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U.S. to relinquish remaining control over the Internet

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U.S. to relinquish remaining control over the Internet - The Washington Post

By Craig Timberg, Published: March 14

U.S. officials announced plans Friday to relinquish federal government control over the administration of the Internet, a move that pleased international critics but alarmed some business leaders and others who rely on the smooth functioning of the Web.

Pressure to let go of the final vestiges of U.S. authority over the system of Web addresses and domain names that organize the Internet has been building for more than a decade and was supercharged by the backlash last year to revelations about National Security Agency surveillance.

The change would end the long-running contract between the Commerce Department and the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), a California-based nonprofit group. That contract is set to expire next year but could be extended if the transition plan is not complete.

“We look forward to ICANN convening stakeholders across the global Internet community to craft an appropriate transition plan,” Lawrence E. Strickling, assistant secretary of commerce for communications and information, said in a statement.

The announcement received a passionate response, with some groups quickly embracing the change and others blasting it.
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Barack Obama is a ****ing jackass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Deuce said:
Oh my God my computer might connect to a different server when looking up a domain name. This is an outrage.
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I don't think American understands how this internet thing works.
 
I suspect the biggest impact is that nonascii characters may be allowed
 
Wiseone said:
I don't think American understands how this internet thing works.
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Yeah, give up control and trust the other clowns to keep it going.
 
American said:
Yeah, give up control and trust the other clowns to keep it going.
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I guess you aren't aware that the United States, nor any country for that matter, "keeps the internet going." You also aren't aware, despite the fact that you "read" this article I'm sure, is that this group primarily deals with assigning domain names, .com, .gov, .org, etc... The US has an oversight role but the day to day operations are already handled by the group itself.
 

Considering how the US has already damn near infiltrated the entire internet, through the NSA, it really doesn't matter.
 
American said:
Yeah, give up control and trust the other clowns to keep it going.
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I'm not really sure you grasp just how little this matters.
 
American said:
Yeah, give up control and trust the other clowns to keep it going.
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Considering that ICANN has been operating independently of the US government for years, then this is nothing but acknowledging the reality of the situation.

Now had it been creating a new organisation instead of ICANN, then you might have a point, but else it is just another lame ass attempt by you to attack Obama.
 
Wiseone said:
Good God what will we do without our strategic reserve of domain names.
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Yea and remember how the Panamanians filled in the Panama canal? We need to keep the whole world under our thumb.
 
Wiseone said:
I don't think American understands how this internet thing works.
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I blame public education. The Internet is really not that hard to understand, well, from the technology point anyway.
American said:
Yeah, give up control and trust the other clowns to keep it going.
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In other words, the tower of babel will be raised once again?
PeteEU said:
Considering that ICANN has been operating independently of the US government for years, then this is nothing but acknowledging the reality of the situation.

Now had it been creating a new organisation instead of ICANN, then you might have a point, but else it is just another lame ass attempt by you to attack Obama.
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Just as long as registering a new domain name doesn't take any longer than it does now, I really don't see a problem.

When it comes to managing the address space, well, that's a bit more technical, and it would seem that solid foundations have already been laid. If the new organization screws that part up, it could bring world wide access to a Skreetching halt, but then, isn't the majority of traffic in country anyway?
 
It makes sense really... with the diffuse nature of the net in today's world, U.S. control is obsolete. I see this as a positive transition.

There are servers all over the planet now so it's not like the U.S. is the be all and end all of the internet.
 
US Conservative said:
More of that famous liberal strength through weakness.
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What? Are we going to compel the world through our oversight of domain name registration? Maybe we can get Iran to give up the bomb in exchange for an Iranian domain name, something like .ir.

OMG WAIT IT ALREADY EXISTS, and its already administrated in Iran!!! We just gave away our BEST LEVERAGE against these guys!
 
iguanaman said:
Yea and remember how the Panamanians filled in the Panama canal? We need to keep the whole world under our thumb.
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Close. America's former worst president in history, Jimmy Carter, naively gave the Panama Canal back to the Panamanians, who immediately transferred operational rights to the Chinese.
 
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US Conservative said:
More of that famous liberal strength through weakness.
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I got another one.

In your mind strength is having a marginal influence over who gets what kind of domain names on the internet, but having a universal healthcare system that would keep our citizens healthy and productive while costing the government less than what it already spends on healthcare is a weakness?

Are you embarrassed yet?
 
Ray410 said:
Isn't there a required American history test or something? America's former worst president in history, Jimmy Carter, naively gave the Panama Canal back to the Panamanians, who immediately transferred operational rights to the Chinese.
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No they didn't

Panama Canal Authority - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Unless you want to say that China is looking at building another canal through central American despite already controlling the one already there?

Chinese tycoon plans to rival Panama Canal with $40 billion waterway through Nicaragua - Washington Times
 
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eohrnberger said:
When it comes to managing the address space, well, that's a bit more technical, and it would seem that solid foundations have already been laid. If the new organization screws that part up, it could bring world wide access to a Skreetching halt, but then, isn't the majority of traffic in country anyway?
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Actually the problem is not as much as ICANN is situated in the US and "run by" the US, but that it should be fully independent of government, which it now will be. And with the NSA scandal the critical voices over the years have been all but justified so this move is a good thing.

Now must registrations are done locally in national countries, and it is only really .com, .org and those that ICANN deal with these days as far as I understand it. But they do set the rules for domains, like adding .XXX and others lately. The irony here is that the XXX domain was blocked for years by a coalition of countries that included the US and muslim countries... but it is here now.

As for traffic... no it is not local. You would be amazed how much "local" traffic has to pass through servers some where the Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania area.... which is one of the issues lots of people now understand why... :) Try doing a trace route in Europe and see the route go over US IP addresses despite the end station being in Europe. Depends on the service and webpage though.
 
Deuce said:
I'm not really sure you grasp just how little this matters.
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It matters so little that there has been incredible pressure on the US Government to relinquish it's control. For something that matters so little, it's odd that it mattered so much.
 
PeteEU said:
Actually the problem is not as much as ICANN is situated in the US and "run by" the US, but that it should be fully independent of government, which it now will be. And with the NSA scandal the critical voices over the years have been all but justified so this move is a good thing.

Now must registrations are done locally in national countries, and it is only really .com, .org and those that ICANN deal with these days as far as I understand it. But they do set the rules for domains, like adding .XXX and others lately. The irony here is that the XXX domain was blocked for years by a coalition of countries that included the US and muslim countries... but it is here now.

As for traffic... no it is not local. You would be amazed how much "local" traffic has to pass through servers some where the Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania area.... which is one of the issues lots of people now understand why... :) Try doing a trace route in Europe and see the route go over US IP addresses despite the end station being in Europe. Depends on the service and webpage though.
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Not sure of traceroutes from EU locations to EU locations going through Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania area. I didn't think that the expensive and slower long lines across the Atlantic would make that type of traffic routing viable. I made mention of that strictly from the perspective of what makes traffic routing optimization sense. Reality could be different, I'll admit.

My house is on one cable system, and my friend a few doors down is on another. I'm surprised that it has to go from Michigan to Chicago to jump across and get to the other house, but wherever the first bridge between the two is geographically located I guess.
 
RiverDad said:
It matters so little that there has been incredible pressure on the US Government to relinquish it's control. For something that matters so little, it's odd that it mattered so much.
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It means very little in the technical sense and a great deal in the political sense. Politics should never be the deciding factor on a technical question.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
It means very little in the technical sense and a great deal in the political sense. Politics should never be the deciding factor on a technical question.
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But this wasn't a battle which hinged on a technical issue, it was a political battle, so why is everyone mocking the political concerns by pointing to technical issues? Why, it's almost like the mockers don't understand the political issue in play whereas those who were complaining so much knew that they were playing a political game and that their complaints weren't mere technical minutia.
 
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