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Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

Drag is outlandish. Typical fag behavior; the intent is to shock.

Fag?

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Oh, sweetheart, you're just so precious. Did you step out of the 80s when nobody was looking?
 
I also find it ironic people are up in arms about the policies in NYC and Boston. The holiday is St. Patrick's Day, a catholic holiday. It's religious in nature and will always be.

Plenty of Catholics, especially American Catholics, support same sex rights. "Religion" as a whole isn't at odd with homosexuality. Only some religions and some religious are. There is basically nothing that "religion" as a whole does.

Yes, the parades should be changed to be political so every political party, politician and political group from the KKK to the Tea Party to the Hillsboro Baptist Church, neo-Nazi and militia groups, gun rights activists, and of course Republican, Democrat, Green and Libertarian parties and candidates should be allowed to march in the parade.

Really, children hate fun parades. They want to watch social and political activism.

In short, of course they should not allow political groups to use the parade.

How exactly is opposing the exclusion of gays political, but the excluding in the first place is not political? If you don't want the event to be use to promote an agenda, then it shouldn't have been excluding people in the first place.

Yeah there are banners for schools etc. not banners for activist groups. Big difference. What part of "NO Activism" don't you understand?

The implication being that a group of homosexuals proclaiming what they are is activism. Other groups, meanwhile, aren't condemned to activism by their very existence. That's a pretty messed up double standard.
 
My point was that's is still a St. Patrick's Day parade, not something else.

A parade being thrown by a veteran's group. If anybody has a right to participate it would be veterans, and I see no reason why identifying themselves as gay should cause anybody any problems.
 
I was just asking if you had. Thought it might show some of the others that's in the parade.

I've seen parades. I've seen banners in parades, the sort that are long and rectangular and require 2 people to carry them. I'd be fine with a banner like that identifying a gay vet's group and I can't imagine why such a banner would cause a problem.
 
1.)There are no gun activists, abortion activists, immigrations activist. For or against to be in the parades.
2.)In February, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio announced that he would not be marching in this year's parade in support of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community. Boston Mayor Martin Walsh has vowed not to attend the parade unless LGBT groups are allowed to march openly.
3.)They were told they could march..... but no signage.

1.) i understand this
2.) i knew this also thanks
3.) so you know as much as me, theres no proof of "ACTIVISM" and currently it seems they are being discriminated against and not allowed signage while others are

thanks MMC, ill keep reading other stuff to because currently it seems theres no activism present but i could be wrong if evidence surfaces
 
I thought All these High School marching Bands are into Competitions and get to cross the country to be in some of these parades. When did the LGBT Community have the Right to screw up their portion of the Parade and decide they have the Right to Compete with Kids schools?


Who's competing with them? If a group representing the LGBT Community walks behind a marching band, so what? It's not a race. They're not taking someone else's place. They just want a sign identifying their group like all the other groups marching.
 
During Lent you always give up something for 40 days. Irish historically give up alcohol and have for generations. We are given Papal Dispensation for this day.

First, my understanding is that Lent isn't just about giving something up and that often it's about taking something on. Second, I am pretty sure that you are overgeneralizing about what "the Irish" do...here, Irish-Americans.

Thank you for your explanation, though.
 
Drag is outlandish. Typical fag behavior; the intent is to shock.

So assume for a second that they're not in drag. They just want to march down the street dressed normally carrying one sign that identifies them. They're not bringing out the gay orgy float.
 
So assume for a second that they're not in drag. They just want to march down the street dressed normally carrying one sign that identifies them. They're not bringing out the gay orgy float.
As what?
 
So assume for a second that they're not in drag. They just want to march down the street dressed normally carrying one sign that identifies them. They're not bringing out the gay orgy float.

I'm neither a medical professional nor a temporal physicist, but I think it's probably not a good idea to engage either a relic or a time traveler.
 

As whatever group they are. If they're the gay vets association of Boston, then a simple banner that says "The Gay Vets Association."

Most homosexuals don't dress in drag unless they're in a drag show.
 
Plenty of Catholics, especially American Catholics, support same sex rights. "Religion" as a whole isn't at odd with homosexuality. Only some religions and some religious are. There is basically nothing that "religion" as a whole does.



The implication being that a group of homosexuals proclaiming what they are is activism. Other groups, meanwhile, aren't condemned to activism by their very existence. That's a pretty messed up double standard.

Organizations for gays such as Glenn are activists groups with political ties. A gay carrying a banner for GLENN is against the rules as it would be for a pro life organization carrying their banner or an animal rights group such as PETA or the NRA. This parade is about St Patricks Day not some smorgasbord of activism. All are welcome to be in the parade, they must leave their activism at home. Those are the rules. Too bad Heineken and Sam Adams' public relations can't wrap their little heads around that concept. Oh well, I always thought Heineken was a "skunk" beer. And Sam Adams for the prices they charge, their product is far inferior to what micro breweries are producing all over the country.
 
1.) i understand this
2.) i knew this also thanks
3.) so you know as much as me, theres no proof of "ACTIVISM" and currently it seems they are being discriminated against and not allowed signage while others are

thanks MMC, ill keep reading other stuff to because currently it seems theres no activism present but i could be wrong if evidence surfaces



Heya AJ I have been checking.....I cannot find any others from other activists organizations being in the parade. Not even Peta. No banners.....no signs and no sponsorship for any activists.

Like AC said for many it is a Religious Holiday.....if any groups then it would be the Culture of the Irish.

Myself I am going with keep it that way for all. Keep the Political out of it.
 
As whatever group they are. If they're the gay vets association of Boston, then a simple banner that says "The Gay Vets Association."

Most homosexuals don't dress in drag unless they're in a drag show.
I wouldn't find that objectionable at all, but that isn't what they plan to do.

What is the intention of these groups in this parade? The pic of the drag queen "Panti Bliss" (what an offensive and lewd name) with De Blasio sends a very definite an public message that I find inappropriate and objectionable.

I suppose this was last year's parade:

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This is offensive to families and shouldn't be viewed by children
 
To be fair & inclusive, there really needs to be a group of a-sexuals, bi-sexuals and straights, too. And of course, they'd need banners to declare which team they're on.

Srsly, I think Dallas' St Patrick Day parade has always had lots of gays participating. .. mainly because they like wearing green and white sequined tophats!

It's carrying signs declaring their sexual preference people object to. And with good reason.
 
I wouldn't find that objectionable at all, but that isn't what they plan to do.

How do you know? Did you sneak a listening device into their secret faggy planning sessions?

This is offensive to families and shouldn't be viewed by children

I wholeheartedly agree, your posts and your attitudes most definitely are offensive and shouldn't be viewed by children.
 
It's carrying signs declaring their sexual preference people object to. And with good reason.

What exactly is the good reason for objecting to a group of gay vets carrying a tasteful banner -- much as a high school marching band would carry, identifying what school they're from -- identifying them as gay vets?
 
1.)Heya AJ I have been checking.....I cannot find any others from other activists organizations being in the parade. Not even Peta. No banners.....no signs and no sponsorship for any activists.
2.)Like AC said for many it is a Religious Holiday.....if any groups then it would be the Culture of the Irish.

3.)Myself I am going with keep it that way for all. Keep the Political out of it.



1.) well until we can show that THIS group is an "activist" group you are focusing on the wrong thing.

thats what ive been trying to find, it seems they wanted a banner that said gay veterans group or somethign of that nature. Theres nothign activist about that

2.) this is already meaningless as st patricks day is about as religious as halloween and every other major holiday. They also already said that"

"Let me clear up one misconception. Gays are not banned from this parade. Everyone, whether Irish, Jewish, Hindu or pansexual, is welcome to attend the city’s St. Patrick’s Day Parade, the nation’s largest. The event dates to 1762, when the British still ran this country, New York was more than a century away from acquiring five boroughs, and people still friended each other in person.
All can attend — provided they don’t carry signs identifying themselves as gay."

3.) again im fine with this also. Im fine with keeping activists and politics out of it but can you tell me what is activist or political if the banner simply identifies thier group? if the banner says "gay veterans group"?

now again i admit maybe they wanted OTHER banners and that may have been the issue i simply cant find that info.
 
What exactly is the good reason for objecting to a group of gay vets carrying a tasteful banner -- much as a high school marching band would carry, identifying what school they're from -- identifying them as gay vets?

As long as their sign didnt contain the word GAY, nobody would care.

Rainbow Warriors?

No problem.

Gay Vets?

Problem.

Why is it necessary to advertise sexual preference to be considered a group?
 
To be fair & inclusive, there really needs to be a group of a-sexuals, bi-sexuals and straights, too. And of course, they'd need banners to declare which team they're on.

Srsly, I think Dallas' St Patrick Day parade has always had lots of gays participating. .. mainly because they like wearing green and white sequined tophats!

It's carrying signs declaring their sexual preference people object to. And with good reason.


Heya SMW.
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Did they have activists down in the Dallas Parades with signs?

Myself, I would expect to see a lot of Fire and Police Personnel in the Parades.....at least its that way around here. Be interesting to see like a video of Footage of the Parades in all different parts of the country. As well as to note who is about the Political activism with such events.

Course with the Italians and Sicilians. St Josephs Day is round.....but I didn't hear all this hoopla over that day either.
 
1.) well until we can show that THIS group is an "activist" group you are focusing on the wrong thing.

thats what ive been trying to find, it seems they wanted a banner that said gay veterans group or somethign of that nature. Theres nothign activist about that

2.) this is already meaningless as st patricks day is about as religious as halloween and every other major holiday. They also already said that"

"Let me clear up one misconception. Gays are not banned from this parade. Everyone, whether Irish, Jewish, Hindu or pansexual, is welcome to attend the city’s St. Patrick’s Day Parade, the nation’s largest. The event dates to 1762, when the British still ran this country, New York was more than a century away from acquiring five boroughs, and people still friended each other in person.
All can attend — provided they don’t carry signs identifying themselves as gay."

3.) again im fine with this also. Im fine with keeping activists and politics out of it but can you tell me what is activist or political if the banner simply identifies thier group? if the banner says "gay veterans group"?

now again i admit maybe they wanted OTHER banners and that may have been the issue i simply cant find that info.



The only thing I find is what GLAAD said that Heineken did Right.....doesn't say if they were involved. but I would think it would be the major groups foo Both NY and Boston.

Heineken sent the right message to LGBT youth, customers and employees who simply want to be part of the celebration," Sarah Kate Ellis, president of gay rights group GLAAD, said in a statement.....snip~


That's another thing I have been about is....over the reporting.
 
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