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Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

humbolt said:
My people are English, and none, absolutely none of the stereotypes are true. The truth is actually much worse.
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Tiocfaidh ar la, sing, "Up the RA!"
SAM missiles in the sky!
 
humbolt said:
Good day to you. Cold up there, huh? Don't feel bad. It's snowing here. It was in the mid 60's on Saturday. March....
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Snow in SW Virginia? :wow: We had some rain/snow Saturday, but it's gone now and there are no alerts for the next few days. It is cold, though, but sunny today. March...
 
Grand Mal said:
I think St. Patrick's Day was politicized when the first Protestant/Orange group decided to participate in a Catholic celebration.
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Yeah, well but that was different. :mrgreen:
 
Weird! I didnt see in the article who sponsored the parade? It read like the city of New York didnt, which I think is also weird. When I was a park ranger in Central Park, we ALL had to work that parade and so did tons of NYPD...OT and all...that is a huge expenditure that a private org or sponsor would need to pay for.

And of course, the city would not (and apparently did not) exclude gays.

Well I'm glad the beer makers pulled out...and disappointed in general. I'm more curious about who is sponsoring the parade? I guess if the Catholic Church is involved in a big way, they have deep pockets.
 
I, like many others, thought that StPdP was just a bunch of people marching in honor and fun of St Patrick's day...are learning the reality of this parade.

I think as more people figure out what this "parade" is all about, it will lose favor. If parade organizers keep the same track, StPdP will be just another old ritual old folk do.

Who here goes to a Columbus Day Parade?

Here is the marchers at MLK's day in my area.
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Kal'Stang said:
Depends. Were other types of signs from other groups banned also? Or just LGBT groups? If all types of signs were banned then I don't think it was the right thing to do. If only LGBT signs were banned then yeah, it was the right thing to do.

I could understand those cities or parade officials only wanting signs that have to do with St Patricks day being displayed and nothing political being displayed. But if they only banned one while allowing the rest then that would be wrong.
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Sam Adams is crap beer anyway....for people that think it's high end quality and dont know any better :mrgreen:
 
austrianecon said:
AOH (Ancient Order of Hibernians) organizes NYC's parade and let's just say.. you are better off pissing into the wind as they follow Church policy.
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I guess they pretend to be more Catholic than the Pope. Perhaps they should listen to his words occasionally. "If someone is gay and seeks the Lord with good will, who am I to judge?"
 
Summerwind said:
No it's not a privately run parade, it's a city parade. If I'm wrong please tell me the private agency that organized it.
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THat's what I think, at least for NYC, so if the beer makers ever thought that gays could be banned, they were nuts. (not that that was their expectation).
 
rocket88 said:
I'd hardly call St. Patrick's Day a catholic holiday. Not in the last 50 years at least. It's more of a drinking holiday.
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Agreed, and it's really anti-snake which I AM NOT down with. Totally wrong.

So I drink to forget...to forget the poor snakes....oh the snakes, think of the snakes!!!


St. Patrick committed herpicide.
 
Lursa said:
Sam Adams is crap beer anyway....for people that think it's high end quality and dont know any better :mrgreen:
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It was good enough for the parade organizers, but they proved that they "dont know any better".
 
vesper said:
This isn't about restricting people because of sexual orientation. It is about restricting activism. Gays can be part of the parade, their activist banners for LGBT or GLENN can not. The same rules in the past toward pro-life and pro-choice groups have been upheld. Everyone is welcome as long as you are willing to go along with the rules.
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If there are Irish LGBT groups, they can carry (or should be able to) just like every other Irish group that marches?

Have you ever been to either of those parades? I knew the NYC one well. There are a million Irish dance and musical/band and police groups, locally sponsored community service groups, church groups, for example, in each of the boroughs....loads of them and they all march behind banners with their organization's name on it. Why should a LGBT organization not be able to have their banner? It's no more political than the others.
 
1750Texan said:
It was good enough for the parade organizers, but they proved that they "dont know any better".
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It's mass-produced swill. Hey look at NASCAR and Bud....big bucks....has nothing to do with quality.
 
vesper said:
Yeah there are banners for schools etc. not banners for activist groups. Big difference. What part of "NO Activism" don't you understand?
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I missed where the gay groups are activist groups. Is the Irish Police Benevolent society activist? How about the Black Irish group? (I remember at least one!). The Protestant Irish group of Staten Island...activist? How about a gay Irish Catholic group who had to form their own org because the local Catholic church wouldnt let them? Activist? Or the exact same as the other Irish Catholic group except that they were excluded?
 
Lursa said:
It's mass-produced swill. Hey look at NASCAR and Bud....big bucks....has nothing to do with quality.
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Im old school...drinking before micro and craft beers. If you wanted a beer, you bought what they had at the 7-11 and you liked it.
 
Now, if it had been Bud that might have been a statement. As it is Sam Adams and Heinken will now be known as the "gay beers". Not sure that's going to help their sales at all.
 
clownboy said:
Now, if it had been Bud that might have been a statement. As it is Sam Adams and Heinken will now be known as the "gay beers". Not sure that's going to help their sales at all.
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i've always wondered about Coors light...
 
clownboy said:
Now, if it had been Bud that might have been a statement. As it is Sam Adams and Heinken will now be known as the "gay beers". Not sure that's going to help their sales at all.
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I thought gay beers were the one's that had fruity flavors added...
 
Lursa said:
If there are Irish LGBT groups, they can carry (or should be able to) just like every other Irish group that marches?

Have you ever been to either of those parades? I knew the NYC one well. There are a million Irish dance and musical/band and police groups, locally sponsored community service groups, church groups, for example, in each of the boroughs....loads of them and they all march behind banners with their organization's name on it. Why should a LGBT organization not be able to have their banner? It's no more political than the others.
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I think denying the banner was the committee's biggest mistake mistake. Should have allowed a single banner which had to have prior approval. From what I gather, the committee didn't want activism in the parade which is pretty consistent standard amongst the various groups marching.

Probably worked out anyway. Saved the marchers from the abuse that would come with marching that route.
 
Its so very sad that gays are turning the Saint Patrick's parade into a political event. They can stick their LBGT flags where the sun don't shine.
 
MaggieD said:
I don't have much to say about it, really. Let them ban openly gay people. Who cares? And let people drop out who are offended by it, and I'll celebrate them. Seems like that's the American Way. Just publicize who's doing what and let public opinion sort it out.
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Let the gays have their own parade and they can fly all the flags they like.
 
Fishstyx said:
This will likely be the last year its an issue. I'd wager all the cities start denying the parade permits if they're not all inclusive. Another one of those issues where a compromise is definitely out there but both sides are just too dug in.
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But they never said they weren't including homosexuals. They just said no flags and banners.

I see this as eventually causing a backlash. I see this as a reason that may cause more Catholic democrats to start voting Republican.
 
Navy Pride said:
Its so very sad that gays are turning the Saint Patrick's parade into a political event. They can stick their LBGT flags where the sun don't shine.
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Do you have such disdain for all veterans or just the gay ones NP? Did gay veterans somehow serve this great country less than the straight ones did?
 
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