go down smooth?
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Not to mention that model is really, really, dated. This smells funny and only a partisan fool would believe the Russians on face value.
 
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US Conservative said:
You didn't read the very brief initial post. They have it, its not broken apart. Just like Iran.

Our weak president will probably apologize.
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You're a good example of folks that believe what they want to believe they are so partisan.

And I suppose you believe Bush did a better job when Georgia was forcefully invaded.

News Flash: There were no sanctions over Georgia when Bush was president. Several countries threatened Russia with sanctions but none delivered. Bush and Cheney didn't do squat except run their mouths.

Conversely with our present president, in the case of the Ukraine, the U.S did not waste time with sanctions. Obama signed an executive order only a few days after his first warning. Sanctions are going forward! And they will hurt Russia and Russian's stock market is already fearing the future. The Crimea is history for Ukraine but at least Putin may think twice about invading the rest of the Ukraine.
 
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fmw said:
How would Bush's IQ have anything at all to do with finding Bin Laden? It would be the intelligence network that would do that. And you call others partisan hacks?
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If he had been smarter he wouldn't have made the dumb statement he didn't care if Bin Laden was found or not. If I had been an operative at the time, risking my neck to find Bin Laden, I would have thought, **** it the president doesn't even care.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
Then why are they using Chamberlain as a comparison? Why not Bush?
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Why'd you use Kennedy....A president responsible for getting us involved in a losing war that cost 58,000 lives, based on a lie?
 
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US Conservative said:
So whats the chump in chief going to do now? Nothing, thats what.
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Why would we do anything about it?

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Grant said:
Obama has shown his appreciation for the Doctor who actually led the Special Forces to bin Laden's hideout by having him rot in a Pakistani jail cell. I doubt George Bush would have demonstrated this sort of cowardice.

Brave doctor helped CIA track down Bin Laden is on hunger strike in Pakistani prison | Mail Online
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Bin Ladin wasn't killed. Every possible way to confirm he had been killed in the raid was promptly destroyed.
 
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joko104 said:
Bin Ladin wasn't killed. Every possible way to confirm he had been killed in the raid was promptly destroyed.
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we did want any of his remians to become a shrine for his martyrdom.
 
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Can we not derail this thread with an irrelevant conspiracy theory?
 
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j-mac said:
Why'd you use Kennedy....A president responsible for getting us involved in a losing war that cost 58,000 lives, based on a lie?
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That would be Johnson, not Kennedy. They shot Kennedy before he could make the decision to go to war or not go to war. He most likely would not have gone to war, already having proven his "balls" in the Cuban missile crisis.

Which brings up the question of how many wars have been fought to prove one leader or the other had balls, but then, that's another issue.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
That would be Johnson, not Kennedy. They shot Kennedy before he could make the decision to go to war or not go to war. He most likely would not have gone to war, already having proven his "balls" in the Cuban missile crisis.

Which brings up the question of how many wars have been fought to prove one leader or the other had balls, but then, that's another issue.
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Re writing history Ditto?

"In 1961, Kennedy agreed that America should finance an increase in the size of the South Vietnamese Army from 150,000 to 170,000. He also agreed that an extra 1000 US military advisors should be sent to South Vietnam to help train the South Vietnamese Army. Both of these decisions were not made public as they broke the agreements made at the 1954 Geneva Agreement."

John F Kennedy and Vietnam
 
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Dittohead not! said:
That would be Johnson, not Kennedy. They shot Kennedy before he could make the decision to go to war or not go to war. He most likely would not have gone to war, already having proven his "balls" in the Cuban missile crisis.

Which brings up the question of how many wars have been fought to prove one leader or the other had balls, but then, that's another issue.
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Thousands of years of brutality all comes down to making sure the other guy knows you have genitals.
 
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j-mac said:
Re writing history Ditto?

"In 1961, Kennedy agreed that America should finance an increase in the size of the South Vietnamese Army from 150,000 to 170,000. He also agreed that an extra 1000 US military advisors should be sent to South Vietnam to help train the South Vietnamese Army. Both of these decisions were not made public as they broke the agreements made at the 1954 Geneva Agreement."

John F Kennedy and Vietnam
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There's a big difference between 1,000 "military advisers" and a half a million US soldiers.
 
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US Conservative said:
Except he's not running inside, and he just broke your windshield with a rock.
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The thing with little gimps, the're dumb...they let their gaurd down. I catch him when he thinks I forgot, and knock the stuffing out of him.
 
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EnigmaO01 said:
If he had been smarter he wouldn't have made the dumb statement he didn't care if Bin Laden was found or not. If I had been an operative at the time, risking my neck to find Bin Laden, I would have thought, **** it the president doesn't even care.
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Thanks but that wasn't the question.
 
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joko104 said:
Bin Ladin wasn't killed. Every possible way to confirm he had been killed in the raid was promptly destroyed.
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Perhaps, but the Doctor who helped the US still rots in a Pakistani jail.
 
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