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Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

What? It is a St. Patrick's Day parade still, no? Still don't see why anyone would expect a banner about their sexuality would be acceptable at a St. Patrick's Day parade. Don't they already have parades with that type of subject matter? Seems to me that their is some other motive involved here, since it is a Catholic Saint involved.

My point is that this wasn't some random group of gay folks who were trying to party crash. They too had served their country.
 
And again, it goes back to the point of them ( The LGBT Activists ) being told they COULD participate.....but then they just had to be different than everybody else. That's what caused Sam Adams and others to pull out.

To validate.....the bar patronized by the LGBT put it up on faceplate/facebook that they would not serve Sam Adams if they participated.


Sam Adams made the announcement after coming under pressure from Club Cafe, a Boston bar patronized by the gay community. The bar threatened in a Facebook post on Thursday to stop pouring Sam Adams unless the company withdrew sponsorship......snip~

One can see what threats like that, could do to their business with how things go viral over the Net.....huh?


You can't quote someone as saying something they didn't say. That's lying about what they said.

I don't know why I'm bothering. I'll let you get back to fussing about the big bad gays ruining everything for everyone else.
 
I say AWESOME for the beer companies, thats thier right


as far as the parade id have to know EXACTLY what the verbiage is about the rules

from my understanding it seems that the banner that was banned was a banner that would just identify a gay veterans group, if that was it then IMO banning the sign is absolutely wrong.

If its something else, well that would have to be presented to me and my decision might be different.
 
And again, it goes back to the point of them ( The LGBT Activists ) being told they COULD participate.....but then they just had to be different than everybody else. That's what caused Sam Adams and others to pull out.

To validate.....the bar patronized by the LGBT put it up on faceplate/facebook that they would not serve Sam Adams if they participated.


Sam Adams made the announcement after coming under pressure from Club Cafe, a Boston bar patronized by the gay community. The bar threatened in a Facebook post on Thursday to stop pouring Sam Adams unless the company withdrew sponsorship......snip~

One can see what threats like that, could do to their business with how things go viral over the Net.....huh?

Wanna see a bigger joke? That same Club Cafe was the only gay bar in South Boston to serve Russian vodka after the anti-gay laws were put into effect.
 
You can't quote someone as saying something they didn't say. That's lying about what they said.

I don't know why I'm bothering. I'll let you get back to fussing about the big bad gays ruining everything for everyone else.

Whatever, bottomline if you can't see what they are saying. Then that's on you. Then of course their actions show it.....for the reality that it is.
 
I say AWESOME for the beer companies, thats thier right


as far as the parade id have to know EXACTLY what the verbiage is about the rules

from my understanding it seems that the banner that was banned was a banner that would just identify a gay veterans group, if that was it then IMO banning the sign is absolutely wrong.

If its something else, well that would have to be presented to me and my decision might be different.


Heya AJ. :2wave: The Verbage was for No political activism.....by ANY!

Sam Adams pulled out of Boston's parade, which takes place on Sunday, and Heineken yanked its support of the New York City parade, slated for Monday. Both parades are allowing gay groups to march but are banning signage about sexual orientation.....snip~
 
Heya AJ. :2wave: The Verbage was for No political activism.....by ANY!

Sam Adams pulled out of Boston's parade, which takes place on Sunday, and Heineken yanked its support of the New York City parade, slated for Monday. Both parades are allowing gay groups to march but are banning signage about sexual orientation.....snip~

Hey MMC

so do you have any evidence of "activism" or am i mistaken about what i read in a different article?

Educate me please with the info you may know . . .

From my understanding its a Gay Veterans group, a sign saying that isnt activism in anyway or did they request approval for some other types of signs?
 
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Hey MMC

so do you have any evidence of "activism" or am i mistaken about what i read in a different article?

Educate me please with the info you may know . . .

From my understanding its a Gay Veterans group, a sign saying that isnt activism in anyway or did they request approval for some other types of signs?



There are no gun activists, abortion activists, immigrations activist. For or against to be in the parades.


In February, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio announced that he would not be marching in this year's parade in support of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community. Boston Mayor Martin Walsh has vowed not to attend the parade unless LGBT groups are allowed to march openly.

They were told they could march..... but no signage.
 
I wonder if groups participating in the parade will be carrying banners identifying units or hometowns or any other such things.

I've been looking for a copy of the parade rules, but the South Boston parade's site is broken in places and the New York parade's site is just plain broken.
 
I wonder if groups participating in the parade will be carrying banners identifying units or hometowns or any other such things.

I've been looking for a copy of the parade rules, but the South Boston parade's site is broken in places and the New York parade's site is just plain broken.

The High School Marching Bands will have their Names of their High School on their Banners. Guess that would denote where they come from and what neighborhoods.
 
What are your thoughts upon the matter?

I'm thirsty and want a beer.

In seriousness, this is how things are supposed to work in a republic (as opposed to an authoritarian government). Solutions are less imposed by law and more emergent from community. Leadership and change are as much the result of civilian participation as political mandate.
 
So only the Irish march? No signs denoting the various other groups who march? I reckon as long as the marchers are dressed somewhat 'conventionally' and not simulating same sex, well or any sex acts I guess- it ain't a 'gay pride' parade. ;)

Just out of curiosity, if a military unit wanted to march with full honors would you say the Military has plenty of other days, Armed Forces Day, 4th of July, etc- so it's a St. Patrick's parade and if they want to march they should be in civilian clothes with nothing to denote who they are and what they stand for?

Anyone else throwing their political agenda in everyone's face?
 
Two major beer manufacturers on Friday dropped sponsorship of St. Patrick's Day parades in New York City and Boston to protest bans on gays marching openly.
Well good. Why should families and children - anyone for that matter be subjected to gays pushing outlandish behavior in public.

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DeBlasio and "Panti Bliss"


Should these children be subjected to that? I say no.

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What part of "both sides" did you fail to understand?

What really gets me is that, with respect to Boston, this isn't just a group of random gay folks who want to march for the sake of marching. If they were I'd still be fine with it, but this is a group of gay veterans who want to identify themselves as gay while marching in a parade organized by a veteran's group.

Why is the fact that they are gay important enough to amrch with banners about it? What are they trying to accomplish with that?
 
The Eagle has landed!!! lol
 
The High School Marching Bands will have their Names of their High School on their Banners. Guess that would denote where they come from and what neighborhoods.

I see no difference between a tasteful banner identifying the origin of a marching band and a tasteful banner identifying the marchers as gay veterans of this or that unit. The students are proud members of the marching band, the vets are proud to have served despite the military's (historical) policies on homosexuality.
 
I'm thirsty and want a beer.

In seriousness, this is how things are supposed to work in a republic (as opposed to an authoritarian government). Solutions are less imposed by law and more emergent from community. Leadership and change are as much the result of civilian participation as political mandate.

Heya MG. :2wave: :lol: Well Lizzie and Josie are the bartenders in the tavern and SMW is the Hostess of Smarties bar and Grille. Stop in and tells them goilz to get ya a beer. ;) :2razz:

Yes and we do see how that influence play out.

On a Side note.....we here in Chicago will make sure the Chicago River will be green. :mrgreen:
 
Why is the fact that they are gay important enough to amrch with banners about it? What are they trying to accomplish with that?

Probably the same thing as identifying what high school you're from or what unit you served with. I imagine that if I risked life and limb on behalf of my country and only recently did my sexuality become something that wouldn't get me discharged, I'd want to celebrate the fact that I was a gay vet.
 
IMHO, conservatism is far from dead.
 
I see no difference between a tasteful banner identifying the origin of a marching band and a tasteful banner identifying the marchers as gay veterans of this or that unit. The students are proud members of the marching band, the vets are proud to have served despite the military's (historical) policies on homosexuality.

Heya TAD.....Did you happen to see either footage from the parades last year?
 
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